Another Hour Record Attempt upcoming

Beasty

Darkglasses wrote: »

Brandle changed to a front disk wheel like Voigt for the attempt

Would have been crazy not to. It makes a massive difference in something like this

Darkglasses

Beasty wrote: »

Would have been crazy not to. It makes a massive difference in something like this

Yeah, I was surprised the publicity pictures had the bike with a normal deep-section wheel.

Beasty

Darkglasses wrote: »

Making it look easy for now

It's the last 15-20 minutes that matter the most. The smaller track will count against him, but he's keeping a much better line than Jens (so far anyway)

simonrooneyzaga

Interesting the track size is not standardised for the attempt. Did the guy from Scott not just say Brandle has an advantage on the smaller track?

dastardly00

I hadn't realised that the rider is not allowed to be looking at the data from his bike computer while he is riding. Kinda funny that the computer is attached to the back of the saddle.

pelevin

Don't really see why the principle of the rider not allowed power data shouldn't be part of ordinary road-racing also. Should imo be part of the art to gauge where you are by feel.

Darkglasses

Over a minute ahead of Voigt with 16 minutes left, still flying. On for a 52km attempt

Darkglasses

Starting to drop off in the last 9 minutes but shouldn't be in too much danger, his lead is bobbing up and around a minute.

REBELSAFC

He's slowing down. Under 52kph now but should have enough in the tank to hold on

velo.2010

He's fading a bit now.... actually more than a bit.


My guess, he'll beat it by 36 seconds! edit: he stayed strong at the end and didn't fade as much as I thought.

wanderer 22

velo.2010 wrote: »

He's fading a bit now.... actually more than a bit.


My guess, he'll beat it by 36 seconds!

I guess 42!

Darkglasses

It's distance that matters lads :P

I think he'll get 52.1km

wanderer 22

Darkglasses wrote: »

It's distance that matters lads :P

I think he'll get 52.1km

Ha,of course :pac:

Darkglasses

Great ride Brandle! Very different looking effort to Voigt's. Brandle was clearly completely spent, whereas Voigt probably could have gone farther

REBELSAFC

51850m

Thats 51.85 kmph (incase anyone needed clarification):rolleyes:;)

Beasty

pelevin wrote: »

Don't really see why the principle of the rider not allowed power data shouldn't be part of ordinary road-racing also. Should imo be part of the art to gauge where you are by feel.

He might not have the data in front of him, but that does not prevent his team (who do have access to it) from communicating with him throughout the hour

Beasty

simonrooneyzaga wrote: »

Interesting the track size is not standardised for the attempt. Did the guy from Scott not just say Brandle has an advantage on the smaller track?

It may not have been as big a disadvantage to him as to some others. However a shorter track is typically tighter than a longer one and the commentators indicated throughout that a 250m track is better. There has been some surprise expressed by the likes of Michael Hutchinson that a 200m track was chosen. It seems that track was chosen as much for it's proximity to the team and its sponsors.

IP freely

pelevin wrote: »

Don't really see why the principle of the rider not allowed power data shouldn't be part of ordinary road-racing also. Should imo be part of the art to gauge where you are by feel.

That's the same as saying that's racing cars shouldn't have rev counters and fuel gauges on them.

Technology is a good thing, it makes things faster / tighter and better to watch. embrace it

pelevin

IP freely wrote: »

That's the same as saying that's racing cars shouldn't have rev counters and fuel gauges on them.

Technology is a good thing, it makes things faster / tighter and better to watch. embrace it

No, it's not the same as saying that at all. I would see part of the art of cycling as for instance on a mountain climb the cyclist having to make judgements on if to attack, whether to follow an attack, etc for himself rather than being able to look at his power meter with the knowledge of what should be feasible over such a climb & ride to that. That's racing to a large degree reduced to the physiological rather than anything to do with racing. Rather than improving racing, I'd say such usage of power meters, etc makes racing much more controllable & predictable - very much the Team Sky modus operandis - rather than alive & spontaneous.

