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100 Greatest Premier League Players

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭ScummyMan


    Course not, he's not even top 3 at United. Like Roy Keane said, a great career doesn't mean a great player.

    Paul Scholes for me, although its a toss of a coin between him and Henry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,064 ✭✭✭✭eh i dunno


    Bergkamp, Shearer, Ronaldo Henry all ahead of Giggs for me


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    In terms of pure talent it has to be Ronaldo.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    Ronaldo is the greatest player to ever play for an English club. There's definitely no argument for the Premier League era.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,984 ✭✭✭Soups123


    Ronaldo is the greatest player to ever play for an English club. There's definitely no argument for the Premier League era.

    Henry was better for me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,507 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Giggs wasn't even United's best player in the same era. Ronaldo, Scholes, Keane, Cantona and even RVP were more influential in title-winning seasons. Says it all that when he retired there was very little fanfare about Januzaj "inheriting" his 11 jersey (compared to the aura of number 7).

    Ronaldo, Henry, Scholes, Keane off the top of my head ahead of him as GOAT. Too subjective though to form a definitive answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    I think the OP means greatest performing player in the premier league rather than the greatest player to have played in it at some stage

    The latter is without a doubt Ronaldo, the former could be argued all day but I don't think it's Giggs tbh

    Thought we had this thread earlier in the year too


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,984 ✭✭✭Soups123


    I think the OP means greatest performing player in the premier league rather than the greatest player to have played in it at some stage

    The latter is without a doubt Ronaldo, the former could be argued all day but I don't think it's Giggs tbh

    Thought we had this thread earlier in the year too

    What makes you think performer? Says greatest player

    There's no absolute answers in these debates. I'd have Keane Veira Henry and Scholes all ahead of Ronaldo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,284 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    I wish they broke these down into positions.
    For me:

    GK: Schmiechel
    D: Terry
    M: Keane
    AM/F/S: Ronaldo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,284 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    Do you know what else would be interesting: pick your starting 11 from the 100 people. Lets stick to the same formation. Thoughts on formation?

    4-4-2
    4-3-3
    4-2-3-1
    etc????


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    Soups123 wrote: »
    There's no absolute answers in these debates. I'd have Keane Veira Henry and Scholes all ahead of Ronaldo

    And you would be very wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,064 ✭✭✭✭eh i dunno


    Do you know what else would be interesting: pick your starting 11 from the 100 people. Lets stick to the same formation. Thoughts on formation?

    4-4-2
    4-3-3
    4-2-3-1
    etc????

    442 is probably the best or 343


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,284 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    eh i dunno wrote: »
    442 is probably the best or 343

    4-4-2 I reckon. Most popular formation for the premier league era. Gimme a minute....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    Soups123 wrote: »
    What makes you think performer? Says greatest player

    There's no absolute answers in these debates. I'd have Keane Veira Henry and Scholes all ahead of Ronaldo

    I'm not sure if you're confusing what I'm saying or if you actually think that

    Based on their time in the premier league alone I'd have Viera, Henry, Scholes and Keane ahead of Ronaldo but you'd have to be completely bat shít crazy to actually think they are/were better players


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,984 ✭✭✭Soups123


    And you would be very wrong.

    Not in my opinion, Ronaldo definitely went on to be better than all but for just his time in the premier league I think the others did more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,284 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    Schmiechel

    Neville Rio Terry Cole

    Pires Keane Scholes Bale

    Ronaldo Henry


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,984 ✭✭✭Soups123


    I'm not sure if you're confusing what I'm saying or if you actually think that

    Based on their time in the premier league alone I'd have Viera, Henry, Scholes and Keane ahead of Ronaldo but you'd have to be completely bat shít crazy to actually think they are/were better players

    Yeah I'm all over the shop that's what I meant


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    If it's 'greatest' and not necessarily the best, then i think his extra marital antics put him out of the running .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    In terms of goal scoring and performance he was a great player but he's not best.
    Schmeichael- keeper
    Dennis Irwin or vidic -defender
    Keane, Scholes, Ronaldo -midfield
    Cantona, Rooney
    That'd be my united best anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    I didn't have time to go through the list, but where does Jon Obi Mikel appear ?

    at least top 10 for sure ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Lampard, Gerrard, Vieira and Bergkamp behind Shearer is laughable. Don't think you could argue with Giggs at number one but I'd have Bergkamp just after him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,984 ✭✭✭Soups123


    Lampard, Gerrard, Vieira and Bergkamp behind Shearer is laughable.

    Ah Shearer was great, can't stand him but he was a goal machine. Hard to know were you'd place him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,928 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Giggs is only number 1 because of longevity having played more seasons than any other player.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    Soups123 wrote: »
    Not in my opinion, Ronaldo definitely went on to be better than all but for just his time in the premier league I think the others did more

    That's not what you said :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    If it's 'greatest' and not necessarily the best, then i think his extra marital antics put him out of the running .

    I'm pretty sure it's footballing greatness they are looking for here. Why on earth would you judge a player on his personal life?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    I'm pretty sure it's footballing greatness they are looking for here. Why on earth would you judge a player on his personal life?

    Footballing greatness? Okay, he's probably barely inside the top 20.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    Footballing greatness? Okay, he's probably barely inside the top 20.

    That's all you had to say the first time...


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    Cantona top 10. Lol.

    Henry number 1 for me I think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    That's all you had to say the first time...

