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The 11 "beautiful" girls on The Saturday Night Show Last Night.

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  • 19-10-2014 5:17pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    So what did you think lads, were they stunners or what??

    To anyone who didn't see the show it was 11 girls from a new plus size models agency and the girl who runs the agency was talking to Brendan. The also did a nude un-airbrushed photo to show off all their natural beauty.

    Well as a male I have to say, I didn't think much of them at all. The photo reminded me of the magicians lead by Gob in Arrested Development when they had the "We demand to be taken seriously" photo. They might as well have had a sign saying "we demand to be called beautiful". The fact is they were very overweight girls who in my opinion are fooling themselves by going around calling themselves models.

    They harped on about natural beauty but at the same time they were caked in make up.

    Now, I do agree with their message about body shaming but there are two extremes and the have gone the opposite way.

    The main girl was talking about food addiction and how her personal vice was chocolate, but at one point she weighed 24 stone, how much bloody chocolate was she eating. I feel that these girls were trying to celebrate an unhealthy lifestyle and force us to find them attractive when they are not.

    The main girl also admitted to having gastric band surgery to lose the bulk of her weight which I think is a terrible unhealthy way to lose weight. She didn't say anything about exercise or proper diet.

    So what did you guys thing, beautiful or delusional? Am I being too hard on them?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Beauty and health are two different things. Being overweight is not healthy but they weren't saying it was were they? You can be overweight and still attractive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,222 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Didn't watch it.







    Hope that helps.


  • Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭kingchess


    any photo??


  • Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭Its Only Ray Parlour




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Beauty and health are two different things. Being overweight is not healthy but they weren't saying it was were they? You can be overweight and still attractive.

    I don't know if I agree with you. most of these women were obese not just overweight.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    While there shouldnt be any pressure for people to look like what others see as ideal, if you are considered medically overweight then you have a problem that needs to be looked it. You can be happy with how things are but if their is something that is damaging I dont see why it should be seen as ok. You can hurt your leg and not have it looked at but it doesnt mean your leg is just different and nothing is wrong with it.

    I have often seen it turning around, if you are skinny there is something wrong with you and the crap about "real men like curves" you see on facebook.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭hfallada


    I find it weird for people to critique smokers for their unhealthy life style choice. But smoking is highly addictive and most smokers acknowledge that is an addiction that will probably kill them. But if you say something about someones weight, you are immediately cruel and inconsiderate. As he/she has a thyroid issue etc. All of which is generally BS. Anyone I know who is overweight has an extremely poor diet and doesnt exercise. Which is due to them

    Its ridiculous how in Ireland and most countries how we never talk about the obesity problem. Which costs the tax payer money in medical bills. We have no problem talking about how bad smoking is. But you never see anyone in the Government talking about how fat Ireland is


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    kjl wrote: »
    I don't know if I agree with you. most of these women were obese not just overweight.

    I'm not saying they aren't but what has that got to do with beauty?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    Didn't watch.

    From the photo they look OK - I probably would (though that's hardly a rec)

    Good Luck with the thread.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    eviltwin wrote: »
    I'm not saying they aren't but what has that got to do with beauty?

    Unless you have some sort of fetish you are not going to think an obese person is beautiful. I am guessing you are female, do you think this guy is beautiful?

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/02/article-2532756-1A62F52700000578-114_634x522.jpg


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    A girl that lives near me was one of the original V plus models, then she started dieting and no shes not V plus it seems


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    While there shouldnt be any pressure for people to look like what others see as ideal, if you are considered medically overweight then you have a problem that needs to be looked it. You can be happy with how things are but if their is something that is damaging I dont see why it should be seen as ok. You can hurt your leg and not have it looked at but it doesnt mean your leg is just different and nothing is wrong with it.

    I have often seen it turning around, if you are skinny there is something wrong with you and the crap about "real men like curves" you see on facebook.

