Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

Sir Gallagher

greendom wrote: »

yes, and our stadium - you win, you'll be able to get the likes of Sanchez who didn't fancy it up North!

That is abysmal.

niallo27

Augmerson wrote: »

I think top 4 still have a place and EL gets you a 5th?

Dunno what'll happen if one of the remaining english clubs win CL though. I might be wrong about it all.

No I mean if a top 4 wins the Europa but has already qualified does that space go somewhere else like the losers.

bad2dabone

niallo27 wrote: »

No I mean if a top 4 wins the Europa but has already qualified does that space go somewhere else like the losers.

Good question, I'd imagine that England has three spots and the qualification spot, if a top four side win the Europa, unlikely this season, I'd imagine that the qualification spot would go to the team in fifth. Spurs or Everton maybe.

~Rebel~

Hidalgo wrote: »

The quote about how dangerous a team can be when breaking in unison is the stand-out point for me. That was possibly Liverpool's greatest strength last season, now the ability to break at speed seems near impossible to do so. Makes life a heck of a lot easier for opposition defences

Largely why I want Coutinho playing pretty much every game. Even when his playmaking isn't up to scratch, his movement and speed still cause more problems than almost anyone else we have.

I hope we start seeing a bit more of Markovic in the coming weeks and months. Just the option of his pace forces defenses to act differently and back off.

8-10

As far as I can tell we have the chance to relieve old glories with Borussia Monchengladbach and Club Brugge possibly opponents in last 32 draw on Monday. Also Benitez's Napoli if they top the group

Talisman

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Too right. No rush to get it done.

The club had the same attitude towards Gerrard and almost lost him to Chelsea TWICE. Sterling doesn't have the same ties to Liverpool as Gerrard so is never likely to have an 11th hour change of heart and decide to stick with the club.

Talisman

Suarezistheman wrote: »

I remember one year under Houillier we went to OT in horrendus form and Danny Murphy looped one into the top corner for the win.

The difference being Houllier could setup a team to defend as a unit so stealing a victory was a possibility.

5starpool

niallo27 wrote: »

No I mean if a top 4 wins the Europa but has already qualified does that space go somewhere else like the losers.

bad2dabone wrote: »

Good question, I'd imagine that England has three spots and the qualification spot, if a top four side win the Europa, unlikely this season, I'd imagine that the qualification spot would go to the team in fifth. Spurs or Everton maybe.

I'm pretty sure I read that the spot just gets allocated in the way it did up until now. The only way England would get an extra spot is if an English team wins the CL or EL and finish outside the top 4. I'm pretty sure the EL runners up don't inherit the spot either.

Augmerson

When is Flanagan back? We could do with him.

cj maxx

Bugged me all day but why was markovic sent off ?

klose

cjmc wrote: »

Bugged me all day but why was markovic sent off ?

A failed attempt at fending off a player and his hand went across the basels player face giving his nose the slightest of tickles which he then collapsed on the ground for.

Agent Coulson

We are going to draw Napoli in the E.L. aren't we.


Rodgers vs Rafa that might need a thread of it's own for some.

Washington Irving

Agent Coulson wrote: »

We are going to draw Napoli in the E.L. aren't we.


Rodgers vs Rafa that might need a thread of it's own for some.

Rafa the opposing manager for the first leg and our manager for the second

5live

klose wrote: »

A failed attempt at fending off a player and his hand went across the basels player face giving his nose the slightest of tickles which he then collapsed on the ground for.

I wouldn't mind but Markovic was looking good for those 15 minutes. A glimpse of the player we paid for.

pmy.murphy

We could potentially be playing Feyenoord in the last 32 after they had an impressive 3-0 win over Standard Liege to build on a 2-0 victory over Sevilla the last time out meaning they topped their group. Very good side

MD1990

Agent Coulson wrote: »

We are going to draw Napoli in the E.L. aren't we.


Rodgers vs Rafa that might need a thread of it's own for some.

We all know who certain posters would be cheering for:p.

Charlie19

This is who we could potentially face:
Borussia Moenchengladbach, Club Brugge, Besiktas, Red Bull Salzburg, Dinamo Moscow, Inter Milan, Feyenoord, Napoli, Dynamo Kiev, Fiorentina, Legia Warsaw, Sporting Lisbon, Olympiakos, Zenit St Petersburg, Athletic Bilbao.

Some very tricky ties there.

Napoli just for the crack on this thread.

Agent Coulson

Zenit St Petersburg AVB auditioning for FSG :P

Charlie19

klose wrote: »

A failed attempt at fending off a player and his hand went across the basels player face giving his nose the slightest of tickles which he then collapsed on the ground for.

Or another way to look at it, would be to say he was very foolish for giving the ref an excuse to send him off.

Dont be at yourself

Charlie19 wrote: »

This is who we could potentially face:
Borussia Moenchengladbach, Club Brugge, Besiktas, Red Bull Salzburg, Dinamo Moscow, Inter Milan, Feyenoord, Napoli, Dynamo Kiev, Fiorentina, Legia Warsaw, Sporting Lisbon, Olympiakos, Zenit St Petersburg, Athletic Bilbao.

Some very tricky ties there.

Napoli just for the crack on this thread.

If we get Sturridge back, winning the Europa League might be our best shot at CL football next year.

Utopia Parkway

Charlie19 wrote: »

Or another way to look at it, would be to say he was very foolish for giving the ref an excuse to send him off.

I'm sure he thought he was just fending off an opponent like normal. I doubt he thought a red card was even a remote possibility. Especially for basically flicking the tip of his nose.

Charlie19

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

If we get Sturridge back, winning the Europa League might be our best shot at CL football next year.

