New low for the Gardai? Video claims Woman refused to leave estate with sick child

sjb25

sjb25 wrote: »

I heard the microwaves from the water meters made the engine pack up on the taxi lol

Was that a joke?

Celly Smunt

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So you think it's ok they were denied access to get through by the Gardai

Proof they drove over a green area in a taxi or it didn't happen.


I put my money on it didn't happen.

wicklowstevo

funny how the sick child going to hospital is always used as an excuse for people caught with no insurance too.

i wonder if the child ever got to the hospital ?

or was it a poor exploitative excuse in an bad and pathetic attempt to cause outrage where there is none ?

on a slightly separate issue this thread and ah in general is so full of semi retarded self righteous ill informed people who think they know the law and how it apply s it really makes me worry for the irish peoples future.

if your dont know the shut the fcuk up , dont make it p and assume by shouting loudly that your ll going to get your way
you ve already got enough crooks in the dail doing that

dinneenp

dinneenp wrote: »

What's the point in engaging in conversation with someone who is asking a rhetorical question? they're hardly going to have a deep debate about it...

How do you know?

Wouldn't hurt to ask

Celly Smunt

Celly Smunt wrote: »

Proof they drove over a green area in a taxi or it didn't happen.


I put my money on it didn't happen.

I never claimed they drove over a green area

wicklowstevo

Deleted User wrote: »

Was that a joke?

a case in point , what the fcuk happend ireland ??

conorh91

Deleted User wrote: »

So you think it's ok they were denied access to get through by the Gardai

Do you seriously think Gardaí have any intention of ignoring a child at risk?

I am so tired of these ridiculous stunts. It's getting to the stage where reasonable people are finding it difficult to be in any way sympathetic to these protestors.

In theory, I appreciate the financial constraints that these people say they are under.

But antagonizing, pestering and maligning the Gardaí with their nonsense does their cause no favors. the fact that they are using an innocent child for their propaganda doesn't help either. Stunts like this deprive the protestors of the support of ordinary taxpayers.

suicide_circus

Did the child survive?

Celly Smunt

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I never claimed they drove over a green area

The description does, surely it would've been a golden moment for the protestors to film a car being forced onto a green way.

They clearly got let through or it was nothing but a big staged exercise.

sjb25

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So you think it's ok they were denied access to get through by the Gardai

Not really no but..... We don't no if that's what happend just believing what is wrote on that page as the video stopped to early to make a judgement...... But if that did happen they should have been allowed out but as was said they got out didn't they!! If it was that serious why was an ambulance not called instead of wasting time fighting with a gaurd about it

Simonigs1.0

If your child so sick and its such an emergency, ring an ambulance ffs.

But yeah, like every other anti-Garda video, there is more to it and everyone in it is a colossal twat of the highest order.

Smidge

So wait. ....
The guards have blocked access to an entire road where people live and go about their daily business, work etc, not mention it appears to be an access route and people on here are still yaking away about "scumbag protesters"
Seems a lot of you good folk have very selective and short memories.
You used the above tactics which Ags are engaged in the video as " the actions of scumbags" when the protesters were doing the same. :rolleyes:

Don't Chute!

Deleted User wrote: »

I wonder would some people be singing a different tune If the story was

Gerry Adams refuses sick child access to pass to go to hospital

Gerry Adams? You mean that c_nt who tries to stop women who have been raped from going to the police? Give me a ****ing break.

Celly Smunt

suicide_circus wrote: »

Did the child survive?

I heard it drowned and then the gardai forced the family into the sea and made them pay for the water they drowned in.And then the gardai attacked an elderly handicapped black child for nothing.

Fr. Ned

Deleted User wrote: »

Personally if I had a sick child I wouldn't stop for any person who stood blocking the road on purpose.

Gardai relations must be at an all time low.