    Its fine if you are telling someone they need to lose weight for health reasons but I suppose the slant here is that all too often people esp women are told they need to lose weight because they don't look right. I imagine in the fashion world its a lot worse than it is for the rest of us. Models aren't told to lose weight because their bosses are concerned with their wellbeing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Attractiveness and what your attracted to is one of the most subjective things in the world. So, bit redundant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    so much fake tan in that picture, they all fail


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Iranoutofideas


    Another attempt at Fat Normalisation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    kjl wrote: »
    Unless you have some sort of fetish you are not going to think an obese person is beautiful. I am guessing you are female, do you think this guy is beautiful?

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/02/article-2532756-1A62F52700000578-114_634x522.jpg


    No I don't but my other half is overweight and I still think he's a big ride. He was big when I met him and it didn't put me off. Everyone has a different idea of what is beautiful. Personally I've never seen the attraction for the likes of Clooney or Pitt but each to his own.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 113 ✭✭BrokenHero


    If they made an all girl porn flick, I'd watch.

    Does that answer the question?

    Tbf though, I'd most likely still watch an all female porn flick even if it only starred Moore St market traders.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,951 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    kjl wrote: »
    The fact is they were very overweight girls who in my opinion are fooling themselves by going around calling themselves models.

    They're going around calling themselves models because they are getting work model clothing or promoting products. The truth is they represent a large portion of the female population and that's a market that's largely ignored and not appealed to up until now.
    Now if they get no work they'd be idiots to be calling themselves models but if they are getting it they're every entitlement to call themselves models.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 978 ✭✭✭Fudge You




  • Registered Users Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Haven't seen it, so can't comment on the girls. Some poster have pointed out too much makeup and fake tan, so I doubt I would have found them too attractive.
    But then I don't really find normal weight attractive, no matter what the media are trying to sell. To me, hot needs substance.

    Each to their own, though.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    "I'm not into body shaming but....."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Another attempt at trying to normalise obesity, calling yourself "real" or "curvy" does not justify being overweight or in some cases obese.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Macavity.


    Eventually, a person needs to accept that they may not be what's considered universally attractive, and that's perfectly fine and certainly doesn't mean they will end up alone. The thing is, we need to send a message that says - it's okay not to look exactly like what the media portrays as the perfect person, and avoid messages that imply it's okay to be unhealthy (which is what a lot of these campaigns do IMO).


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,163 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    wazky wrote: »
    Another attempt at trying to normalise obesity, calling yourself "real" or "curvy" does not justify being overweight or in some cases obese.

    Why should they justify themselves to you?


  • Registered Users Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Vomit


    Ugh..being fat is the 'in' thing right now. The whole fat acceptance movement is BS, and usually involved dissing 'thin' people..or 'skinny bitches' as one well known fat cow rising star calls them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Beefy78 wrote: »
    Why should they justify themselves to you?

    Not just to me, but to themselves and the nation really, it's not healthy to be overweight, simple as that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,163 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    Lots of things aren't healthy. Their health is none of your business,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Tarzana


    hfallada wrote: »
    I find it weird for people to critique smokers for their unhealthy life style choice. But smoking is highly addictive and most smokers acknowledge that is an addiction that will probably kill them. But if you say something about someones weight, you are immediately cruel and inconsiderate.

    How often do you actually hear people "critique smokers" head-on though? Be honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭TheBeardedLady


    Vomit wrote: »
    Ugh..being fat is the 'in' thing right now. The whole fat acceptance movement is BS, and usually involved dissing 'thin' people..or 'skinny bitches' as one well known fat cow rising star calls them

    It's fashionable to be fat? Get away outta da'!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Tarzana


    kjl wrote: »
    Unless you have some sort of fetish you are not going to think an obese person is beautiful. I am guessing you are female, do you think this guy is beautiful?

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/02/article-2532756-1A62F52700000578-114_634x522.jpg

    None of the women in the photo above are anywhere near that level, as you well know. ;)


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