Waterford mob 'attacks' Roma family

Yurt2

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

How do you know that they didn't call the guards or talk to their elected representatives about this? Just like in the France and the burqa ban thread, the Irish middle class lefties, who live in predominantly Irish middle class areas, know best. Not the people who actually live in these areas.

There were more tracksuits in that video than an Olympic village. I'm going to take a wild guess that the folk outside that house are the demographic that are used to Garda interaction themselves.

If they were in Britain they'd be BNP fodder.

I live in a poorer urban setting myself before you go there. And there's a difference between being working class and acting like a scumbag.

ThisRegard

pablo128 wrote: »

Sinn Fein had no problem confronting scumbag families where I'm from, back in the day.

When that became 'unacceptable' to the masses, the area got destroyed with heroin and other drugs, culminating in 2 families regularly having shoot outs across the local park/football pitches.

Back in the day being the 1800s wild west ?

Sonderkommando

Yurt! wrote: »

I'm no fan of how the travelling community raises it's children and conduct their affairs much of the time, but the day there's a mob of pitchfork wielding bigots surrounding a halting site looking for blood will be a sad indictment of what our society will tolerate.

I agree, that is why I stated that I'm no fan of mob rule. If pavee point recognised the faults within the travelling and roma community and worked to fix them they would be much better of and tollerane with settled folk would grow. Until then they will reap what they so.

Yurt2

Digital Society wrote: »

Do you actually think this just started today? This has been making news here for months and Guards have done nothing.

They literally walk outside there house and smash bottle's off peoples head for a tenner and a phone.

Today they came out with knives and batons at 4 pm and started robbing random people.

Not even a ****ing traveller would be that bad.
Stop with this meet with your politician ****.

The guards where of course called and once again did jack ****.

Don a cape and mask and form a justice league with your buddies so. May I suggest 'Captain Shellsuit'?

As I said, BNP fodder the lot of them.

tomwaterford

Yurt! wrote: »

Call the Gards, call a townhall community meeting, meet with your local representatives.

A mob of tracksuit wearing plonkers surrounding a house (perhaps with kids inside, you don't know) foaming at the mouth is unacceptable.

The gaurds don't care/ appear helpless to do anything...alot of there crimes are CCTV monitored ( well my mates attempted mugging was)...hopefully the town will be a bit safer on night's out now

As for politician there is one who is at lesst attempting to rid another estate in the town of ridding it of another criminal family who have already burnt hid car out...tbf to him he hasn't backed down and his constant badgering has led to limited action from the gaurds and CAB

pablo128

Yurt! wrote: »

There were more tracksuits in that video than an Olympic village. I'm going to take a wild guess that the folk outside that house are the demographic that are used to Garda interaction themselves.

If they were in Britain they'd be BNP fodder.

I live in a poorer urban setting myself before you go there. And there's a difference between being working class and acting like a scumbag.

What's this about tracksuits? I wear track suits now and then. I'm 39, with a partner and child, 3 cars between us, and I work 6 days a week.

What's the big deal about an item of clothing? What if I had ginger hair, buck teeth, black slip-ons and a pair of chino's too big for me? Would you call me a traveller?

woodoo

Yurt! wrote: »

There were more tracksuits in that video than an Olympic village. I'm going to take a wild guess that the folk outside that house are the demographic that are used to Garda interaction themselves.

If they were in Britain they'd be BNP fodder.

I live in a poorer urban setting myself before you go there. And there's a difference between being working class and acting like a scumbag.

Perhaps when a house comes up for rent in your neighborhood you could inform pavee point and they could move some roma in. That will test your leftie credentials.

fedor.2.

Yurt! wrote: »

Don a cape and mask and form a justice league with your buddies so. May I suggest 'Captain Shellsuit'?

As I said, BNP fodder the lot of them.

Head down there yourself so and give the Roma some hugs, that should sort it out. You're either very young or very naive.

BoJack Horseman

When cultural Marxism gets its claws into the apparatus of the state under the guise of liberal tolerance, people in their anger & despair fall into vigilantism.

RobYourBuilder

fedor.2. wrote: »

Head down there yourself so and give the Roma some hugs, that should sort it out. You're either very young or very naive.

If you read the comments underneath the video on Facebook, one lunatic referred to the Roma as her 'Roma brothers' and offered to drive down to stand in solidarity with them.

