Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

Kerrigooney

I don't even know what it means. Boards is the only place I've ever seen it used. What does it mean?

googled eyes

Kerrigooney wrote: »

I don't even know what it means. Boards is the only place I've ever seen it used. What does it mean?

whataboutery
/ˌwɑːtəˈbaʊtərɪ/
noun
1.
(of two communities in conflict) the practice of repeatedly blaming the other side and referring to events from the past

Kerrigooney

googled eyes wrote: »

Ah right...thanks. Now where have I seen that used lately?

Agent Coulson

Liverpool have been given a boost in their pursuit of Porto striker Jackson Martinez after the player's agent confirmed AC Milan have been priced out of a deal.

Martinez has been in brilliant form for Porto this season, scoring 14 goals in just 18 appearances in all competitions.

Since moving to Portugal in 2012, the 28-year-old has netted 74 times in 109 appearances and that has reportedly attracted the interest of several clubs in Europe.

Liverpool are thought to be keen on the Colombia international, while Arsenal also made tentative enquires last summer.

However, one club who are now out of the running are AC Milan after Martinez's agent Peppino Tirri revealed they cannot afford the striker.

"I think it's very difficult [for AC Milan]. Porto want the release clause to be paid (£28m) and they don't intend to budge," Tirri told Calcio News.

"I can confirm that Liverpool want the player."

http://talksport.com/football/liverpool-handed-boost-martinez-pursuit-141205127674

googled eyes

Ah right...thanks. Now where have I seen that used lately?
__________________

There's a whole thread of the bullsheeeeeet round here somewhere.

rob316

28m is cheap for someone with his goalscoring record.

Agent Coulson

He's a bit like Arda we get linked to him every window.

Now if we had a spare £50m lying around I would myself go and buy Jackson and Arda.

But that's just me.

~Rebel~

Agent Coulson wrote: »

He's a bit like Arda we get linked to him every window.

Now if we had a spare £50m lying around I would myself go and buy Jackson and Arda.

But that's just me.

So annoying that before each of their last moves, we were heavily linked, but didn't pull the trigger - both would have been easily affordable at the respective times too.

Chucky the tree

Agent Coulson wrote: »

http://talksport.com/football/liverpool-handed-boost-martinez-pursuit-141205127674

Tirri isn't Martinez agent. He's just an agent Porto have used before.

klose

https://twitter.com/sheyi_ojo/status/540993624419631105


Paging harry palmr

5starpool

klose wrote: »

https://twitter.com/sheyi_ojo/status/540993624419631105


Paging harry palmr

He travelled with the squad to Leicester as well. I'd love to see the likes of him make the bench but I don't think he will.

Harry Palmr

U 18s v Man Utd ends in shock 0-0 scoreline.

Its interesting how certain players are given a little bit of a boost by being included in the first team squad for a few games I reckon we will see Ojo for the League Cup tie (but on the bench)

5live

Agent Coulson wrote: »

He's a bit like Arda we get linked to him every window.

Now if we had a spare £50m lying around I would myself go and buy Jackson and Arda.

But that's just me.

Did ya check behind the cushions on the couch yet?

Agent Coulson

5live wrote: »

Did ya check behind the cushions on the couch yet?

Just off to check my euro millions ticket

Turtyturd

Jackson Martinez is 28???

F*ck that, give us 3 lads who were decent in the Barca B team

Hidalgo

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Tirri isn't Martinez agent. He's just an agent Porto have used before.

Ya anothet article names his agent as Henrique Pompeu.

Don't see Liverpool shelling out a fee like that in January after what was spent last summer

MD1990

Harry Palmr wrote: »

U 18s v Man Utd ends in shock 0-0 scoreline.

Its interesting how certain players are given a little bit of a boost by being included in the first team squad for a few games I reckon we will see Ojo for the League Cup tie (but on the bench)

Nothing to get moist about so:p

hefferboi

Looking at January, we need one prolific striker and one excellent, proven centre mid/defensive mid.

As far as strikers go, who's out there that we can afford, would come to us and would suit the way we play. Not a lot of names I can come up with, and even less who wouldn't be cup tied in the CL. Here's a list of all I can think of anyway.

