decent wages

Dr Turk Turkelton

2011 wrote: »

My bad, I misread your post and did not see "most".

However, I know many people earring well over €15 per hour and they don't hold a college degree. This includes a mechanic, a tool room supervisor, a crèche manager, a horse riding instructor, a salesman and a plumber.

Just to clarify: Electrical foremen are generally qualified electricians that are not degree qualified. During an apprenticeship trainees spend some time in college.

Out of your list a mechanic and a plumber would have done four year apprenticeships, a creche manager I'm sure would have a qualification in childcare though I'm not sure how long that would take but I would imagine at least two years?
I believe the question was without a qualification not without a degree.

2011

Tzardine wrote: »

That's 14 years ago though. A lot has happened since then

What's the rate for the same job today.

I work on large projects in the pharmaceutical and semiconductor sector. I deal with highly skilled and experienced people working in roles such as electrical foreman, electrical & instrumentation supervisor, electrical estimators . They would all earn well above the TEEU union rates of pay for qualified electricians. In addition many would be paid expenses (much of the expenses are tax free too). Normally these individuals would not have college degrees, if they did they would be working as electrical engineers.

Even in the depths of the recession suitably experienced and skilled electrical and instrumentation people were in demand in certain sectors.

2011

Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »

Out of your list a mechanic and a plumber would have done four year apprenticeships

Absolutely, but this is very different to a degree.

I believe the question was without a qualification not without a degree.

No, the the question was:

what jobs are there in eire that pay well without having a college degree not afraid of hard work or woudlnt be squemish if u know what i mean will do anything once the pay is good any info welcome

Tzardine

2011 wrote: »

........I deal with highly skilled and experienced people....

I understand your point but the Op by the sounds of it is neither highly skilled or experienced. It appears that his current / last role is a cleaner.

Yet he wants to get paid more than the person you are talking about.

2011

Tzardine wrote: »

I understand your point but the Op by the sounds of it is neither highly skilled or experienced. It appears that his current / last role is a cleaner.

Yet he wants to get paid more than the person you are talking about.

I am just trying to make the point that it is possible to earn a descent wage without having a college degree.

There is no reason why a cleaner can't become an apprentice electrician.
Within a year this individual can expect to earn more than a cleaner.
I take the point that things are not as rose as they were, but things are improving.

whats newxt

Self employed electrician or plumber also self employed in IT

Gongoozler

My boyfriend is a painter, no qualifications, takes home probably an average of 600 or so a week. I'm guessing he can charge that because he's good. So while it is possible, unless you're actually good at it, I wouldn't expect to make that.

Ging Ging

If you don't mind staying up all night and sleeping during days when your off every second month then get a shift work job that pays a shift bonus. Typically 25 to 45% on top of wages.
As suggested above you could research how med device companies recruit. Getting your foot in the door may involve working for an agency initially until permanent positions become available. You won't get rich working for agency as a contractor but it may be a way into a company who pay their permanent staff a decent wage.

NoQuarter

Stheno wrote: »

It's illegal to work those hours week after week, are you self employed?

Stop would ya, I work in a law firm and I work that, illegal my backside.

amen

My boyfriend is a painter

most painters do a 4 year apprenticeship the same as any other trade.

2011

amen wrote: »

most painters do a 4 year apprenticeship the same as any other trade.

Very few painters complete a 4 year apprenticeship nowadays.

btb

HGV driver, will definitely have to do the hours and should take home 500 yoyo's.
And will know that you've done upwards of 50 hours. Nice comfortable seat included.

flutered

ted1 wrote: »

Legally the Max you can do is an average of 48

unless you are working for a farmer down in the sticks, one near me has workers in at 7am work 13 hours as in his words im paying nocnut to eat, summer time 7am until 10pm sometimes 12midnight, that is 7 daay per week each week, have to wait until the winter time to collect your overtime, then you may not be able to collect it

donkey balls

btb wrote: »

HGV driver, will definitely have to do the hours and should take home 500 yoyo's.
And will know that you've done upwards of 50 hours. Nice comfortable seat included.

There is a lot more than sitting in a nice comfy seat driving a truck, In general the hours are unsocial with start times from anything from 12 midnight to 4/5 am doing 15 hour shifts,Take stobart who does the distribution for Tesco those lads get paid just above the min wage.

Gongoozler

amen wrote: »

most painters do a 4 year apprenticeship the same as any other trade.

Whether or not that's true I don't know, but he doesn't have any qualifications for it. Just experience since he was young.

MouseTail

Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »

Out of your list a mechanic and a plumber would have done four year apprenticeships, a creche manager I'm sure would have a qualification in childcare though I'm not sure how long that would take but I would imagine at least two years?
I believe the question was without a qualification not without a degree.

A crèche manager needs at least a Level 6 qualification, and increasingly a level 7 (degree).

2011

MouseTail wrote: »

A crèche manager needs at least a Level 6 qualification, and increasingly a level 7 (degree).

A level 6 is not a college degree, so my point stands i.e. it is possible to make a descent wage without having a college degree.

Besides the person that I am referring to has no college qualifications of any kind.
She inherited a large home and turned it into a crèche.

Mrs OBumble

2011 wrote: »

A level 6 is not a college degree, so my point stands i.e. it is possible to make a descent wage without having a college degree.

Besides the person that I am referring to has no college qualifications of any kind.
She inherited a large home and turned it into a crèche.

That's an industry in which the requirements are changing a lot at the moment.

For a long time, the only requirement to work in early-childhood-education has been that you're breathing (and even that could be optional if they had problems making ratios ... I jest, but you get the idea).

