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Man shot dead inside Canadian parliament

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Wonder when something like this will happen here ?



    As I think it's only a matter of time when.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    I wonder how many people get murdered in the US ever day?

    Point: This is a non story.

    The dead soldiers family and those that were terrified by the events might disagree with you there. Crass post.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    realies wrote: »
    Wonder when something like this will happen here ?

    As I think it's only a matter of time when.

    Ireland isn't engaged in any wars in the middle east so I'd say it's unlikely.
    Then again, who knows


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    The dead soldiers family and those that were terrified by the events might disagree with you there. Crass post.

    Did you think I meant to offend the dead soldier's family? Of course I didn't.

    One person dying in albeit rare circumstances in a foreign parliament is not worthy of the media coverage it has received on this side of the pond. Does anyone know why the media might be going heavy on this story?


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    Gintonious wrote: »
    There is even a heightened police presence here in Vancouver.


    The dildo of a RCMP spokesman, Martine Fontaine, had this to say:

    "We encourage people to remain vigilant and suspicious"

    And they pay people like this?

    Welcome to the United States of Being Terrified off Your Ass, Canada.

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    realies wrote: »
    Wonder when something like this will happen here ?



    As I think it's only a matter of time when.

    Murders happen here on frequent occasions, sometimes in front of schools.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Gintonious wrote: »
    The fact that its an unprovoked attack on an innocent solider might make it a story.

    What an incredibly vile thing to say.

    Unprovoked attacks/murders happen every single day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    Did you think I meant to offend the dead soldier's family? Of course I didn't.

    One person dying in albeit rare circumstances in a foreign parliament is not worthy of the media coverage it has received on this side of the pond. Does anyone think why the media might be going heavy on this story?

    The possible motive behind the attack makes the story very relevant across the Atlantic IMO. If it is motivated by Islamism as is expected, the UK or France could be next if security is not increased.


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭liz lemoncello


    Murders happen here on frequent occasions, sometimes in front of schools.

    Well, this type of has never happened in Canada before. If, indeed, you think there is nothing to see here, then, please, feel free to move along.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    ...up until now.


    Yep....arm everyone now.

    How's that program to have janitors pack Glocks as they mop the floors in the wake of Columbine, Sandy Hook, Georgia Tech, <enter nutcase scene here> ?

    Just need some clown take a few shots at the ducks in the park and then you'll be wanting Bearcats and drones hovering over the sandbox at the petting zoo.

    So glad I live in the free world....where sanity prevails.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Jamsiek wrote: »
    The possible motive behind the attack makes the story very relevant across the Atlantic IMO. If it is motivated by Islamism as is expected, the UK or France could be next if security is not increased.

    Motivated by Islamism?

    What an ignorant comment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Well, this type of has never happened in Canada before. If, indeed, you think there is nothing to see here, then, please, feel free to move along.

    Debating the media coverage is relevant. I am stunned at the extent of the coverage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭Squeedily Spooch


    Did you think I meant to offend the dead soldier's family? Of course I didn't.

    One person dying in albeit rare circumstances in a foreign parliament is not worthy of the media coverage it has received on this side of the pond. Does anyone know why the media might be going heavy on this story?

    Just to annoy you enough to post rubbish for fake internet points.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    Motivated by Islamism?

    What an ignorant comment.

    Islamism and Islam are 2 entirely different things FYI
    Don't try to twist my words


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,951 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Unprovoked attacks/murders happen every single day.

    And in this fashion as well? Through government buildings?

    The position you are trying to defend here is futile, at least realize your original comment on this was idiotic, and possibly learn from that.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder



    What an ignorant comment.

    Bit rich, considering your post minutes earlier.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Murders happen here on frequent occasions, sometimes in front of schools.

    Haven't heard of anyone shot dead inside the dail (yet), haven't heard of any Irish military personnel being shot dead either here, For you to be thinking and saying that this just another : murder: is either you being totally ignorant of the bigger picture or you being just obtuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Gintonious wrote: »
    And in this fashion as well? Through government buildings?

    The position you are trying to defend here is futile, at least realize your original comment on this was idiotic, and possibly learn from that.

    The extent of the media coverage on this side of the Atlantic is excessive for a murder. The media pray on fear and seek to hike up the threat of ISIS while ignoring the tens of thousands killed by US bombs in the last 15 years.

    Most of the mass shooters actually turn out to be mentally ill.

    I wish people would see the wider point, rather than reacting to one single event that gets the headlines because it happened in a Western country and most likely to be a white person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Jamsiek wrote: »
    Islamism and Islam are 2 entirely different things FYI
    Don't try to twist my words

    What is Islamism? In the context in which you wrote it, it is completely ignorant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    The extent of the media coverage on this side of the Atlantic is excessive for a murder. The media pray on fear and seek to hike up the threat of ISIS while ignoring the tens of thousands killed by US bombs in the last 15 years.

    Most of the mass shooters actually turn out to be mentally ill.

    I wish people would see the wider point, rather than reacting to one single event that gets the headlines because it happened in a Western country and most likely to a white person.


    Are you mental? You're post is such a hodgepodge of crazy, I don't know where to start with it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    fedor.2. wrote: »
    Are you mental? You're post is such a hodgepodge of crazy, I don't know where to start with it

    Start away. Asking someone are you mental is just a way of not being able to debate, so resort to name calling.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    What is Islamism? In the context in which you wrote it, it is completely ignorant.

    Militant Islamism then, maybe I should have included that first word to point it out to you.

    2 soldiers were attacked already this week near Montreal and one was killed, the killer was a radicalized convert to Islam.