These people live a very sheltered existence.

fedor.2.

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

If you read the comments underneath the video on Facebook, one lunatic referred to the Roma as her 'Roma brothers' and offered to drive down to stand in solidarity with them.

These people live a very sheltered existence.

I hope she leaves her purse at home

tomwaterford

woodoo wrote: »

Perhaps when a house comes up for rent in your neighborhood you could inform pavee point and they could move some roma in. That will test your leftie credentials.

Look it. .let them live away wherever they want....so long as like everyone else's they don't put in and out on anyone...there no problem...but Jesus these were taking the piss and was time for them to be gone

woodoo

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

If you read the comments underneath the video on Facebook, one lunatic referred to the Roma as her 'Roma brothers' and offered to drive down to stand in solidarity with them.

These people live a very sheltered existence.

Dangerously naive.

kingchess

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

If you read the comments underneath the video on Facebook, one lunatic referred to the Roma as her 'Roma brothers' and offered to drive down to stand in solidarity with them.

These people live a very sheltered existence.

Pity the powers-that-be can not rehouse them next door to her,I am sure she would be delighted,(well maybe for a day or two).:)

Yurt2

woodoo wrote: »

Perhaps when a house comes up for rent in your neighborhood you could inform pavee point and they could move some roma in. That will test your leftie credentials.

I live a few doors down from a methadone clinic and and around the corner from a men's homeless hostel. You don't need to tell me about anti social behaviour. If **** goes down you call the cops.

I like how you conflate thinking trackie wearing muppets in a mob outside a house are dopes is being left wing. Carry on regardless.

punisher5112

Forgot to add in my post our police force are also afraid and limited at what they can actually do as do gooders and the laws don't back them.

The likes of that very dim person on facebook saying she would stand by them and support is too common as I come across these types all the time.

Yurt2

pablo128 wrote: »

What's this about tracksuits? I wear track suits now and then. I'm 39, with a partner and child, 3 cars between us, and I work 6 days a week.

What's the big deal about an item of clothing? What if I had ginger hair, buck teeth, black slip-ons and a pair of chino's too big for me? Would you call me a traveller?

If you're part of a mob screaming 'out out out' in front of a house in a tracksuit, yeah I reserve the right to call that person a scumbag. I highly doubt the people in the video are the most productive members of society themselves. This smacks of an organised act of intimidation.

I've no love for anyone who mugs or steals, but this craic in Waterford is scummy.

tomwaterford

Yurt! wrote: »

I live a few doors down from a methadone clinic and and around the corner from a men's homeless hostel. You don't need to tell me about anti social behaviour. If **** goes down you call the cops.

I like how you conflate thinking trackie wearing muppets in a mob outside a house is being left wing. Carry on uregardless.

What do you do if after attempted mugging caught on camera going to gaurds following morning with black eye only to be told nothing really can be done....the way things were going only matter of time before they killed someone...we have enough native scumbags around Waterford...don't mind the begging..thats harmless enough

pablo128

Yurt! wrote: »

If you're part of a mob screaming 'out out out' in front of a house in a tracksuit, yeah I reserve the right to call that person a scumbag. I highly doubt the people in the video are the most productive members of society themselves. This smacks of an organised act of intimidation.

I've no love for anyone who mugs or steals, but this craic in Waterford is scummy.

What has that got to do with wearing a tracksuit?

Tail Docker

All I took from the video was the Gardai outside the houses were facing the wrong way..

Yurt2

pablo128 wrote: »

What has that got to do with wearing a tracksuit?

I'll be as polite as I can with this one, I've found that those who wear tracksuits outside of a sporting context aren't the most civilised of people themselves. The video sadly confirms this bias of mine.

johnty56

Yurt! wrote: »

I'll be as polite as I can with this one, I've found that those who wear tracksuits outside of a sporting context aren't the most civilised of people themselves. The video sadly confirms this bias of mine.

That's hilarious.. here you are trying to argue against generalisations and bias, and engaging in it yourself.. if the charter allowed I would be calling you names right now, because you are a

Digital Society

Yurt! wrote: »

I'll be as polite as I can with this one, I've found that those who wear tracksuits outside of a sporting context aren't the most civilised of people themselves. The video sadly confirms this bias of mine.

There's only a handful of people wearing tracksuits in that video Out of a crowd of about 100. Don't know why you keep talking about them.

