Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

SlickRic

if the rumoured team is correct, that means that Rodgers has dropped Lovren, Gerrard, Sterling and Balotelli for the game.

tell me what the mindset is for the game, eh?

yeah, yeah...Chelsea at the weekend, blah blah. couldn't give a shíte. a good performance would give the legs all the energy they need for the weekend.

J Mysterio

Hard to pick a team for it. I definitely want Lucas back in the team and am desperate for 2 strikers.

Johnson . Skrtel . Lovren . Moreno

......... Henderson .... Lucas .............
Lallana ..............................Coutinho

......... Balotelli ......... Borini ...........

K-9

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

In Rafa's last season we were minutes in extra time from a European final.

Minutes doesn't cut it! Grand at the time but a Europa Cup Semi Final (which we got to because we failed poorly in the CL) is hardly worth crowing about 5 years later. Same if we nearly get to a League Cup final this year, we'll hardly fondly remember it in 2020.

With regards to the last bit, everything that was so good about us last season has been absent thus far this season. It's like the first half of 2012 / 13 all over again. Wouldn't you agree? It's concerning, it needs to change.

Well that's where everybody is agreed, you seem to have no faith in Rodgers whatsoever.

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

That's basically what I'm saying.

You'd swear we were a midtable club who had won the FA Cup to get in or something the way some people are going on. We shipped the first three goal defeat in Europe since the Evans era in our last game!! And that's okay? Baffling.

People call Gerrard the weak link all this season, first time he gets dropped.................

Lambert is a bit of a joke tbh, I suspect Rodgers wants somebody who'll compete and get some success at holding the ball up. I'd have went Borini myself.

Francie Barrett

Lads, until you see the actual team, then please don't be engaging in the self-righteous indignation just yet.

Nerdlingr

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The concern is that Real play a reserve knockabout side against Ludogorets on the final night, luckily the game is in the Berniebow so the home crowd will demand a good show.

Yeah we need Madrid to whitewash the group for it to happen.

5live

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Lads, until you see the actual team, then please don't be engaging in the self-righteous indignation just yet.

But but but but it was on Twitter so it must be true

citytillidie

There was also the footballing lesson Liverpool where handed by Valencia that same season the lost to Celtic at home.

Also the shambles V Fiorentina in 2009.

They may not have been 3 goals but they were worse the being beating by the current European champions who are on a stunning run of form in Europe

Harry Palmr

U19s Real 1 - 0 Liverpool

All coming from a very sloppy piece of ball playing in defence.

Raif Severance

The Wall didn't Jump. Are you kidding me?

Gbear

SlickRic wrote: »

unfortunately, that team screams to me that Rodgers is open to taking a humbling.

Even if that is the team, it's not like any of those dropped would've definitively staked a claim for starting spot.

I think some criticism for some of the players has been harsh, but virtually none of them have actually been any good either.


We've been crying out for Rodgers to try something different.

May as well do it tonight. We've nothing to lose.

MD1990

According to Balague the team will be

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Mignolet

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Manquillo---Skrtel--Toure--Moreno

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Lucas

---

---

Allen

---

Can

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Markovic----Borini

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Lallana

http://as.com/diarioas/2014/11/04/english/1415113971_953576.html

5live

Gbear wrote: »

Even if that is the team, it's not like any of those dropped would've definitively staked a claim for starting spot.

I think some criticism for some of the players has been harsh, but virtually none of them have actually been any good either.


We've been crying out for Rodgers to try something different.

May as well do it tonight. We've nothing to lose.

Yup, what Rodgers has been doing so far this season simply hasn't worked. Surely Rodgers himself can see that!

Just thinking back to the last meeting with Real Madrid when they called our tactics 'sh!t on a stick'. I wonder what they will call our tactics this time:D

NEDDURC

Real are lethal on the break. If Liverpool try to attack too much it'll be like rope a dope tonight.

