Modified Car Problem?!?!

stephenmarr

OP can we have a pic of the bmw

biko

Couple cards handed out. Please use a more civil tone.

djflawless

stephenmarr wrote: »

OP can we have a pic of the bmw

+1!!

Daaryl

I can't post any URL's as i'm a new user...

djflawless

Daaryl wrote: »

I can't post any URL's as i'm a new user...

pity, i think subtle beemers are lovely looking!!

Interslice

Boards.ie fact is that every BMW leaves the factory as the perfect driving machine and cannot be improved upon in any way. This is unlike many other makes of car, particularly japaneasy ones, which can easily be made way faster because they leave the factory as a badly put together pile of scrap so any parts replaced on the driveway are an improvement. You can make an WRX STI Impreza faster using aftermarket parts FFS! Sure they had to do it just so it could get around the TT course without killing the pilot and a load of spectators.

djflawless

Interslice wrote: »

Boards.ie fact is that every BMW leaves the factory as the perfect driving machine and cannot be improved upon in any way. This is unlike many other makes of car, particularly japaneasy ones, which can easily be made way faster because they leave the factory as a badly put together pile of scrap so any parts replaced on the driveway are an improvement. You can make an WRX STI Impreza faster using aftermarket parts FFS! Sure they had to do it just so it could get around the TT course without killing the pilot and a load of spectators.

:0 that's a very vw/audi attitude!!
gwan, admit your jealous of lads in sweet looking jap cars
and aren't Scooby doos new Zealand planned and put together in Japan to their specs??

foggy_lad

Daaryl wrote: »

This has annoyed me for sometime and it's time for a rant..

I have a bmw 318is, It's lowered, Loud exhuast, Back wheels are cambered due to it being low.. Any time i'm always out driving in it there's always one person that tailgates or has to drive aggressively behind me or try and race me, It's more old lads in their bmw's and audi's that do it, When i come to speedramps i know it annoys few people that i have to go slow over them, Even when my car wasn't lowered i don't go fast over them.. I don't see why people treat others who have modified cars on the road differently and have no respect for them to those who don't, I know there's alot of other people out there who treat everybody on the road the same, But it's generally old people or people in new audi's, bmw's and mercedes who are more dangerous on the road and alot of them should have their license took off them, And i'm not saying all young lads are good drivers but there's a percentage of young lads that are actually good drivers!.. Rant over!

Are those modified cars easy to insure without telling lies to your insurance company? What about passing the NCT? I know of a few around Carlow who have all the original parts and put the car back to the way it should be before going for the NCT. There are also some that use the roads around the town as a testing ground for their uninsured death traps.

YbFocus wrote: »

None of these things are any real use on the road but for where coilovers are meant to be they are second to none.

Agreed that modified cars should be banned outside of private tracks.

Coilovers get you through any given corner as quickly as that car can manage AND much quicker than a standard setup car.

How quick is too quick?
http://www.rulesoftheroad.ie/rules-of-the-road-eng.pdf

A vehicle must not be driven at a speed exceeding that which will enable its
driver to bring it to a halt within a distance the driver can see to be clear.

Just in case anyone had forgotten.

2. Definitely agree that some do not declare mods without a doubt but that is a given with any type of driver. Some don't declare points, some don't bring qualified drivers with them. Hell, some don't even get insurance!

So there is a certain level of illegality involved with modified cars from illegally tinted windows and illegal tyres to other serious breaches like false declarations to insurance companies and changing parts for the NCT then placing illegal parts back on the vehicle.

Daaryl

foggy_lad wrote: »

Agreed that modified cars should be banned outside of private tracks.

What a idiotic thing to say, Why should people who modify cars be only allowed to use them on track??

Daaryl

foggy_lad wrote: »

Are those modified cars easy to insure without telling lies to your insurance company? What about passing the NCT? I know of a few around Carlow who have all the original parts and put the car back to the way it should be before going for the NCT. There are also some that use the roads around the town as a testing ground for their uninsured death traps.