Jackson Martinez, Milik, Doumbia, Luiz Adriano, Lacazette and Berahino.

All having superb seasons so far. Adriano and Doumbia are probably on ridiculous wages, though, Berahino would cost an arm and a leg and Milik hasn't proven himself as much as the rest. I'd be inclined to go for either Lacazette or Martinez in that instince.

Martinez has looked the real deal since moving to Porto and Lacazette is starting to show serious promise and a goalscoring threat this season. Its a tough one as Lacazette has youth on his side.

What do people think?

5starpool

I can't imagine us signing anyone for any type of significant money in January. Perhaps if we are right up there close to 4th we might as part of a push to keep us up there but even then I doubt it.

OwaynOTT

Knex. wrote: »

What about it?

The way it isn't spelt with 2 bs. So it doesn't have bb in it and it can't remind me of muffins.

Knex*

OwaynOTT wrote: »

The way it isn't spelt with 2 bs. So it doesn't have bb in it and it can't remind me of muffins.

As valid a reason as any, good Sir.

klose

I'd be pretty surprised if we signed anyone of note in January as funds could be tight, I would also wonder if Fsg trust Rodgers with buying players at this rate. If i were them I'd be looking at our supposed leader Lovren for 20 million who looks as bad a defender we've had in years. Our two new full backs seem to be rotated heavily, can barely plays. Lallana plays every 2nd game. Markovic at 20 mill with zero impact, Balo looking a square peg in a round hole.
Basically over 100 million spent, defence worse than ever and what, 7 goals combined in all competitions from our new players? Personally couldn't blame Fsg if they don't solely trust Rodgers with money at this rate.

I'd like to see Lovren operate while Lucas is DM and beside someone other than Skrtel. He didn't turn to dung overnight.

Soft Falling Rain

We need a goalkeeper in January. After that a striker. Then a midfielder. That's how I prioritise things.

8-10

hefferboi wrote: »

Looking at January, we need one prolific striker and one excellent, proven centre mid/defensive mid.

As far as strikers go, who's out there that we can afford, would come to us and would suit the way we play. Not a lot of names I can come up with, and even less who wouldn't be cup tied in the CL. Here's a list of all I can think of anyway.

Jackson Martinez, Milik, Doumbia, Luiz Adriano, Lacazette and Berahino.

All having superb seasons so far. Adriano and Doumbia are probably on ridiculous wages, though, Berahino would cost an arm and a leg and Milik hasn't proven himself as much as the rest. I'd be inclined to go for either Lacazette or Martinez in that instince.

Martinez has looked the real deal since moving to Porto and Lacazette is starting to show serious promise and a goalscoring threat this season. Its a tough one as Lacazette has youth on his side.

What do people think?

Out of that list id want Martinez first followed by Adriano. Both would score goals.

Fowler87

rarnes1 wrote: »

I'd like to see Lovren operate while Lucas is DM and beside someone other than Skrtel. He didn't turn to dung overnight.

Maybe but he has to earn his place now. Defence looks alot more solid without him. Remember Sakho to come back too, at least competition for CB positions will be there finally

Augmerson

Was talking to a scout from Scunthorpe United last night.....finger on the pulse of football lads, in the know and all that so I am.

smileyj1987

klose wrote: »

I'd be pretty surprised if we signed anyone of note in January as funds could be tight, I would also wonder if Fsg trust Rodgers with buying players at this rate. If i were them I'd be looking at our supposed leader Lovren for 20 million who looks as bad a defender we've had in years. Our two new full backs seem to be rotated heavily, can barely plays. Lallana plays every 2nd game. Markovic at 20 mill with zero impact, Balo looking a square peg in a round hole.
Basically over 100 million spent, defence worse than ever and what, 7 goals combined in all competitions from our new players? Personally couldn't blame Fsg if they don't solely trust Rodgers with money at this rate.

Isn't there a transfer commitee in place ? So they do all have to agree on a player . Maybe it's time to let the manager have full say and no one else .

googled eyes

https://twitter.com/Liddellpool/status/541151624774057984

Jaysis

gafferino

googled eyes wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Liddellpool/status/541151624774057984

Jaysis

Ah my eyes!

gafferino

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

We need a goalkeeper in January. After that a striker. Then a midfielder. That's how I prioritise things.

