american pitbull

username1122

hi i want to no where can you by an american pitbull. and is there aney rules or special licences to get 1 thanks

ABajaninCork

It'll be difficult, if not impossible to get one since they are banned in the UK and a controlled breed here. Why do you want one anyway? (being nosy)

See here.

From the website:

Rules relating to certain breeds of dog
The Control of Dogs Regulations 1998 place controls on 10 breeds of dogs namely the American Pit Bull Terrier; English Bull Terrier; Staffordshire Bull Terrier; Bull Mastiff; Doberman Pinscher; German Shepherd (Alsatian); Rhodesian Ridgeback; Rottweiler; Japanese Akita; Japanese Tosa and to every dog of the type commonly known as a Ban Dog (or Bandog).
The controls, which must be observed when the dog is in a public place, require that these dogs, or strains and crosses thereof, must be kept on a strong short lead [only up to 2 metres long] by a person over 16 years of age who is capable of controlling them. The dog/s must be securely muzzled too. Furthermore, the Control of Dogs Act 1986 gives specific powers to the courts to order that a dog, which the court considers dangerous, must be kept under proper control or be destroyed.

username1122

ABajaninCork wrote: »

It'll be difficult, if not impossible to get one since they are banned both here and in the UK. Why do you want one anyway? (being nosy)

because iv been to america and i seen 1 there and i dident no what breed it was so i asked the man and he told me that it was an american pitbull and ever since iv always wanted 1 but iv nevor seen them here. is there a licence that will aloue u to have 1

ABajaninCork

Have a read of the link I posted...

boomerang

They're a lovely breed but expect a lot of negative feedback about your dog wherever you go. I honestly couldn't own a pibble in Ireland because they carry such a stigma. Plus it's so unfair to have to keep a dog muzzled and on lead everytime you step outside your home.

DBB

They're not banned here. They're on the restricted breed list.[edited to add: this comment was in reply to an above comment which has since been edited, that said they were banned here]
OP, I can't tell you where you'd get one, but I would urge you to be terribly, terribly careful who you do go to for one. I've dealt with a few of them that were supposedly well bred and they're, quite frankly, dangerously fearful dogs.
By law, you need to be over 16 and capable of handling the dog safely.
The dog is required to wear an effective muzzle when in a public place.
The dog is required to always be on a lead not exceeding 2m in length when in a public place.
Whether these rules are strictly enforced where you are, I don't know, but many county councils are really starting to knuckle down on restricted breed dogs.
No special license required, just the normal dog license.

Edited to add: here's the legislation specific to restricted breeds:
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1998/en/si/0442.html

mikeyjames9

boomerang wrote: »

They're a lovely breed but expect a lot of negative feedback about your dog wherever you go. I honestly couldn't own a pibble in Ireland because they carry such a stigma. Plus it's so unfair to have to keep a dog muzzled and on lead everytime you step outside your home.

I prefer to see these dogs muzzled myself

endacl

I don't think you're allowed own one if you use textspeak and don't punctuate. Especially when conversing with grownups.

username1122

and why are the looked down on so much in ireland

ABajaninCork

Sadly because breeds like Pitbulls, Staffies, Rottweilers and Dobermanns are often bought by people who have little understanding of the breed, and have neither the time, wit nor patience to bond with their dogs and socialise them properly.

The dogs are just a status symbol to the irresponsible many who spoil it for the few.

username1122

endacl wrote: »

I don't think you're allowed own one if you use textspeak and don't punctuate. Especially when conversing with grownups.

well it says u have to be 16 and i am 16 so i dont see whats your problem its a website for sharing information not for bitching to younger people

DBB

endacl wrote: »

I don't think you're allowed own one if you use textspeak and don't punctuate. Especially when conversing with grownups.