They've got to set up as solid as possible. Try to keep possession in a controlled patient way. Full backs can't push on too much tonight and if they do they'll need mid players to cover them. Nil nil would be an excellent result as it would show the team can be disciplined in defence and they'll probably need to play a similar way against Chelsea too.

NEDDURC

MD1990 wrote: »

According to Balague the team will be

---

Mignolet

---

Manquillo---Skrtel--Toure--Moreno

---

Lucas

---

---

Allen

---

Can

---

Markovic----Borini

---

Lallana

http://as.com/diarioas/2014/11/04/english/1415113971_953576.html

Happy enough with that. All willing to work and looks quite solid in the middle where Real are strong.
If nil nil at 70 minutes, Sterling might be able to make a difference at that stage.

SlickRic

Borini makes far more sense.

putting Lambert up there on his own is just putting a slower, less technical version of Balotelli up there, and we'll have the same problems as we have had.

Harry Palmr

Liverpools midfield are still in the clouds in the U19s game

super_furry

Why the **** was Lambert signed in the first place?

OwaynOTT

MD1990 wrote: »

I think Lloyd is going a bit Pilsbury Doughboy but I get why he is very annoyed tbh. If the team for tonight is as expected weakened & basically expecting defeat it is very disapointing mindset. We know Real are a great team but Man Utd drew with Bayern last year at home. Its a one off game & we should be playing our best team & be determined to try & make amends for the first game.

I'd love it, if people would stop using me as an example of a poster that frequently loses the run of himself/herself.
I really think the edit I've done to your post is a much more acceptable adjective.
Damn that Pilsbury Doughboy!:pac:

Gbear

super_furry wrote: »

Why the **** was Lambert signed in the first place?

Sub, emergency backup, the cups?

rob316

MD1990 wrote: »

According to Balague the team will be

---

Mignolet

---

Manquillo---Skrtel--Toure--Moreno

---

Lucas

---

---

Allen

---

Can

---

Markovic----Borini

---

Lallana

http://as.com/diarioas/2014/11/04/english/1415113971_953576.html

Says to me Rodgers has a game plan, not that ****e formation he has persisted with all season. You will get some work rate from Lallana, Borini, Allen, Can and Lucas.

Should be interesting if anything tonight.

SlickRic

super_furry wrote: »

Why the **** was Lambert signed in the first place?

an alternative way of playing should we need a target man.

the problem is Balotelli is a better version of Lambert, and for some reason, Mario was the best deal we could do in the transfer window.

this means Lambert's opportunities have decreased significantly.

i don't think Rodgers ever thought we'd have to play the way we are at the moment - essentially starting every game with a target man. that was going to be a secondary option.

OwaynOTT

super_furry wrote: »

Why the **** was Lambert signed in the first place?

We had a 20% percentage of future sales clause as part of his release from the club all those years ago.
Southampton were willing to let him go a nominal sum but we say 'no way', as we didn't want to lose out on a bumper pay day due to the clause, so we paid the 3 million to get our bit back. Smart business there.

Thud

super_furry wrote: »

Why the **** was Lambert signed in the first place?

I think if he'd been given the amount of game time Balotelli has gotten he'd have scored a few by now, most of his sub appearances are when we're stuggling to make anything happen and he's the last ditch option....hardly going to inspire his confidence

Nerdlingr

super_furry wrote: »

Why the **** was Lambert signed in the first place?

Filler.

LuckyLloyd

K-9 wrote: »

Minutes doesn't cut it! Grand at the time but a Europa Cup Semi Final (which we got to because we failed poorly in the CL) is hardly worth crowing about 5 years later. Same if we nearly get to a League Cup final this year, we'll hardly fondly remember it in 2020.

'Crowing about'? No. But an indication that we remained solid in European Competition. Babel got us the goal in Lyon that would have been good enough to see us through and we conceded two minutes later - just didn't hang on. It was the nature of the year that was in it. But when we did parachute into the Europa League we set about winning it, as per the expectations of the club in European competition.

