Match Thread - Newcastle v Liverpool 01/11/14 12.45 BT1

Moreno has been poor

Kerrydude1981

MagicIRL wrote: »

I'm not a Liverpool fan but Robbie Savage needs to shut the **** up about Mario.

If it wasnt so early you could nearly have a drinking game

Everytime Savage mentions something about Ballotelli

Down a Vodka

Sugarlumps

Sums up Lovern's day.

happyoutscan

Moreno again ffs.

Strongbow10

el dude wrote: »

Rodgers needs to come under some pressure now. So many bad calls on his part, hasn't done anything this season to fix the problems in the side. Stinks of arrogance and complacency.

The mind boggles at Liverpool fans on here trying to tell us Gerrard has played well today. he hasn't made a tackle, hasnt controlled the tempo at all. But a few Hollywood balls come off and he's played well apparently.

It's a disgraceful performance. The media witch hunt against Balotelli is unfair but doesn't mean he's actually any use either.

Rodgers will have to come under the spotlight for his lack of ability to organise a defence, it's comical at this stage. So much indiscipline and giving away of needless free kicks.

Gerrard isn't the worst out there today but I still think he is done if we have any ambitions of kicking on another level

LuckyLloyd

el dude wrote: »

Rodgers needs to come under some pressure now. So many bad calls on his part, hasn't done anything this season to fix the problems in the side. Stinks of arrogance and complacency.

The mind boggles at Liverpool fans on here trying to tell us Gerrard has played well today. he hasn't made a tackle, hasnt controlled the tempo at all. But a few Hollywood balls come off and he's played well apparently.

Liverpool have had 65% possession. Some control is being exerted from the midfield.

Turtyturd

el dude wrote: »

Rodgers needs to come under some pressure now. So many bad calls on his part, hasn't done anything this season to fix the problems in the side. Stinks of arrogance and complacency.

The mind boggles at Liverpool fans on here trying to tell us Gerrard has played well today. he hasn't made a tackle, hasnt controlled the tempo at all. But a few Hollywood balls come off and he's played well apparently.

Sentimentality plays a big part for some of the geniuses on the thread.

Super-Rush

Lovern is one useless player.

tastyt

As a Newcastle fan I can't explain it but what a week if we hold on here!!!

And I feel sorry for Mario. Give him a ****ing break!!!

Ranchu

No bite in this Liverpool team.

If Newcastle were playing with 10 men and possibly even 9 as they should be this game would be very different the ref is an absolute joke.

Moneymaker

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Liverpool have had 65% possession. Some control is being exerted from the midfield.

Yet we've had the better chances and deserve the win.

That being said, Janmaat should have been off. That was definitely a red.

Osmosis Jones

Not putting up with this anymore, no one cares

Vicxas

Awful, just pure awful.

Side has no heart at all

MagicIRL

If Mario had a decent #10 behind him you'd be laughing.

LuckyLloyd

Super-Rush wrote: »

Lovern is one useless player.

It's baffling really. Really awful start to his Liverpool career.

super_furry

Marilyn Hissing Cannibal wrote: »

If Newcastle were playing with 10 men and possibly even 9 as they should be this would could be very different the ref is an absolute joke.

That's probably the line Rodgers will hide behind but his side have been awful and have played this way for most of the season.

Strongbow10

Cue Rodgers throwing some players under the bus after this in order to save his own deficiencies from being questioned.

We have done a Spurs with our transfer dealings it's pretty clear

Sugarlumps

Lackadaisical display by Liverpool, something rotten happening. Pardew is Houdini...

LuckyLloyd

Moneymaker wrote: »

Yet we've had the better chances and deserve the win.

That being said, Janmaat should have been off. That was definitely a red.

I'm not saying you don't, but the midfield has established a platform for Liverpool to win from today. That's all and Gerrard is trying where others do not seem to be.

kevohmsford

Newcastle deserved that. Liverpool are in a mess.

RayCon

Strongbow10 wrote: »

Cue Rodgers throwing some players under the bus after this in order to save his own deficiencies from being questioned.

This 100% ...

Alfred Borden

Did Suarez hide Rodgers deficiencies as a manager? I thought he was a genius last year but has been awful this year. Hiding behind the criticism of Balo who has not been as bad as made out by the media.

LuckyLloyd

Nice one for the Newcastle fans on here. The lack of a sending off aside, can't really complain tbh. Well done.

kevohmsford

kevohmsford wrote: »

Newcastle deserved that. Liverpool are in a mess.

They didn't really, some disgusting tackles and players not punished Liverpool deserved to win that game.

Mario worked his socks off today yet I'm sure there are plenty here who will be blind to that.

Timmyctc

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I'm not saying you don't, but the midfield has established a platform for Liverpool to win from today. That's all and Gerrard is trying where others do not seem to be.

LIverpool's midfield were shocking. Gerrard sitting deep and trying his hollywood passes isn't giving the striking options anything to work with. I have no idea what Rodgers is attempting to do with his wingbacks either. Sterling and Balo wasted in that team.

ctrl-alt-delete

Great win for Newcastle, can't say they were particularily good but Liverpool made it easy for them.

Liverpool were just slow and sluggish, poor at the basics and there was no hunger or drive on the pitch.

Pardew's substitutes were effective, Rodgers' not so, and that was the difference in the end.

Timmyctc

Marilyn Hissing Cannibal wrote: »

They didn't really, some disgusting tackles and players not punished Liverpool deserved to win that game.