If it was Dublin it would be about 50%.

Chance The Fapper

If it's true about the robbing etc then it's fair enough. In that case it'd be nice to head down by yourself, and when they come out to rob you have a few lads coming the other way with bats, and batter them round the place.

Your man taking the video is a dickhead all the same.

pablo128

Yurt! wrote: »

I'll be as polite as I can with this one, I've found that those who wear tracksuits outside of a sporting context aren't the most civilised of people themselves. The video sadly confirms this bias of mine.

You are saying I am not civilised then if I wear one of my tracksuits when I am not playing football. You are saying my 6 year old daughter is not civilised when she is out playing while wearing a tracksuit. One of the most comfortable and practical outfits you can wear for casual use.

Why don't you look past the tracksuits and ask yourself how many of those people outside of that house have suffered at the hands of these thugs?

And stop labelling people wearing tracksuits as scumbags please.

MRnotlob606

When will Europe wake up, we need checks and balances on our immigration policy into who we leave in

Yurt2

johnty56 wrote: »

That's hilarious.. here you are trying to argue against generalisations and bias, and engaging in it yourself.. if the charter allowed I would be calling you names right now, because you are a

Go call the tracksuit discrimination council of Ireland, I'm sure they'll be very interested to hear about your grievance.

My point is very simple, those who attempt to engage in mob justice are plumbs and lead society down a very dangerous path.

If your problem is Roma or anyone else committing crime, call the cops or organise a community meeting.

artful_codger

Yurt! wrote: »

Go call the tracksuit discrimination council of Ireland, I'm sure they'll be very interested to hear about your grievance.

My point is very simple, those who attempt to engage in mob justice are plumbs and lead society down a very dangerous path.

If your problem is Roma or anyone else committing crime, call the cops or organise a community meeting.

No, I think your point is that people wearing Tracksuits can't possibly have legitimate grievances, you bell-end.

punisher5112

Yurt! wrote: »

Go call the tracksuit discrimination council of Ireland, I'm sure they'll be very interested to hear about your grievance.

My point is very simple, those who attempt to engage in mob justice are plumbs and lead society down a very dangerous path.

If your problem is Roma or anyone else committing crime, call the cops or organise a community meeting.

Cops cant touch them and politicians are afraid to do anything as will be all labeled racist etc etc

PizzamanIRL

There's always 2 sides to a story. We just see the video. There's obviously a reason for this little protest and I doubt it's anything to do with race. The targets just happen to be Romanian so people use the racism card immediately.

Yurt2

artful_codger wrote: »

No, I think your point is that people wearing Tracksuits can't possibly have legitimate grievances, you bell-end.

How many of this highly sporting mob have been attacked by Roma? Few enough I'd wager. This was an organised mob of clowns looking to start trouble.

Sir Osis of Liver.

Any of the Roma men ive seen wear tracksuit bottoms with their leather jackets and slip-on shoes.

PucaMama

Tugboats wrote: »

They provide a vital rose selling service outside nightclubs at 2am. Ive impressed and pulled many fat Irish slags with the help of a Roma rose seller

any reason for being such a ****ing prick? typical AH anti women attitude

artful_codger

Yurt! wrote: »

How many of this highly sporting mob have been attacked by Roma? Few enough I'd wager. This was an organised mob of clowns looking to start trouble.

I haven't been attacked by ISIS, does that mean I can't go out and attend a protest against them? Seriously, stop embarrassing yourself, it's past your bedtime.

kryogen

Digital Society wrote: »

There's only a handful of people wearing tracksuits in that video Out of a crowd of about 100. Don't know why you keep talking about them.

If it was Dublin it would be about 50%.

There was about 60 people there, some were wearing tracksuits, some were wearing jeans.

What difference does it make? Some scumbags I know dress very well.

Yurt2

artful_codger wrote: »

I haven't been attacked by ISIS, does that mean I can't go out and attend a protest against them? Seriously, stop embarrassing yourself, it's past your bedtime.

Roma thieves = ISIS. I've heard it all now.

This isn't a protest, it's a mob of people screaming outside a house. I trust you understand the distinction. Or maybe not.

Digital Society

kryogen wrote: »

There was about 60 people there, some were wearing tracksuits, some were wearing jeans.

What difference does it make? Some scumbags I know dress very well.