Well that's where everybody is agreed, you seem to have no faith in Rodgers whatsoever.

Perform, win games. I am concerned at what is happening sans Suarez.

People call Gerrard the weak link all this season, first time he gets dropped.................

Lambert is a bit of a joke tbh, I suspect Rodgers wants somebody who'll compete and get some success at holding the ball up. I'd have went Borini myself.

I haven't been calling Gerrard the weak link.

We should be putting our best foot forward tonight. If the manager needs to drop Gerrard because he thinks our tactical best foot forward doesn't involve him so be it. But ringing in the changes generally smacks of not giving it our all...

Harry Palmr

GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOI

Brannagan

Raif Severance

Brannigan.

Harry Palmr

Should be two Wilson a great chance he overplayed

MR NINE

If that ballague team is correct, im fine with that tbh. The only player id have doubts about is markovic, his confidence is low, playing him in a defensive side at the bernabeu probably isnt gonna help. Though I guess he does seem fairly disciplined on the defensive side of things and has pace which could be useful if we ever get the ball in their half. Borini and lallana makes perfect sense, as does the midfield three imo. More disciplined than gerrard and henderson who could both do with a rest anyway, they havent been playing very well lately

Raif Severance

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Should be two Wilson a great chance he overplayed

Should have Hit it, 1st Time.

Francie Barrett

I would be absolutely shocked if we started with Kolo and Markovic.

Raif Severance

Some of our Passes... they're not even Close.

Harry Palmr

HT 1-1

Liverpool dominated by Madrid for the first 20 minutes or so, but they've turned it round and have had more clear chances on goal, but for a few passes they'd be two up.

MR NINE

I wouldnt be too surprised by kolo starting. He knows how to defend, im not sure anyone else in our squad does. Though the thought of ronaldo or bale getting 1v1 with him is hilariously terrifying

mikeym

New LFCTV channel out today not paying €9 a month for it.

Supporters not customers, we are already forking enough for Sky Sports and Bt.

Raif Severance

Kent left his Shooting Boots at Home.

Raif Severance

Jesus, it should have been 4-1 to us.

Harry Palmr

OMG what a missed chance - Liverpool are all over Madrid should be 3-1 at least.

rob316

mikeym wrote: »

New LFCTV channel out today not paying €9 a month for it.

Supporters not customers, we are already forking enough for Sky Sports and Bt.

The content quality is dire on the current one, it would seriously want to improve for €9 per month. Barely watch it anyway so no problem to me.

BenEadir

What channel is the U21 match on lads?

Harry Palmr

Eurosport 72 mins gone 1-1

Iang87

Sorry lads, completely off topic. I'm looking at going to the QPR game in May and can get tickets now. I'm using the guy a friend uses all the time for tickets and he's saying they're 95 euro. Is this the going rate these days. I havent been over since 09 or 10

BenEadir

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Eurosport 72 mins gone 1-1

Cheers

willowthewisp

mikeym wrote: »

New LFCTV channel out today not paying €9 a month for it.

Supporters not customers, we are already forking enough for Sky Sports and Bt.

Is it available on UPC?

Raif Severance

F@cking Hell.

The RB Pussyfooted, and we got Punished for it.

Dickerty

Raif Severance wrote: »

F@cking Hell.

The RB Pussyfooted, and we got Punished for it.

Did we concede?

Nerdlingr

3-1 now. Peno. Rossiter lucky to be still on the pitch.

Raif Severance

Dickerty wrote: »

Did we concede?

Yup. Looks like an OG.

Rossiter gave a Pen too. So it's 3-1 to them.

Harry Palmr

Ah well, LFC kids usually take their chances but not today.

Utopia Parkway

Gerrard, Sterling, Ballotelli, Lovren and Johnson all expected not to start the game.