Requirements for qualifications are being introduced at all levels, and sooner or later the woman you're speaking of will need to either get qualified, or to concentrate on only the business-management aspects and hire a qualified educator to manage the work with children.

btb

donkey balls wrote: »

There is a lot more than sitting in a nice comfy seat driving a truck, In general the hours are unsocial with start times from anything from 12 midnight to 4/5 am doing 15 hour shifts,Take stobart who does the distribution for Tesco those lads get paid just above the min wage.

Was saying that 'tongue in cheek' as OP was looking for job to earn that amount per week and was not afraid of hard work.
Gave many years in the haulage industry long before comfy seats and plenty of horses were the norm, know what its like to do 2 days work in one and not clean work either. Not an easy life by any means.

newmug

Boards is indeed a strange place. I seem to remember a few months ago, where people were whinging saying E100K was a sh1te wage, and "how could anyone live on that"!?!?!?!?


Oh how the tables have turned!

2011

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

That's an industry in which the requirements are changing a lot at the moment.

For a long time, the only requirement to work in early-childhood-education has been that you're breathing (and even that could be optional if they had problems making ratios ... I jest, but you get the idea).

Requirements for qualifications are being introduced at all levels, and sooner or later the woman you're speaking of will need to either get qualified, or to concentrate on only the business-management aspects and hire a qualified educator to manage the work with children.

Perhaps.
But my point remains in response to the OP: This person can still earn a good wage (managing s crèche) without having a college degree.

j80ezgvc3p92xu

Toolmaker. You will have to do an apprenticeship, but these lads rake it in. Nice masculine job as well, a lot of blue humor. Also, welders with a few years experience don't do too badly for themselves.

NZ_2014

RossieMan wrote: »

theres no where you can just walk into and get a job like that.

Stick with the imaginary job you have i'd say.

I earned 600-700 quid a week after tax as a labourer aged 18 back in the boom. Although that was working 8-6 and sometimes saturday 8-1 for double time.

Oh those crazy boom times.

MouseTail

2011 wrote: »

A level 6 is not a college degree, so my point stands i.e. it is possible to make a descent wage without having a college degree.

Besides the person that I am referring to has no college qualifications of any kind.
She inherited a large home and turned it into a crèche.

Well she is a business owner then, rather than a crèche worker. She cannot work in the crèche without qualifications, and cannot operate the ECCE scheme, unless she employs staff with the qualifications.

MouseTail

Carmelo Late Videodisc wrote: »

Toolmaker. You will have to do an apprenticeship, but these lads rake it in. Nice masculine job as well, a lot of blue humor. Also, welders with a few years experience don't do too badly for themselves.

And a forecasted shortage of toolmakers.

2011

MouseTail wrote: »

Well she is a business owner then, rather than a crèche worker. She cannot work in the crèche without qualifications, and cannot operate the ECCE scheme, unless she employs staff with the qualifications.

You are missing the point.

The OP wanted to know if it is possible to earn a "decent wage" without having a college degree.
I stated that this is possible and gave several examples of people that I know.
The qualifications that you mention are not college degrees.

cournioni

newmug wrote: »

Boards is indeed a strange place. I seem to remember a few months ago, where people were whinging saying E100K was a sh1te wage, and "how could anyone live on that"!?!?!?!?


Oh how the tables have turned!

Were they not on about couples that earned €100k between them? Might be average enough for areas that are expensive to live in (cities generally).

DoYouEvenLift

Definitely not suited to an office job involving a bit of typing with that grammar anyway.


Trades would be a good option.


Edit: Not actually knocking trades if it seems like that. Trades genuinely can earn really good money, especially if you started your own business.

chrysagon

I know quite a few self employed tradesmaen, who spent part of their week chasing money they were owed!

DoYouEvenLift

chrysagon wrote: »

I know quite a few self employed tradesmaen, who spent part of their week chasing money they were owed!

So sad that that's how it is for a lot of stuff like this. When someone goes to a shop to buy food or clothes they have the money to pay for it upfront yet we have people who will have tradesmen and others do work for them and put off paying them to the point some even forget they owe the money. It's really unfair on the workers as it could cost them future jobs if they demanded to be paid on the spot since some pricks would spread negative feedback about the worker.

2011

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

When someone goes to a shop to buy food or clothes they have the money to pay for it upfront yet we have people who will have tradesmen and others do work for them and put off paying them to the point some even forget they owe the money.

I was that soldier

jonon9

derferjam wrote: »

Hi all
I am building a 2000 sq/ft mInImum house bungalow and was wondering what rates to expect for:

Electrician
Plumber
Plaster
carpenter

All help needed
Thanks

Construction&Planning would be the best place to post a question like this.

Mrs OBumble

jonon9 wrote: »

Construction&Planning would be the best place to post a question like this.

Yup, that post has been moved here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057320596

Galwayguy35

btb wrote: »

HGV driver, will definitely have to do the hours and should take home 500 yoyo's.
And will know that you've done upwards of 50 hours. Nice comfortable seat included.

You will well earn that €500, there was money to be made in driving a rig a few years ago but not so much now.

Galwayguy35

Although a fella in my class in school left after 1st year, is a crane operator now and seems to be doing very well for himself.

h_orse

I worked in admin for a few years, my take home pay was €320 for a normal week ie 39 hours, work was sometimes very difficult and demanding and some days quiet. Terrible money it was i felt anyway, difficult to get a good paying job now, all filled up....:o

Keep looking do. You need to have some idea in your head what you need to persue in life it helps.....

Nearly every job in life you have to start at the bottom of the ladder and work from there up....


All the best