To be fair, the Gardai have been put in an impossible position by FG and 'labour'.
Any anger should be firmly directed at their doors.
I'd suggest emailing your local FG/'labour' TD's in protest at the super quango and about how they are allowing, indeed causing, community relations between Gardai and people break down.
DISGUSTING.

hardCopy

Bongalongherb wrote: »

You are missing my point. There is no accident there, there wasn't a reported accident there. If there was a legit danger to public health and safety then folk would not be allowed near the problem situation. This isn't the case here.

Pretty sure this falls under the Public Order Act of 1994. Anyone breaching the peace or looking like they might breach the peace can be ordered to leave the vicinity. Failure to comply is an offence.

sjb25

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Was that a joke?

Yes a water meter is not going to stop a car obviously lol

conorh91

Smidge wrote: »

You used the above tactics which Ags are engaged in the video as " the actions of scumbags" when the protesters were doing the same. :rolleyes:

AGS maintain law and order with the consent of the public; they have a statutory mandate that is required in any democratic, liberal, peaceful society.

A mob doesn't.

sjb25

Smidge wrote: »

So wait. ....
The guards have blocked access to an entire road where people live and go about their daily business, work etc, not mention it appears to be an access route and people on here are still yaking away about "scumbag protesters"
Seems a lot of you good folk have very selective and short memories.
You used the above tactics which Ags are engaged in the video as " the actions of scumbags" when the protesters were doing the same. :rolleyes:

Garda can block roads legally protesters cannot!

Johngoose

Fupping scumbags the people living in that estate.Off all day with fup all to do,only abuse guards.

Smidge

conorh91 wrote: »

AGS maintain law and order with the consent of the public; they have a statutory mandate that is required in any democratic, liberal, peaceful society.

A mob doesn't.

Ah good to know.
So when there are REAL breaches of law and order in these areas, I'm sure we'll see the same garda presence and display of law enforcement?
Or do Ags like to just take on nanny's and grandads and a few mouthy protesters?
Do me a favour:rolleyes:

Kermit.de.frog

Fr. Ned wrote: »

community relations between Gardai and people break down.
DISGUSTING.

Eh no. Let's be clear here. The people protesting in these estates are by and large unwanted troublemakers and local scumbags who the vast majority want no where near their houses and are very happy with the garda presence.

The only breakdown is between this mob of crackpots and the gardai. No one else.

veetwin

What do all these socialist heros do for a living? They must have fantastic jobs that allow them to hang around all day with either an iPhone in their hands or else playing pocket tennis while abusing actual working people..

Bongalongherb

hardCopy wrote: »

Pretty sure this falls under the Public Order Act of 1994. Anyone breaching the peace or looking like they might breach the peace can be ordered to leave the vicinity. Failure to comply is an offence.

Jezz, we already know this. You are talking about protesters, while I was talking about the freedom of passage of a non-protestor with a sick child trying to leave the area to seek medical attention. How many times do I have to explain this.

This has been completely blown out of proportion.

Fr. Ned

black and amber wrote: »

Gerry Adams? You mean that c_nt who tries to stop women who have been raped from going to the police? Give me a ****ing break.

Caught up in the media hype there I see.
Why does boards.ie allow every thread to be turned into one about about Gerry Adams??

conorh91

Smidge wrote: »

So when there are REAL breaches of law and order in these areas, I'm sure we'll see the same garda presence and display of law enforcement?

Yeah. If there were an angry mob which was alleged to pose a threat to public order or any person, I am sure the Gardaí would be present, regardless.

Of course, it's slightly different in the case of unpredictable criminal activity, such as burglary, assault or the sale or supply of drugs.

Tbh this idea that the Gardaí show special favour to Irish Water is bordering on a conspiracy theory. The Gardaí have a necessary role to play in public order generally, regardless of who is being targeted.

Johngoose

I hate this victimisation complex these chavs have,clearly some bull**** story about a "sick baby." Fupping drive the car through another part of that ****hole,put it in reverse!