Death traps really? The matter of the fact is anybody that is into modding cars keep them up 110% standard and they're more safer then most cars on the road, In fact my bm has got new polybushes, Brand new tires, M3 LSD, New lowering springs, New wishbones and few other bits and bobs, Now what makes that a ball of scrap, And in fact the NCT is a joke anyway! Most people don't declare mods as it's hard to insure certain cars anyway! My insurance is nearly 3k!!

Daaryl

And it passed the NCT first time with all that stuff done to it, So my car is far from a ball of ****!

Zubeneschamali

Daaryl wrote: »

Most people don't declare mods as it's hard to insure certain cars anyway!

The reason it's hard to insure modified cars is that the insurance company have an enormous database on crashes, and they know that modified cars get into more accidents.

So maybe modded cars are less safe on average, or people who drive modded cars are less safe on average.

I think it's both.

Daaryl

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

The reason it's hard to insure modified cars is that the insurance company have an enormous database on crashes, and they know that modified cars get into more accidents.

So maybe modded cars are less safe on average, or people who drive modded cars are less safe on average.

I think it's both.

No.. Not everybody who spends thousands upon thousands on their is going to drive like a asshole, This is the thing people don't realise, You wouldn't put thousands into a car and drive it like a asshole, You'd mind it like a baby, People who buy cheap corollas, civics, golfs etc They're the problem, Not somebody who spends thousands on a car and takes it handy everywhere! It's not just people who drive modified cars are bad drivers.

AndyBoBandy

Daaryl wrote: »

somebody who spends thousands on a car and takes it handy everywhere!

Spends thousands on their car to make it more like a race/track car, drives it around 'handy' everywhere.

Seems Legit.

Daaryl

Andybobandy wrote: »

Spends thousands on their car to make it more like a race/track car, drives it around 'handy' everywhere.

Seems Legit.

You do realise not everybody is like that, There's always going to be a few bad sheeps in everything!!

Zubeneschamali

Daaryl wrote: »

People who buy cheap corollas, civics, golfs etc They're the problem,

The difference between your opinion, my opinion and the insurance companies opinion is that they have the data, and we don't.

They load modified cars. They do not load cheap corollas.

AndyBoBandy

Daaryl wrote: »

You do realise not everybody is like that, There's always going to be a few bad sheeps in everything!!

I would agree,

I would also guess that a higher percentage of modded car drivers drive like idiots compared to the percentage of un-modded car drivers who drive like idiots.

Daaryl

Andybobandy wrote: »

I would agree,

I would also guess that a higher percentage of modded car drivers drive like idiots compared to the percentage of un-modded car drivers who drive like idiots.

Middle aged men in their big audi's, Mercedes, Bmw's that think they own the road are worse!

Tzardine

I have to agree with the op.

I did the whole jap modded car thing about 8 years ago. Had a mint R32 Skyline GTR.

It actually became funny. You would pull up at the lights and everybody had to race you. Lads in other modded cars, reps in audis and lads in their mams Nissan micra

People assume that because you have a quick car you want to race everybody and tear around the place.

jimgoose

I'm a middle-aged duffer with leather elbow-patches, a tweed cap and a big comfy old sofa of a Jag. When I see a slammed and pimped entry-level BMW the tweed cap gets turned backwards and it's the full Fast'n'Furious on his bitch-azz y'all oh hell yeah. :cool:

jimgoose

Tzardine wrote: »

I have to agree with the op.

I did the whole jap modded car thing about 8 years ago. Had a mint R32 Skyline GTR.

It actually became funny. You would pull up at the lights and everybody had to race you. Lads in other modded cars, reps in audis and lads in their mams Nissan micra

People assume that because you have a quick car you want to race everybody and tear around the place.

All BMW drivers are ****, that's a given. Then you have shaven-headed thugs in white T-shirts with bigger tits than their council-estate facelifted girlfriends in 2l diesel Passats and A4s, they're very angry as well for some reason. Anyone in a C-class Merc is going to be dodgy, as they'll have huge inadequacy complexes and possibly abandonment issues. So it really is quite a jungle out there.