    That's 2 dead soldiers in 2 attacks on home soil in less than a week.
    More than a "non-story" that's for sure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Jamsiek wrote: »
    Militant Islamism then, maybe I should have included that first word to point it out to you.

    2 soldiers were attacked already this week near Montreal and one was killed, the killer was a radicalized convert to Islam.

    That's 2 dead soldiers in 2 attacks on home soil in less than a week.
    More than a "non-story" that's for sure

    What is militant Islamism?

    Is there militant Protestants? Militant Catholics?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    The extent of the media coverage on this side of the Atlantic is excessive for a murder. The media pray on fear and seek to hike up the threat of ISIS while ignoring the tens of thousands killed by US bombs in the last 15 years.

    Most of the mass shooters actually turn out to be mentally ill.

    I wish people would see the wider point, rather than reacting to one single event that gets the headlines because it happened in a Western country and most likely to be a white person.

    They tried to shoot up the Canadian Parliament.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    What is militant Islamism?

    Is there militant Protestants? Militant Catholics?

    What would you call IS then?
    Are they not militant Islamists?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    What is militant Islamism?

    Is there militant Protestants? Militant Catholics?

    You started of here saying this was a non story, but really you just want to start some sort of debate on Islam and how why people might be jumping to conclusions in connecting the murders/killings to militant Islam ?

    You still think this is a non story ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Jamsiek wrote: »
    What would you call IS then?
    Are they not militant Islamists?

    You are the one that used the term. It's up to you explain what you meant. No one has any idea what you meant by motivated by Islamism. Have you been watching too much Fox?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    realies wrote: »
    You started of here saying this was a non story, but really you just want to start some sort of debate on Islam and how why people might be jumping to conclusions in connecting the murders/killings to militant Islam ?

    You still think this is a non story ?

    No, I'm reacting to a comment that today's murder was "motivated by Islamism".

    Totally ignorant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    No, I'm reacting to a comment that today's murder was "motivated by Islamism".

    Totally ignorant.

    The shooter was a Muslim convert. Join the dots.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    You are the one that used the term. It's up to you explain what you meant. No one has any idea what you meant by motivated by Islamism. Have you been watching too much Fox?

    You are the only one that seems to have no idea.
    Nobody here agrees with you.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    No, I'm reacting to a comment that today's murder was "motivated by Islamism".

    Totally ignorant.


    You don't know the name of the suspect in this shooting, by any chance?


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Time to start eating the goo yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Nodin wrote: »
    They tried to shoot up the Canadian Parliament.

    It's "they" now?

    One shooter reported.


    Bet most people here had no idea what the Canadian capital was, let alone about the parliament.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    It's "they" now?

    One shooter reported.


    Bet most people here had no idea what the Canadian capital was, let alone about the parliament.

    Ah your just being silly now, can't help it I suppose


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Jamsiek wrote: »
    You are the only one that seems to have no idea.
    Nobody here agrees with you.

    Pointless.

    Unable to back up your points. Pointless.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    Pointless.

    Unable to back up your points. Pointless.

    Do you understand why nobody agrees with you?
    It should be obvious


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Finally someone snapped and started killing politicians.

    There won't be much of an outcry over this one.

    Take note, TDs.

    rather pathetic post even by AH standards


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    It's "they" now?

    One shooter reported.


    Bet most people here had no idea what the Canadian capital was, let alone about the parliament.


    What is the precise nature of your problem? It really is hard to see what you're complaining about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Nodin wrote: »
    What is the precise nature of your problem? It really is hard to see what you're complaining about?

    Reread my posts.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    Reread my posts.

    We will, if you give us the encryption key


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Jamsiek wrote: »
    Do you understand why nobody agrees with you?
    It should be obvious

    You are unable to back up your points. So there's an issue with them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Nodin wrote: »
    What is the precise nature of your problem? It really is hard to see what you're complaining about?

    The problem for senior hotmail is that he can't see the Forrest because of the trees.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    ...up until now.

    With that logic, everybody should be armed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    To be honest, you wouldn't expect this sort of thing in Canada


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    You are unable to back up your points. So there's an issue with them.

    Not obvious to you it seems


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Nodin wrote: »
    What is the precise nature of your problem? It really is hard to see what you're complaining about?

    In a nut shell, the media's reaction to these types of events, the fear it subsequently causes and the extreme contrast to the treatment of the killing of people by US and British forces in the Middle East which numbers into the hundreds of thousands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Reread my posts.

    I get what you are saying (I think) in relation to media covering of mass shooting- especially surrounding High Schools. Experts agree that there should be minimal coverage, and that coverage focusing on the victims not the killer..

    ..but surely you understand a shooting in a parliament building is a massive deal and deserves attention


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    In a nut shell, the media's reaction to these types of events, the fear it subsequently causes and the extreme contrast to the treatment of the killing of people by US and British forces in the Middle East which numbers into the hundreds of thousands.

    So you still think it's a non story ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    wprathead wrote: »
    I get what you are saying (I think) in relation to media covering of mass shooting- especially surrounding High Schools. Experts agree that there should be minimal coverage, and that coverage focusing on the victims not the killer..

    ..but surely you understand a shooting in a parliament building is a massive deal and deserves attention

    Attention yes, but not the attention it's receiving on the broadcast news programmes and news websites. I don't believe it is worthy of being the top story for example.

    I generally think the coverage of American mass shootings on this side of the Atlantic is ridiculous.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    Attention yes, but not the attention it's receiving on the broadcast news programmes and news websites. I don't believe it is worthy of being the top story for example.

    I generally think the coverage of American mass shootings on this side of the Atlantic is ridiculous.


    Canada


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