I'd be putting striker first on that list tbh.

garra

googled eyes wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Liddellpool/status/541151624774057984

Jaysis

Jaysus is right, looks like a golfing polo shirt

Pulsating Star

New shirt designer just jumped to the top of the list!

Wuss united girlie men outfits.

stampydmonkey

garra wrote: »

Jaysus is right, looks like a golfing polo shirt

I see that for sale in tk maxx for a 10er in a years time....we are absolutely gone to the dogs

Soft Falling Rain

gafferino wrote: »

I'd be putting striker first on that list tbh.

I genuinely think a proper keeper will do wonders for the entire defence. I don't mean some has been like Valdes either.

Dayum

The Liverpool kits are awful.

Maybe the designers have become depressed with the results.

Charlie19

That jersey looks like something you would see in Jonesborough market back in the late 90s.

There is no way it will be an official strip.

Charlie19

How many of these has been down to Mig? To think he's got away with a couple too.

garra

Charlie19 wrote: »

How many of these has been down to Mig? To think he's got away with a couple too.

Most notably last Tuesday's pass to Cambiasso - a gift of an open goal and head start in the game. I do think the defenders need to take some responsibility as well and stop passing the ball back to him under the tiniest bit of pressing. At least with Lambert on the pitch they can lump it and he might hold it up.

Charlie19

garra wrote: »

Most notably last Tuesday's pass to Cambiasso - a gift of an open goal and head start in the game. I do think the defenders need to take some responsibility as well and stop passing the ball back to him under the tiniest bit of pressing. At least with Lambert on the pitch they can lump it and he might hold it up.

The play from the back routine has to take a back seat at times and just play it simple, Its great and all working from back to the front but it cant be done all the time. Like you say, just hoof it up field when in doubt.

ush

Mignolet is going to get caught doing one of those Cruyff turns.

5starpool

That jersey is the worst I've seen from a Liverpool top, and I absolutely hated the big white V neck ones that Collymore, Fowler etc wore around 20 years ago.

Charlie19

Martin Skrtel to become the 12th Liverpool to player to make 200 PL appearances for the club if he starts today.

Lucas is 10 appearances off Skrtel.

Kerrigooney

Charlie19 wrote: »

That jersey looks like something you would see in Jonesborough market back in the late 90s.

There is no way it will be an official strip.

Happens every year...ridiculous looking jersey is 'leaked' and the actual jersey looks nothing like it.

Charlie19

Yup it obviously a fake and probably put together by someone's granny.

mada999

googled eyes wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Liddellpool/status/541151624774057984

Jaysis

grim... *shudder*

klose

googled eyes wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Liddellpool/status/541151624774057984

Jaysis

No wonder gerrard is considering leaving

brevity

Were a load of posts deleted or something?

Vicxas

klose wrote: »

No wonder gerrard is considering leaving

It cant be that bad. Just can't.

punk_one82

klose wrote: »

I'd be pretty surprised if we signed anyone of note in January as funds could be tight, I would also wonder if Fsg trust Rodgers with buying players at this rate. If i were them I'd be looking at our supposed leader Lovren for 20 million who looks as bad a defender we've had in years. Our two new full backs seem to be rotated heavily, can barely plays. Lallana plays every 2nd game. Markovic at 20 mill with zero impact, Balo looking a square peg in a round hole.
Basically over 100 million spent, defence worse than ever and what, 7 goals combined in all competitions from our new players? Personally couldn't blame Fsg if they don't solely trust Rodgers with money at this rate.

There are so many things wrong with this post it's insane. Our two young fullbacks who are rotated frequently? A young CM rotated frequently? A 20 year old who is supposedly a very good player with zero impact? Balotelli being forced to play a role he's not used to? Are you the kind of person who expects every single decision to have an immediate impact and anything short of your unreasonable expectations is deemed a failure? Manquillo and Moreno are good players with a bright future, Can looks a decent player, we already know Lallana is a decent player. Markovic has a lot to prove but it seems like you're writing him off already. Everyone knows Balotelli can produce but he's being asked to play where he's not comfortable. Get a grip.