Yes. The team who played better and scored more deserved to lose in favour of the team who didn't have one good scoring chance all game. Top quality logic sir.

Dcully

Sad to say a sub par Gerrard was our best player,a guy in his mid thirties ffs.
Definite concerns about Rodgers buys now but more than anything and the most worrying is the absolute lack of desire from all bar Gerrard,surely Rodgers should be responsible for not sending out his players with some fire in their bellies.
Lethargic,passive, pathetic performance allround.

bennyl10

Massive what difference one year can, Liverpool just look clueless.. Rodgers really need,to change something big time..
This week coming, if he doesn't change anything, will be demolition central.

Savage though, even as a united fan, is just painful.. Ballotelli could just do absolutely nothing without a stupid comment..

Sanity_Saviour

Questions have to be asked now, it's bizarre how a manager can spend £120 million and turn a title runners up side into a mediocre mid-table side. Balotelli is a joke at this stage.

After last season's blip it seems Liverpool have found their level.

Fair play to Newcastle though, a good performance, I thought Cabella was very impressive today, if Pardew can beat the teams immediately above them, he can keep them up.

niallo27

Timmyctc wrote: »

Yes. The team who played better and scored more deserved to lose in favour of the team who didn't have one good scoring chance all game. Top quality logic sir.

Neither team deserved to win it. They were both ****e.

Great result. Get In. Got newcastle @ 2/1

baldbear

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

It's baffling really. Really awful start to his Liverpool career.

He had a decent season at Southampton and before that he had a average season in France. Hes just not good enough in a team aiming to compete at the top. We overpaid for a average player. Great business for Southampton.

Backstreet Moyes

Getting Sturridge and Lallana into the team will make a huge difference. I am puzzled with Sterling he was devastating through the middle and now he is instructed to stay wide.

Adamocovic

That's football for ya, most fans calling for his head and the team goes on to beat Spurs, Pool and City. Top ten in the table now. Great result for them and happy for Pardew .

Adamocovic

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Great result. Get In. Got newcastle @ 2/1

Got them at 11/4 myself, now for Stoke and Southampton to do me a solid and it will be a happy weekend :P

Timmyctc

niallo27 wrote: »

Neither team deserved to win it. They were both ****e.

The team who scored more deserved to win it. Heck, they even earned that victory. What with scoring more goals.

donfers

Newcastle should have had two reds but regardless it's a very limited magpies side and they should really have been put to the sword

Liverpool signings yet again looking likely to be flogs, what people sometimes fail to realise is he signed a lot of duds last season too but got away with it because of S/S/S - in recent times our transfer policy has been relatively immune from criticism because of the bargain buys that were Coutinho and Sturridge but since then we've signed about 15 and 10-12 of them have made little or no impact. Rodgers has to take responsibility for that.

An absolutely dreadful performance, we have failed to score in 4 of our last 5 and worryingly are not even creating changes against average sides like Hull and Newcastle.

Oh well Real Madrid and Chelsea next, looks like this season will be a repetition of the pattern of title bid followed by nosedive as per 2002 and 2008

niallo27

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Great result. Get In. Got newcastle @ 2/1

2/1 was a shocking price. They were nearly 3/1 on the exchange.

Adamocovic

Adamocovic wrote: »

Got them at 11/4 myself, now for Stoke and Southampton to do me a solid and it will be a happy weekend :P

I'm waiting on Everton, West Ham, West Brom on a trixie bet with teh above...come on

niallo27

Timmyctc wrote: »

The team who scored more deserved to win it. Heck, they even earned that victory. What with scoring more goals.

Is it that simple though. You don't always get what you deserve.

niallo27

niallo27 wrote: »

2/1 was a shocking price. They were nearly 3/1 on the exchange.

Missed that, ah well if the trixe comes in happy out. That's an if though...

shano_88

niallo27 wrote: »

Neither team deserved to win it. They were both ****e.

Newcastle clearly deserved the win. Can't think of any clear cut chance Liverpool created all game.

Sanity_Saviour

niallo27 wrote: »

Is it that simple though. You don't always get what you deserve.

think it is you have to score goals to win games, there's no such thing as "deserving" points

niallo27

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Missed that, ah well if the trixe comes in happy out. That's an if though...

There is money to be made on laying liverpool this season it pains me to say.

niallo27

shano_88 wrote: »

Newcastle clearly deserved the win. Can't think of any clear cut chance Liverpool created all game.

Skrtel had a great chance with a header and should have scored. What chances did Newcastle create. The goal was a mistake. The game was so poor neither team deserved anything.

Timmyctc

niallo27 wrote: »

Is it that simple though. You don't always get what you deserve.

No point arguing semantics really. Newcastle earned a victory. They created more clear cut chances. Could've had 2 or 3 if they were clinical. Liverpool could still be out there now and for another hour and stuggle to create a clear cut chance, such is the day they are having.

niallo27

Sanity_Saviour wrote: »

think it is you have to score goals to win games, there's no such thing as "deserving" points

The original post said Newcastle deserved the 3 points. Are people honestly saying Newcastle played well today.

niallo27

Timmyctc wrote: »

No point arguing semantics really. Newcastle earned a victory. They created more clear cut chances. Could've had 2 or 3 if they were clinical. Liverpool could still be out there now and for another hour and stuggle to create a clear cut chance, such is the day they are having.

What chances did they create. Neither keeper made a save in the first half.