    It's obviously about more than just his ability on the pitch if he came first. Don't you think?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    It's obviously about more than just his ability on the pitch if he came first. Don't you think?

    Yeah, his longevity on the pitch would be the biggest factor.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    Yeah, his longevity on the pitch would be the biggest factor.

    ZZZZZzzzzzzzz

    What a boring fukcing criteria, come on .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    ZZZZZzzzzzzzz

    What a boring fukcing criteria, come on .

    Oh sorry, maybe we should petition for other criteria to be considered next time.
    Best hair? Coolest pet? Fastest car? What would make it more exciting for you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,380 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Cantona top 10. Lol.

    Henry number 1 for me I think.

    Yeah all he did was win the league every season he was at United and could play. That's not even counting that he won it his last year with Leeds too. Was top United scorer most if not all those 4 OUT OF 5 SEASONS they WON THE LEAGUE too. LOL am I right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    Liam O wrote: »
    Yeah all he did was win the league every season he was at United and could play. That's not even counting that he won it his last year with Leeds too. Was top United scorer most if not all those 4 OUT OF 5 SEASONS they WON THE LEAGUE too. LOL am I right?

    I wouldn't bother man...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    Zola was pure class imo, he'd definitely be in my top 5


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,984 ✭✭✭Soups123


    That's not what you said :confused:

    Yeah confused myself with how I said it but got there in the end


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    Liam O wrote: »
    Yeah all he did was win the league every season he was at United and could play. That's not even counting that he won it his last year with Leeds too. Was top United scorer most if not all those 4 OUT OF 5 SEASONS they WON THE LEAGUE too. LOL am I right?

    :confused:

    Does winning the league automatically get you to top 10?

    Cantona is/was incredibly overrated


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,868 ✭✭✭Andersonisgod


    I got 27 pages in but had to stop. Ricardo Carvalho at 75? The best damn defender to grace England in the last couple of decades, arguably the best center back in Europe of his generation is only 75th. Petr Cech at 62? Yaya Toure not high enough either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,342 ✭✭✭Bobby Baccala


    rarnes1 wrote: »

    Cantona is/was incredibly overrated

    Couldnt agree more.

    Henry no 1 for me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    Lol @ Ricardo Carvalho even being in the bloody list if I'm honest.

    Henry should be #1, nobody has been so dominant in the league as he was all those years. Ronaldo may have gone on to do better things overall after he left United, but strictly speaking in England he cannot compete with Henry


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,797 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    People having a pop at Shearer is laughable. I don't like him at all, but he's got 260 Premier League goals. Rooney has played his entire career in the Premier League and it's not certain whether he will even surpass that record.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,868 ✭✭✭Andersonisgod


    Lol @ Ricardo Carvalho even being in the bloody list if I'm honest.

    Henry should be #1, nobody has been so dominant in the league as he was all those years. Ronaldo may have gone on to do better things overall after he left United, but strictly speaking in England he cannot compete with Henry

    I'm sorry...what? 3 Premier League titles, at the heart of a formidable Chelsea defence. For my money, the most underrated player to play in the Premier League, never gets the credit he deserves in lists like these.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,380 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    :confused:

    Does winning the league automatically get you to top 10?

    Cantona is/was incredibly overrated

    Just because a few lads on boards believe it doesn't make it true. He has a lot more going for him than the likes of Gerrard for instance. I suppose being in the top 3 players in the world (unless Balon d'Or voting suddenly has a problem with it, which I wouldn't put past people on here) in one of those seasons where English teams weren't doing well in Europe is something undeserved too?

    Actually on your original criticism, winning the league doesn't automatically get you into the top 10. LEADING your team to it for basically every season you played probably does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,064 ✭✭✭✭eh i dunno


    Shearer for me. He was a machine and could score every type of goal. If he was playing now he'd be worth 100m


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    Shearer is definitely up there

    Had Rooney played his whole career as a main striker he probably would have bettered Henry's goal ratio, he isn't too far off to be fair

    On the back of that it's funny that so many would put Henry number 1 yet the usual suspects would probably "lol" at putting Rooney in the top 10 despite this


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    Henry or shearer for me. Ronaldo obviously the best player to have played in the PL due to his last couple of seasons at Utd and what he has done since.


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    Liam O wrote: »
    Just because a few lads on boards believe it doesn't make it true. He has a lot more going for him than the likes of Gerrard for instance. I suppose being in the top 3 players in the world (unless Balon d'Or voting suddenly has a problem with it, which I wouldn't put past people on here) in one of those seasons where English teams weren't doing well in Europe is something undeserved too?

    Actually on your original criticism, winning the league doesn't automatically get you into the top 10. LEADING your team to it for basically every season you played probably does.


    Strange comparison. I think Cech was better than Cantona too :confused: The rest of the paragraph is an incredible ramble.

    He was a failure on the big stage tbf.

    I don't see why you are getting so defensive. It's only opinions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Muff_Daddy


    Yaya Toure not high enough either.

    Yaya Toure is 19th isn't he? Think that's very very generous myself.

    Giggs wouldn't be my choice for number one, but I can see why people would put him there. 20 years of being a key player in title winning/contending teams is nothing short of phenominal. His bedhopping is irrelevant in the discussion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    I'd have David Silva ahead of Yaya every day of the week personally


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    The Cantona bashing is hilarious too

    Either they are too young to remember him lead United to 4 league titles in his 5 seasons, top goalscorer in 3 of those, or they are just deluded

    The double winning goal was one of my favourites



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