Manchester City vs Manchester United 2/11/'14 k/o 1.30pm Sky Mod warning in op

Mr_Red

its amazing how United Fans are criticizing there own team due to Smalling and lack of defence

Then we have City fans criticizing there own team for nearly bottling it the last 15min

Then we have Mr Alan and rarnes1 just here criticizing United when they should be cleaning up their own backyard

Utopia Parkway

[QUOTE=darced;92867976
Maybe it's the poor form of the rivals for fourth saving him but Van gaal has done poorly to this point.[/QUOTE]

I think the pressure would be a lot more only for Liverpool, Everton and Spurs have been struggling for form themselves and Arsenal have been inconsistent as well so it's still quite tight below the top sides.

Timmyctc

Timmyctc wrote: »

Which 3 and what other pen claims did they get? Just because the crowd shouts "Handball" when a ball hits a players midrift or is kicked at a player from point blank range, doesn't mean its a legit pen claim. Augero dived in the 2nd half. Should have won one in the 1st half and Rojo took the ball first, then Touré's inner thigh in a 50/50 challenge for the 2nd.

Fellani on Aguero - dead cert.

Rojo on Toure, dead cert.

Carrick on Aguero - dead cert.

Timmyctc

rarnes1 wrote: »

Fellani on Aguero - dead cert.

Rojo on Toure, dead cert.

Carrick on Aguero - dead cert.

Carrick on Aguero, remind me?

We'll have to agree to disagree on Rojo. I think he won ball through the legs despite being initially unaware of Toure coming over the top of him.

Agree with Fell on Aguero. obv in 1st half.
2nd half was clear dive.

me89

Timmyctc wrote: »

Carrick on Aguero, remind me?

We'll have to agree to disagree on Rojo. I think he won ball through the legs despite being initially unaware of Toure coming over the top of him.

Agree with Fell on Aguero. obv in 1st half.
2nd half was clear dive.

He got nowhere near the ball in fairness. All 3 should have been penalties.

madcabbage

rarnes1 wrote: »

Fellani on Aguero - dead cert.

Rojo on Toure, dead cert.

Carrick on Aguero - dead cert.

Rojo challenge is not a peno in my opinion. Not venting but honestly think if he gets the ball first it's legitimate. Yes he catches Toure on the follow through but he won the ball!!

Timmyctc

Timmyctc wrote: »

Carrick on Aguero, remind me?

We'll have to agree to disagree on Rojo. I think he won ball through the legs despite being initially unaware of Toure coming over the top of him.

Agree with Fell on Aguero. obv in 1st half.
2nd half was clear dive.

2nd half around the hour mark. Both Fellani and Carrick went to tackle him. He was looking for it but was fouled.

Utopia Parkway

Timmyctc wrote: »

Carrick on Aguero, remind me?

The one where he clearly clipped him around the ankle inside the penalty area.

PhlegmyMoses

darced wrote: »

At what point do you start to question them then?
Its amazing what United are now accepting as good enough.

I don't believe for a second that anyone would be happy with or understanding of 14 points from 10 games after the money spent in the summer and looking at the fixtures list .

Maybe it's the poor form of the rivals for fourth saving him but Van gaal has done poorly to this point.

Only looking at money spent is disingenuous. It doesn't factor in the fact that we still need to make further signings in defence, which will happen in the next two windows. It doesn't take into account our ridiculous injury crisis at the back or that 6 new players are bedding in and the whole team is adjusting to new management and ideas. It also doesn't take into account that we were at our lowest ebb in 20 years when he took over and we lost many dressing room leaders this summer.

Lots of variables but the most important thing is that performances are better. We got schooled against City last year. They looked like they were playing a different sport to us. And today, although they deserved their win, we can see the improvement from United. As long as the improvements keep going, I think LVG will ve safe.

Timmyctc

me89 wrote: »

He got nowhere near the ball in fairness. All 3 should have been penalties.