Couldn't give a **** what people wear.

Should March on every scumbag in the town if it sorts them out.

tomwaterford

Yurt! wrote: »

How many of this highly sporting mob have been attacked by Roma? Few enough I'd wager. This was an organised mob of clowns looking to start trouble.

I would say there is not one person who does be around town on a sat night...that doesn't know someone who's been mugged/ attacked....afaik the su in wit were after complain them as well for burglaries and hassling students passing aswell
Still nothing done...after three years of regular complaint....it seems they finally overplayed there hand to day chasing people down with knives to mug them

kryogen

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

There's always 2 sides to a story. We just see the video. There's obviously a reason for this little protest and I doubt it's anything to do with race. The targets just happen to be Romanian so people use the racism card immediately.

Not sure which video ye saw, is it in the OP? didnt click the link, just know from my facebook newsfeed and working down in that area myself while it was happening what went on.

There was a protest, the guards were called. The people protesting are not wrong to be angry at the criminals living in the houses, but it was not a good situation, that kind of thing in general is never good. There are kids in the houses too and though they would already rob the eye out of your head I am sure they shouldn't be harmed, taken in care maybe, but not terrified or harmed.

This is not to say any harm would have come to them from the protesters or anything if the Gardai had not been called, but its a slippy slope and particularly in light of what happened last week with the petrol bomb I think people should show some restraint while making their feelings known.

Protesting (peacefully) contacting and petitioning landlords/councils etc is perfectly acceptable to me, vigilante justice would not be. As a society we either want law and order or we don't tbh. Its not perfect obviously, apparently they had been served notice of eviction already anyway which is good if true.

arse..biscuits

Yurt! wrote: »

Roma thieves = ISIS. I've heard it all now.

He didn't say that, he made a simple point and you can't understand it. Try reading it again very slowly.

fryup

feckin greeks they invented gayness

Sir Osis of Liver.

I was cursed by a Roma woman once.




I called her a dirty Gypo, and she told me to fu ck off.

Yurt2

arse..biscuits wrote: »

He didn't say that, he made a simple point and you can't understand it. Try reading it again very slowly.

He was conflating attending an anti ISIS protest with gathering around a house like a bunch of (sporty) pitchfork wielding morons.

You'd think with all the sun you get in the South East your critical faculties would be stronger.

Anyway, enjoy the national headlines lads. You're a credit to your city

yes there

I have made a habit of repeating exactly what roma beggers ask me when approached by them. Seems to really piss them off after initially confusing them.

Tail Docker

Sir Osis of Liver. wrote: »

I was cursed by a Roma woman once.




I called her a dirty Gypo, and she told me to fu ck off.

Did it come true?

kryogen

Yurt! wrote: »

He was conflating attending an anti ISIS protest with gathering around a house like a bunch of (sporty) pitchfork wielding morons.

You'd think with all the sun you get in the South East critical faculties would be stronger.

Anyway, enjoy the national headlines lads. You're a credit to your city

Na you just missed the (pretty damn near impossible to miss it was so clear) point.

KungPao

Irish people are very naive to what the Roma community is all about. I cry inside when I see people give them money on the street. They are NOT poor unfortunates, this is their lifestyle. They live to get money off of other people without doing anything for it.

If they were doing as said previously, then they deserve to have a mob after them.

artful_codger

Yurt! wrote: »

He was conflating attending an anti ISIS protest with gathering around a house like a bunch of (sporty) pitchfork wielding morons.

No, you just dodged the question I posed, because you didn't like it. I'll ask it again, and leave your clichés about pitchforks, mobs and screaming out of it. I'd say you were wetting your panties at the thought of the same people protesting Irish water... but I guess they weren't a 'mob' then.


So the question is this: Do you believe that someone who hasn't been attacked by a group, doesn't have a right to protest that group?

Yurt2

kryogen wrote: »

Na you just missed the (pretty damn near impossible to miss it was so clear) point.

Cool bro.

There's an offer on Puma shellsuits in JD Sports on at the moment.
You'll need to get your uniform in order for the next 'protest'.

Yurt2

artful_codger wrote: »

So the question is this: Do you believe that someone who hasn't been attacked by a group, doesn't have a right to protest that group?

No you complete div, that's called vigilantism. This was not a 'protest'. Again, enjoy the press you're going to get. As if Waterford doesn't have enough problems.