Gatling

Ask the op to post the video where a woman is demanding the gardai arrest a iw van driver for purposely blocking the road because she wants to get a child home from school ,
Gob****e recording the little staged confrontation pans a little to the left to show why the iw van was in the middle of the road ,
Number of the tracksuit brigade blocked the van going forward and back ,
Que a loud mouth woman demanding the gardai arrest the van driver for obstruction of the road

Johngoose

A new low for brain-dead scumbags!

Gatling

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Caught up in the media hype there I see.
Why does boards.ie allow every thread to be turned into one about about Gerry Adams??

Quite day in politics

Fr. Ned

Gatling wrote: »

Quite day in politics

Must be.

Smidge

sjb25 wrote: »

Garda can block roads legally protesters cannot!

And under what circumstances have you ever seen this happen (other than the water protests)
Genuine question here btw.

I have seen scumbags (real ones;)) cause utter mahem, from Thursday to Sunday night. Week in, week out. Rallying cars, open drug use, drunken carnage and brawls.
There were calls made to the local station by lots of the residents every time this was going on.

Did we see a guard (never mind the numbers protecting a private enterprise, if DoB wants security he should hire a firm)?
Did we feck.

wow sierra

conorh91 wrote: »

Do you seriously think Gardaí have any intention of ignoring a child at risk?

I am so tired of these ridiculous stunts. It's getting to the stage where reasonable people are finding it difficult to be in any way sympathetic to these protestors.

In theory, I appreciate the financial constraints that these people say they are under.

But antagonizing, pestering and maligning the Gardaí with their nonsense does their cause no favors. the fact that they are using an innocent child for their propaganda doesn't help either. Stunts like this deprive the protestors of the support of ordinary taxpayers.

I couldn't agree more - I have to drive past a protest each day going to work and they make my blood boil - and they aren't even directly in my way:rolleyes:. I wonder do most of these protesters even live in the estates they are "protesting" in. They are intimidating workers for a sub contractor of Irish water, who I am sure work very hard and have their own bills to pay. Picket Irish Water head office if ye want to, where the fat cats are earning their nice bonuses. Or Fine Gael who hoisted this system on us all. Leave the poor meter installers and Gardai alone to do their f**king jobs.

sjb25

Bongalongherb wrote: »

Jezz, we already know this. You are talking about protesters, while I was talking about the freedom of passage of a non-protestor with a sick child trying to leave the area to seek medical attention. How many times do I have to explain this.

This has been completely blown out of proportion.

Ok il go back to what I said before to you say if there was an accident on that road the gaurds rightly close it this taxi come up with a sick child what would happen?? They would find an alternative route to use! Why couldn't they here the road was closed due to a Garda operation end of

Bongalongherb

I don't like the idea of folk here calling the protesters scumbags. They are just as pissed-off as the rest of us regarding the mess of IW's implementation.

HeidiHeidi

Smidge wrote: »

(never mind the numbers protecting a private enterprise, if DoB wants security he should hire a firm)

Why does everyone keep referencing Denis O'Brien in Irish Water discussions?

Clearly I missed something along the way, what has he got to do with it?

Smidge

conorh91 wrote: »

Yeah. If there were an angry mob which was alleged to pose a threat to public order or any person, I am sure the Gardaí would be present, regardless.

Of course, it's slightly different in the case of unpredictable criminal activity, such as burglary, assault or the sale or supply of drugs.

Tbh this idea that the Gardaí show special favour to Irish Water is bordering on a conspiracy theory. The Gardaí have a necessary role to play in public order generally, regardless of who is being targeted.

Oh jesus, lol is all that can be said about this post:D

Celly Smunt

Bongalongherb wrote: »

I don't like the idea of folk here calling the protesters scumbags. They are just as pissed-off as the rest of us regarding the mess of IW's implementation.

No.Just no.

They're organised scumbags pure and simple.