Glass Prison 1214

This hour record is cool, hope to see more attempts.

pelevin

Beasty wrote: »

He might not have the data in front of him, but that does not prevent his team (who do have access to it) from communicating with him throughout the hour

But, even if not in wholly purely there, the principle is still in place to a fair degree.

simonrooneyzaga

Beasty wrote: »

It may not have been as big a disadvantage to him as to some others. However a shorter track is typically tighter than a longer one and the commentators indicated throughout that a 250m track is better. There has been some surprise expressed by the likes of Michael Hutchinson that a 200m track was chosen. It seems that track was chosen as much for it's proximity to the team and its sponsors.

I see. Makes sense logistically if he was reasonably confident he'd break it on that track size I suppose.

I would have thought the UCI would have set a defined track size for all efforts considering all the recent tinkering to the rules, just so there are as few variables as possible.

Congrats to Mr.Brändle, I know him now! ;-)

cunavalos

Plenty of opportunity for further improvement in the record. Remember obree and boardman have both gone faster (52+) and Rommiger hit 55+.

Edit Boardman also has a 56 but equipment rules made his attempt ineligible for the record as well.

Brandle clearly slowed over time and finished much slower than Voigt




The big question is will one of the specialists (Cancellara , Martin, Wiggins) come along soon and blow the record out of the water or will we continue to get lower profile riders continue to increase the record.

Beasty

Well Jens certainly isn't "low profile". However the change in equipment rules has clearly opened this up to quite a number of riders. Magnus Backstedt indicated he was aware of 2 other attempts in the pipeline and I reckon we will see a few attempts by non-household names for a while. Then we'll probably have one of the "big boys" raising the bar and putting off a lot of riders until another of the likes of Wiggo, Cancellara or Martin gives it a go

cunavalos

Beasty wrote: »

Well Jens certainly isn't "low profile". However the change in equipment rules has clearly opened this up to quite a number of riders. Magnus Backstedt indicated he was aware of 2 other attempts in the pipeline and I reckon we will see a few attempts by non-household names for a while. Then we'll probably have one of the "big boys" raising the bar and putting off a lot of riders until another of the likes of Wiggo, Cancellara or Martin gives it a go

Ok maybe lower profile was not the most accurate choice of words, but If i was to ask you at the start of the year to select 10 riders most suited to breaking the hour record Jens and Brandle would not have entered the discussion (Despite both being notable timetriallists ).

The current focus on the hour has become a way for bike manufacturers and teams to maintain their profile during the off season so i agree it is unlikely that one of the big hitters will attempt it this winter and we will see less familiar names continue the attempts. It all depends on their respective schedules but it be next a BMC rider (Taylor Phinney) or Canyon (Dowsett) before Specialized (Martin) Trek (Cancellara) and Pinarello (Wiggins).

Beasty

Actually it will be very interesting to see if Wiggo gives it a go with his trade team bike supplier, or relies on whatever is flavour of the month with the secret squirrel club. Money-wise it's clearly the former, but distance-wise it's got to be the latter

cunavalos

Beasty wrote: »

Actually it will be very interesting to see if Wiggo gives it a go with his trade team bike supplier, or relies on whatever is flavour of the month with the secret squirrel club. Money-wise it's clearly the former, but distance-wise it's got to be the latter

But if wiggins rumoured attempt is summer 2015 i presume it will be a prototype of the bike the secret squirrel club are working on for Río 2016 and they might be concerned about giving too much info away to rival federations or manufacturers.

as you said money talks and it will depend on how keen pinarello are in claiming the record

dave_o_brien

Beasty wrote: »

Actually it will be very interesting to see if Wiggo gives it a go with his trade team bike supplier, or relies on whatever is flavour of the month with the secret squirrel club. Money-wise it's clearly the former, but distance-wise it's got to be the latter

Surely there will be a spesh/mclaren style "collaboration"? Secret Squirellerello?

Beasty

I think it unfair that they can have full access to all this latest technology with state of the art and genuine bikes. I think there should be a separate Chinarello record that should be reserved for those of you that cannot afford all of that stuff .... :pac:

dave_o_brien

Beasty wrote: »

I think it unfair that they can have full access to all this latest technology with state of the art and genuine bikes. I think there should be a separate Chinarello record that should be reserved for those of you that cannot afford all of that stuff .... :pac:

I can't afford to get my skinsuit repaired. Do I get my own category?