I don't think you're allowed be a grammar nazi either.
But of course you know that, you're here long enough.
Don't reply to this post on thread.
Thanks,
DBB

DBB

username1122 wrote: »

well it says u have to be 16 and i am 16 so i dont see whats your problem its a website for sharing information not for bitching to younger people

OP, use the report function please, don't take matters into your own hands.
On another note, could you stop using text speak please? It's difficult to read and unnecessary on a discussion forum.
Do not reply to this post on thread.
Thanks,
DBB

ABajaninCork

OP - IF you want a Pitbull so badly, you need to do some very careful research. Why do you want a Pitbull? Is it because you genuinely like the breed - Or do you just like the look of them?

Read EVERYTHING you can about the breed. Contact the breed club if you can find one, speak to other owners, go to dog shows (on the off-chance one might be shown).

Choose the puppy carefully. Make sure you see BOTH the sire and the dam. Check out the facilities the dogs are kept in. Ask (and see) if the dogs are well socialised with both other dogs and people.

Hope this helps!

DBB

boomerang wrote: »

pibble

Lol
In my head, that's what I call them too. And I thought I was alone in my oddness

Hachiko

these are awful things, wouldn't mind if they were in any way attractive, even a pug is attractive in an ugly way.

would rather a few tarantulas in the house than a pitbull

username1122

ABajaninCork wrote: »

OP - IF you want a Pitbull so badly, you need to do some very careful research. Why do you want a Pitbull? Is it because you genuinely like the breed - Or do you just like the look of them?

Read EVERYTHING you can about the breed. Contact the breed club if you can find one, speak to other owners, go to dog shows (on the off-chance one might be shown).

Choose the puppy carefully. Make sure you see BOTH the sire and the dam. Check out the facilities the dogs are kept in. Ask (and see) if the dogs are well socialised with both other dogs and people.

Hope this helps!

thanks yes i will do as much resurch as i can for the next year and i will then decide will i go through and by one and yes im really interesten in the breed

username1122

Hachiko wrote: »

these are awful things, wouldn't mind if they were in any way attractive, even a pug is attractive in an ugly way.

would rather a few tarantulas in the house than a pitbull

i surpose everyone has different likes and dislikes

ABajaninCork

I personally don't like or trust the breed. I prefer Dobies and Staffies (proper ones, not Pitbull X's) But hey! That's just me...

John_Rambo

username1122 wrote: »

i am 16

Hi username. Great to see you have an interest in owning a pet. My neighbour had American Bull Dogs and I used to mind his dogs when he was on holiday and he used to mind mine when I was away. So, I have experience with them.

They are incredibly strong, they can be explosive and need serious training from an experienced doggy person, they are clever and you need lots and lots of time together (owner and dog).

They are big and shockingly heavy, lots of muscle and they know how to use it, my neighbour was (and still is!) a 120+ kilo strong man, when one dog alone decided to take a run he'd be on his heels, dragged up a hill. All it took was a cat running across the road.

I walked them (two of them) separately for obvious reasons. I'm very dog savvy and was very aware of their strength and power. Those attributes won't always work with you, a strong headed dog with weight, power and strength behind it can be fairly hard to handle.

I'd say go for it if you have the time (at least five days a week 24/7), you're own place (lots of room, indoors and outdoors), a fairly hefty wage (food, insurance, crate training or destruction money! Proper leads, leashes etc..) and cover for when you want to go away, ie; kennels etc.) I reckon a car change might be a must. A large hatchback at the least, forget about a saloon car, it will be destroyed!

Best of luck. Fantastic dog.

DBB

Hachiko wrote: »

these are awful things, wouldn't mind if they were in any way attractive, even a pug is attractive in an ugly way.

would rather a few tarantulas in the house than a pitbull

If you'd posted this in another forum, fair enough.
But to come onto the Animals and Pets forum and talk about dogs in this way is pretty jaw-dropping.
Do not post in this thread again.
Thanks,
DBB

hidinginthebush

Hachiko wrote: »

these are awful things, wouldn't mind if they were in any way attractive, even a pug is attractive in an ugly way.

would rather a few tarantulas in the house than a pitbull

I had the pleasure of meeting one in the States a few years ago. My cousins roommate had one. Absolutely gorgeous dog, extremely strong, it ran into the room, jumped on top of me and held me down licking my face. Very friendly dog, beautiful animal, changed my warped view of the breed completely.