Bongalongherb

sjb25 wrote: »

Ok il go back to what I said before to you say if there was an accident on that road the gaurds rightly close it this taxi come up with a sick child what would happen?? They would find an alternative route to use! Why couldn't they here the road was closed due to a Garda operation end of

Wrong. If there is an emergency, and a parent needs to get to a hospital, then the gaurds will allow access out. End of.

veetwin

veetwin wrote: »

What do all these socialist heros do for a living? They must have fantastic jobs that allow them to hang around all day with either an iPhone in their hands or else playing pocket tennis while abusing actual working people..

A few of them work (Joe Higgins, Ruth Coppinger and the latest one Paul Murphy)and give the most of their wages to "The Cause".

hardCopy

Bongalongherb wrote: »

Jezz, we already know this. You are talking about protesters, while I was talking about the freedom of passage of a non-protestor with a sick child trying to leave the area to seek medical attention. How many times do I have to explain this.

This has been completely blown out of proportion.

The roadway was full of protesters. The gardai were presumably trying to clear the road. Allowing a car up the street may have exacerbated the situation.

If the protestors were so concerned for the woman and child then they should clear off out of her estate.

Bongalongherb

Celly Smunt wrote: »

No.Just no.

They're organised scumbags pure and simple.

I don't concur.

Fr. Ned

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Caught up in the media hype there I see.
Why does boards.ie allow every thread to be turned into one about about Gerry Adams??

Or "Super Quangos"

conorh91

Bongalongherb wrote: »

I don't like the idea of folk here calling the protesters scumbags. They are just as pissed-off as the rest of us regarding the mess of IW's implementation.

But we're all pissed off.

It's just that some of us find more constructive ways of expressing our frustration - be that discussions online, or contacting our political representatives, or even by attending a public rally. Whatever.

What we do not do is harass and intimidate honest workers, who are not responsible for this royal mess. And we do not distract Gardaí from getting on with their work either.

wow sierra

Deleted User wrote: »

Personally if I had a sick child I wouldn't stop for any person who stood blocking the road on purpose.

Gardai relations must be at an all time low.

Delighted to see from the reactions on this thread that in fact sympathy is with the Guards in this one - so relations are doing ok actually.

sjb25

Bongalongherb wrote: »

Wrong. If there is an emergency, and a parent needs to get to a hospital, then the gaurds will allow access out. End of.

Yes I'm sure they would if possible I should have put that in I'm just going apocalypse the hole road is blocked for some reson is what I mean I agree with you tho

Fr. Ned

Deleted User wrote: »

Or "Super Quangos"

Hardly.
That's normally on a thread about a super quango.
See, that's how it works....:rolleyes:

TallGlass

Can we just leave this video out of the question at the moment.

As someone said FG and LAB are putting AGS in a very uncomfortable position. AGS police by consent and use community policing as the way the police. What you see in these videos, is mainly not policing by consent and in no way engaging with the community.

The Garda from these areas could be breaking ties with people by what they are doing so I think AGS should really address this issue quick quickly before a video surfaces like the O Connell Street riot.

I as a resident of my estate would not be happy with the Garda presence to begin with and wasted resources (amazing how over-time springs up out of no-where or how we are told Garda numbers are down when 30/40 Garda can show up in an estate) or this restricting of access in and out of estates.

Why is it that the Garda, Local TD's and Protesters have not sat down and tried to work out some solution to the installation of these meters? Rather than continuing the more expensive, forceful and stressful installing of these meters.

Smidge

I can see the usual dunderhead generalisations have begun.
Tracksuit. ..rabble
Accent. ...rabble
Dole scroungers. ..rabble
Scumbags. ..rabble rabble rabble


Have at it lads. I'm clicking un follow before someone sends out the bat signal to mickydoomsux:pac:

My name is URL

Smidge wrote: »

So when there are REAL breaches of law and order in these areas, I'm sure we'll see the same garda presence and display of law enforcement?

It took them over a half an hour to respond to this incident on the country's busiest street, so I wouldn't count on that!

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/exclusive-watch-shocking-scenes-as-violent-group-attempt-to-kick-in-shop-door-after-theft-of-kit-kats-30187602.html