Rojo absolutely kicked the ball. I think the doubt was that people think he came through Touré before making contact with ball.

madcabbage

madcabbage wrote: »

Rojo challenge is not a peno in my opinion. Not venting but honestly think if he gets the ball first it's legitimate. Yes he catches Toure on the follow through but he won the ball!!

A foul can be given even if a touch is made on the ball you know

Timmyctc

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

The one where he clearly clipped him around the ankle inside the penalty area.

I remember that happening with Fell in 1st half. Can't remeber it in 2nd. Do you've a gif handy or anything. Not saying it didnt happen. Mighta missed it just.

Timmyctc

rarnes1 wrote: »

2nd half around the hour mark. Both Fellani and Carrick went to tackle him. He was looking for it but was fouled.

Did he not go down under an arm across him from Fell? That one was a dive. I didn't see Carrick tackle him. Less I missed it just.

madcabbage

rarnes1 wrote: »

A foul can be given even if a touch is made on the ball you know

Ya flying in with studs up I can understand but the rules are ridiculous. Soon enough you won't be allowed to make a tacked at all!! Regardless if he's behund or not he got the ball fairly. Honestly can't see it as a penalty.

PhlegmyMoses

rarnes1 wrote: »

A foul can be given even if a touch is made on the ball you know

But all contact is not a foul. Every tackle involves contact after the fact. It looked clumsy but I don't think it's black and white.

Alfred Borden

United were lucky it wasn't worse had the ref been competent today. Does Di Maria have to take every set piece? That free kick had Robin Van Persies name wrote all over it.

It's debates like this where using gifs is missed

Timmyctc

rarnes1 wrote: »

It's debates like this where using gifs is missed

Are we not allowed gifs?

Bridge93

Did Fellaini spit on Aguero?

Bench Press

Bridge93 wrote: »

Did Fellaini spit on Aguero?

Yea, should have been booked at least

Talib Fiasco

Yeah there are vines of it doing the rounds....very nasty thing to do, should be brought up later

blueser

Bridge93 wrote: »

Did Fellaini spit on Aguero?

Looks like it;



http://www.joe.ie/football/vine-did-marouane-fellaini-spit-at-sergio-aguero-during-first-half-of-manchester-derby/473810

Timmyctc

blueser wrote: »

Looks like it;



http://www.joe.ie/football/vine-did-marouane-fellaini-spit-at-sergio-aguero-during-first-half-of-manchester-derby/473810

Would need to see the whole clp of incident. if he comes over shouting something and slobbered on/near him its a non issue. If he came over and just spat he should get done.

Billy86

Raf32 wrote: »

United were lucky it wasn't worse had the ref been competent today. Does Di Maria have to take every set piece? That free kick had Robin Van Persies name wrote all over it.

To be fair if the ref were competent either Zabaleta gets booked or Smalling stays on, and if Hart gets bare minimum a booking if not a red as well. All of that happened before the penalties if I recall, and obviously then the run of play would have been different before the penalty shouts.

Basically Michael Oliver was horrendous all around, and throughout. Consistently inconsistent on all fronts towards path sides for the full 90 minutes.

Timmyctc

Timmyctc wrote: »

Are we not allowed gifs?

Think they are banned unfortunately

game gifs I mean

Darkglasses

rarnes1 wrote: »

Think they are banned unfortunately

Of match footage they are yeah, PL copyright rules were ramped up this year.

blueser

blueser wrote: »

Looks like it;



http://www.joe.ie/football/vine-did-marouane-fellaini-spit-at-sergio-aguero-during-first-half-of-manchester-derby/473810

I'm not sure he actually spat at him tbf.

SEPT 23 1989

played absolute muck and we still beat them:D

CITY CITY THE BEST TEAM IN THE LAND

blueser

rarnes1 wrote: »

I'm not sure he actually spat at him tbf.

Hence my ''looks like it'' comment, rather than ''yes, he did''. Only Fellaini can honestly answer as to whether he did spit at Kun and, if he did, whether he meant it. From memory, I think he was under suspicion for spitting on Zabba during the 3-0 at OT last March as well.