Tzardine

jimgoose wrote: »

All BMW drivers are ****, that's a given. Then you have shaven-headed thugs in white T-shirts with bigger tits than their council-estate facelifted girlfriends in 2l diesel Passats and A4s, they're very angry as well for some reason. Anyone in a C-class Merc is going to be dodgy, as they'll have huge inadequacy complexes and possibly abandonment issues. So it really is quite a jungle out there.

Oh dear. I have a c class.

Daddy ! Why did you leave me !!! Was I not a good enough son for you.

jimgoose

Also, feel free to cut out and keep this handy guide to Mercedes-Benz drivers:

10-year-old S-Class: I am bowel-evacuatingly wealthy. Fuck off.
30-year-old S-Class: I am Idi Amin.
10-year-old E-Class: I am an antique dealer and possibly a part-time farmer.
30-year-old E-Class: I am a somewhat down-at-heel aristocrat. Bonus points are awarded for estate models.
10-year-old C-Class: I am a blithering idiot.
30-year-old C-Class: I live on top of a mountain in Mayo. I haven't had a bath since 1987 and recently married one of my goats.

AndyBoBandy

jimgoose wrote: »

10-year-old S-Class: I am bowel-evacuatingly wealthy. Fuck off.
30-year-old S-Class: I am Idi Amin.
10-year-old E-Class: I am an antique dealer and possibly a part-time farmer.
30-year-old E-Class: I am a somewhat down-at-heel aristocrat. Bonus points are awarded for estate models.
10-year-old C-Class: I am a blithering idiot.
30-year-old C-Class: I live on top of a mountain in Mayo. I haven't had a bath since 1987 and recently married one of my goats.

Finally this thread has found it's feet!

Moneymaker

jimgoose wrote: »

Also, feel free to cut out and keep this handy guide to Mercedes-Benz drivers:

10-year-old S-Class: I am bowel-evacuatingly wealthy. Fuck off.
30-year-old S-Class: I am Idi Amin.
10-year-old E-Class: I am an antique dealer and possibly a part-time farmer.
30-year-old E-Class: I am a somewhat down-at-heel aristocrat. Bonus points are awarded for estate models.
10-year-old C-Class: I am a blithering idiot.
30-year-old C-Class: I live on top of a mountain in Mayo. I haven't had a bath since 1987 and recently married one of my goats.

Not gonna lie, I cracked up.

dgt

Thank you for that handy guide.

I have come to the conclusion I am a dodgy idiot, and occasionally a 3rd world dictator

jimgoose

dgt wrote: »

Thank you for that handy guide.

I have come to the conclusion I am a dodgy idiot, and occasionally a 3rd world dictator

Good maun, hi. I was a down-at-heel aristocrat there for a week or so last February. :pac:

jimgoose

Tzardine wrote: »

Oh dear. I have a c class.

Daddy ! Why did you leave me !!! Was I not a good enough son for you.

Hmm. Would you say you were a hill-farmer with an unorthodox view of animal husbandry, or more of a blithering idiot?

bear1

Anyone for some popcorn?

Interslice

djflawless wrote: »

:0 that's a very vw/audi attitude!!
gwan, admit your jealous of lads in sweet looking jap cars
and aren't Scooby doos new Zealand planned and put together in Japan to their specs??

Drunk post makes no sense. I 've a jap car myself sure. Point was that BMW/AUDI drivers seem to think there cars come out of the factory as good as they can get, even in stock paddy spec 318 form.

georgefalls

Daaryl wrote: »

Death traps really? The matter of the fact is anybody that is into modding cars keep them up 110% standard and they're more safer then most cars on the road, In fact my bm has got new polybushes, Brand new tires, M3 LSD, New lowering springs, New wishbones and few other bits and bobs, Now what makes that a ball of scrap, And in fact the NCT is a joke anyway! Most people don't declare mods as it's hard to insure certain cars anyway! My insurance is nearly 3k!!

"modding cars" and "110% standard" aren't they just contradictions of each other..?