Sadly over here they're usually a hard man accessory, so they get a bad name. They're becoming more common now though, but OP should ensure they aren't getting a dog that had been brought up the wrong way.

DBB

John_Rambo wrote: »

My neighbour had American Bull Dogs and I used to mind his dogs when he was on holiday and he used to mind mine when I was away. So, I have experience with them.

Whilst I'm pretty sure your description of the American Bulldog is very similar to the American Pit Bull, they're not the same breed, just for clarity's sake
My experience of both is pretty limited, but the Bulldog seems to me to be a little milder mannered. But maybe that's just individual differences in the dogs I've met

username1122

hidinginthebush wrote: »

I had the pleasure of meeting one in the States a few years ago. My cousins roommate had one. Absolutely gorgeous dog, extremely strong, it ran into the room, jumped on top of me and held me down licking my face. Very friendly dog, beautiful animal, changed my warped view of the breed completely.

Sadly over here they're usually a hard man accessory, so they get a bad name. They're becoming more common now though, but OP should ensure they aren't getting a dog that had been brought up the wrong way.

and how do i inshure that the dog has not been brought up the wrong way do i look at the condisions of their kennel and their mother and father and make shure they are registered

hidinginthebush

username1122 wrote: »

and how do i inshure that the dog has not been brought up the wrong way do i look at the condisions of their kennel and their mother and father and make shure they are registered

To be honest someone else will have a better idea on how to tell this. I would be able to hazard a guess, but yeah, setting the mother and father, seeing if they seem aggressive to people or other dogs etc., could be a good start. Someone else will be able to guide you better though. Best of luck!

username1122

thanks everyone who helped me through my query's. i will look forward doing more resurch and making my decision on whether or not I will get an American pitbull

thank you.

ABajaninCork

DBB wrote: »

Whilst I'm pretty sure your description of the American Bulldog is very similar to the American Pit Bull, they're not the same breed, just for clarity's sake
My experience of both is pretty limited, but the Bulldog seems to me to be a little milder mannered. But maybe that's just individual differences in the dogs I've met

American Bulldogs are great dogs! I love their clowny faces which seem to be permanently grinning! There's a family of three we see on our walkies. All of them are as soft as butter, and just love to play. The youngest is about 9 months and has taken a shine to my Shih Tzu. The two of them play away and have great fun. She's a little doll who loves cuddles!

Cherry Blossom

Hi OP, there are shows and pulling competitions for bull breeds that take place although I an not sure when or where. It might be an idea to go along to one of these competitions and talk to owners there about what it's like to own one of these dogs. You won't find them at regular IKC shows as the APBT isn't a recognised breed in Ireland.

Nody

Also keep in mind cost; a pure breed and properly health tested dog is not going to cost you 100 EUR; honestly I'd be surprised if you will not have to pay around 1.000 EUR mark or more and there's likely to be a waiting list as well. Also forget any prices you see on sites such as Donedeal etc. as any puppy/dog from there is way more likely to be poorly bred & socialized (no matter what the add claims about breeding, registration etc.) and with this type of breed that is the last thing you want (the vet costs will be through the roof before we talk about socialization issues, aggression with other people & dogs making the dog hard to walk etc.).

nala2012

It's hard to get a real pitbull in ireland too, a lot of them are crossed with staffs or bulldogs. I know of one gorgeous red nosed pit in rescue. He's a super dog, gets on eith people and other dogs, huge ball drive and so handsome. Problem is soon as people find out he's a pitbull they won't even walk him!

muddypaws

OP, this is an organisation that works hard to promote pitbulls in a positive way, they put events on. http://irelandspitbulls.friendhood.net/forum

They are also on facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Irelands-Pit-Bull-Terrier-Association/264553606918456?fref=ts