Talib Fiasco

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

played absolute muck and we still beat them:D

CITY CITY THE BEST TEAM IN THE LAND

Oooh that one is gonna hurt

Timmyctc

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

played absolute muck and we still beat them:D

CITY CITY THE BEST TEAM IN THE LAND

SEPT 23 1989

Timmyctc wrote: »

November

Timmyctc

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

November

Yes. Its November. And Chelsea are ahead of City, the best team in the land

Will I Amnt

City aren't a patch on the team they were last year. Not a hope are they catching Chelsea, they were hanging on at home against a 10 man United that had a right winger, a centre mid and a youth team player in defence.

Trophies aren't handed out in November I've heard in the past. Chelsea are worthy favourites but no reason why City cant string a run of 4/5 wins on the trot

SEPT 23 1989

rarnes1 wrote: »

Trophies aren't handed out in November I've heard in the past. Chelsea are worthy favourites but no reason why City cant string a run of 4/5 wins on the trotcan't wake the fcuk up

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Talib Fiasco

This is bloody bizarre....it's not even Christmas yet. Even speculating the end of the season at the half way point is pretty pointless. For God's sake Chelsea/City could very well end up out of the top 4 who knows.

Will I Amnt

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

This is bloody bizarre....it's not even Christmas yet. Even speculating the end of the season at the half way point is pretty pointless. For God's sake Chelsea/City could very well end up out of the top 4 who knows.

That's my opinion, you can quote me at the end of the season and show me up if I'm wrong. I won't be worrying about that though.

Ordinary man

City could go on a good run and catch up to chelsea. Getting knocked out of europe early every year gives them a less congested run in

Talib Fiasco

Will I Amnt wrote: »

That's my opinion, you can quote me at the end of the season and show me up if I'm wrong. I won't be worrying about that though.

It's not criticising anyone's opinion as such, it's criticising the fact anyone would think making a prediction now is in way reliable. It was around time last year you would have picked Arsenal and Liverpool to win the league before City.

Will I Amnt

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

It was around time last year you would have picked Arsenal and Liverpool to win the league before City.

Never gave Liverpool a chance at this stage myself, not much for Arsenal either. There seems to be a malaise in this City team that was there in the 11/12 season too.
Chelsea aren't for stopping bar a spate of injuries to key players.

Iused2likebusts

Chelsea will win the league at a canter close to double figures. As for the rest all pretty much as bad as each other. Apart from City who will get top 4 after that anything could happen.

blueser

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Never gave Liverpool a chance at this stage myself, not much for Arsenal either. There seems to be a malaise in this City team that was there in the 11/12 season too.
Chelsea aren't for stopping bar a spate of injuries to key players.

Hopefully this season will end up like that one did!

Will I Amnt

blueser wrote: »

Hopefully this season will end up like that one did!

Meant 12/13

fullstop

Bridge93 wrote: »

Did Fellaini spit on Aguero?

Looked like it. Also, did neither team wear poppies today? Spurs not wearing them either and I think Newcastle yesterday. Hopefully it's dying out.

Hidalgo

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Never gave Liverpool a chance at this stage myself, not much for Arsenal either. There seems to be a malaise in this City team that was there in the 11/12 season too.
Chelsea aren't for stopping bar a spate of injuries to key players.

A lenghty injury, even of the 4-6 week variety to Costa would make it interesting. Esp if that happened after Jan

Will I Amnt

fullstop wrote: »

Looked like it.

It didn't really.

fullstop

Will I Amnt wrote: »

It didn't really.

A string of spit came out of his mouth and landed on Aguero. So what does that look like?

PhlegmyMoses

fullstop wrote: »

A string of spit came out of his mouth and landed on Aguero. So what does that look like?

I thought it looked like drool.

Hidalgo

fullstop wrote: »

A string of spit came out of his mouth and landed on Aguero. So what does that look like?

I think he was roaring at Aguero and in his excitement drooled