Or, am I missing something here..?

Voodoomelon

Have to say if I see a slammed car with lots of useless tack hanging off it, I treat them the same as any Micra or L driver, stay well back.

Daaryl

georgefalls wrote: »

"modding cars" and "110% standard" aren't they just contradictions of each other..?

Or, am I missing something here..?

People who modify cars do it for a hobby right, Now say if something breaks they'll change it asap then most people who leave it on the long finger if you understand me and 90% of the people who modify cars put bigger brakes, better tires etc on their cars.. Changing the smallest thing on your car is called modifying it! So there fore 99% of every car is modified in a way, But you'll prob won't notice it, From changing the tire size for example, Your car comes on 165/55/15 But you change it to 185/55/15 for better grip and better tires that's modifying as you're changing something..

Yorker

Supergurrier wrote: »

I have no problem with those clowns, biggest problem with modified cars in Ireland is not being able to insure them properly.

the clowns are the ones with the big loud exhauts

Sitec

Daaryl wrote: »

People who modify cars do it for a hobby right, Now say if something breaks they'll change it asap then most people who leave it on the long finger if you understand me and 90% of the people who modify cars put bigger brakes, better tires etc on their cars.. Changing the smallest thing on your car is called modifying it! So there fore 99% of every car is modified in a way, But you'll prob won't notice it, From changing the tire size for example, Your car comes on 165/55/15 But you change it to 185/55/15 for better grip and better tires that's modifying as you're changing something..

Oh right, that makes sense alright.

CianRyan

Yorker wrote: »

the clowns are the ones with the big loud exhauts

Lolling as SG's old Focus ST had twin pipes that would wake the dead and you could fit your first in them. :pac:

On a performance car, it's not just loud for the sake of loud. Importing airflow (when done correctly) can improve power and throttle response.

CianRyan

Sitec wrote: »

Oh right, that makes sense alright.

It's true though?

When servicing have you always used OEM, dealer parts?
Nope? After market?

Well I sure hope you've declared that mod.

pablo128

Daaryl wrote: »

Death traps really? The matter of the fact is anybody that is into modding cars keep them up 110% standard and they're more safer then most cars on the road, In fact my bm has got new polybushes, Brand new tires, M3 LSD, New lowering springs, New wishbones and few other bits and bobs, Now what makes that a ball of scrap, And in fact the NCT is a joke anyway! Most people don't declare mods as it's hard to insure certain cars anyway! My insurance is nearly 3k!!

I don't give a hot sh1te really what anyone else drives.(except Renaults, I fcuking hate the things.) But I wish to point a few things out to Daaryl.
1. Lowering springs, but no lowering shocks to match? There's a risk of the spring becoming unseated as it's shorter than original.
2. Polybushes, lowering springs as mentioned, LSD, all help stiffen and tighten everything up, right? Probably handles very well actually. In the dry. The same can't be said in the wet. The stiffer it is, it might initially grip better, but if it lets go, it'll just snap out. And part of the reason the car comes from the factory as it does.
3. Fair play on the new tyres. I won't make assumptions, just to say good branded tyres are worth every penny extra over cheaper brands.

Take all this as constructive criticism, and from someone who knows what they're talking about.

jimgoose

pablo128 wrote: »

...lowering springs as mentioned, LSD, all help stiffen and tighten everything up, right? Probably handles very well actually. In the dry. The same can't be said in the wet. The stiffer it is, it might initially grip better, but if it lets go, it'll just snap out. And part of the reason the car comes from the factory as it does...

What him say. Hint: NSR500.

knifey_spoonie

I find the best way to deal with aggressive drivers is to have enough power to embarrass them in a vehicle that really shouldn't have it, 300hp is a good number to have. So in essence you should lob a M3 engine in.

CianRyan

knifey_spoonie wrote: »

I find the best way to deal with aggressive drivers is to have enough power to embarrass them in a vehicle that really shouldn't have it, 300hp is a good number to have. So in essence you should lob a M3 engine in.

Can this be our new answer to everything?