I dont know about that. Judging on how our rivals for the top four have been playing, I'm still hopeful on getting fourth.

Utd have had a gun run but were terrible in some of those games.

redzerdrog

MD1990 wrote: »

We all know who certain posters would be cheering for:p.

Liverpool id imagine

OwaynOTT

Charlie19 wrote: »

This is who we could potentially face:
Borussia Moenchengladbach, Club Brugge, Besiktas, Red Bull Salzburg, Dinamo Moscow, Inter Milan, Feyenoord, Napoli, Dynamo Kiev, Fiorentina, Legia Warsaw, Sporting Lisbon, Olympiakos, Zenit St Petersburg, Athletic Bilbao.

Some very tricky ties there.

Napoli just for the crack on this thread.

Looking at those, we could go quite far in this competition. All the way to Moscow or St. Petersburg.

Charlie19

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

I'm sure he thought he was just fending off an opponent like normal. I doubt he thought a red card was even a remote possibility. Especially for basically flicking the tip of his nose.

I know what you're saying but after looking at replays, he had two good looks to see where the player was and I think he gave the player a reason to make the most of it.

klose

Charlie19 wrote: »

Or another way to look at it, would be to say he was very foolish for giving the ref an excuse to send him off.

Well i dont think he went to swing for him or anything like that and fending off players is common practice and he just made a bit of a balls of it. No biggie in my books anyways, was impressed by his cameo all the same and hoping to see more of him from now on.

brevity

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11288976/Liverpools-Adam-Lallana-playing-through-pain-barrier-with-two-broken-ribs.html

Lallana has been injured since Leicester apparently.

Utopia Parkway

brevity wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11288976/Liverpools-Adam-Lallana-playing-through-pain-barrier-with-two-broken-ribs.html

Lallana has been injured since Leicester apparently.

God knows how anyone could play with 2 fractured ribs. I had one fractured rib before and it was sore to even breathe.

Mr Alan

brevity wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11288976/Liverpools-Adam-Lallana-playing-through-pain-barrier-with-two-broken-ribs.html

Lallana has been injured since Leicester apparently.

Hmmmm isn't Bascombe very close to Rodgers? Seems strange this would only come out now

brevity

It makes no sense at all. If someone is injured then just say they are injured and let them get better...we have cover in that position.

Very strange.

Harry Palmr

Mr Alan wrote: »

Hmmmm isn't Bascombe very close to Rodgers? Seems strange this would only come out now

Is he? More conspiracy stuff when it suits?

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/dec/11/liverpool-adam-lallana-fit-manchester-united?

Knex*

Mr Alan wrote: »

Hmmmm isn't Bascombe very close to Rodgers? Seems strange this would only come out now

Bet he too has a portrait of Rodgers in his house.

Mr Alan

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Is he? More conspiracy stuff when it suits?

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/dec/11/liverpool-adam-lallana-fit-manchester-united?

Both articles posted at the exact same time. Weird.

Injury seems like bull**** to me.

Royal Legend

Washington Irving wrote: »

Rafa the opposing manager for the first leg and our manager for the second

We can go back to ending our posts in the original and best IRWT

Agent Coulson

Just reading that AC Milan are going to cancel the loan deal for Torres and Chelsea are prepared to let him go on a free.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/fernando-torres-set-offered-up-4793025


We need a striker... Just saying.

If he was prepared to take a huge pay cut would anyone take him back?


I think I would on a pay as you play deal.

Mr Alan

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Just reading that AC Milan are going to cancel the loan deal for Torres and Chelsea are prepared to let him go on a free.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/fernando-torres-set-offered-up-4793025


We need a striker... Just saying.

If he was prepared to take a huge pay cut would anyone take him back?


I think I would on a pay as you play deal.

He's a better option than anything currently available to us. On a free & with a big pay cut id take the punt.

super_furry

Well he's better than Lambert, but he's still muck.

ush

There's a striker coming in January. Thats the only explanation for freezing out Borini and persisting with Lambert or Balotelli as lone strikers. Hope its Jackson Martinez and not Torres though.

ben.schlomo

No chance as regards Torres, hes a shadow of the player he was, would offer nothing, no pace anymore, which we already lack in a striker. Id sooner take a 20/30 million punt on someone with talent, power, pace and a record of goals in recent times e.g Jackson, Higuain (for way less than 20mil), Gignac, Lacazette. Have to say idbe surprised if we do anything in Jan as we will have Sturridge back and Origi due in the summer, cant see them letting BR spend that money until the summer. Maybe if we got rid of Mario but thats unlikely in Jan too.

Utopia Parkway

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Just reading that AC Milan are going to cancel the loan deal for Torres and Chelsea are prepared to let him go on a free.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/fernando-torres-set-offered-up-4793025


We need a striker... Just saying.

If he was prepared to take a huge pay cut would anyone take him back?


I think I would on a pay as you play deal.

Apparently he's been chronic at Milan. Think he's done to be honest. Not sure he'd even be an upgrade on Ballotelli.

DaveSuarez

So we started Lallana against Sunderland knowing that he had two broken ribs?

Charlie19

ush wrote: »

There's a striker coming in January. Thats the only explanation for freezing out Borini and persisting with Lambert or Balotelli as lone strikers. Hope its Jackson Martinez and not Torres though.

Somehow I don't think it's the only explanation.

To me, it actually looks personal. Borini is far from being brilliant but for him not to get a place on the bench when it leaves just lambert

Augmerson

I dunno. Torres back at Liverpool. Depends on what reception he might get. Would he receive that same adulation and love from the fans? Could he feed off that?

Last two seasons, 15 & 13 goals for Lambert and he played in most games, can't see how Torres is considered better tbh

Pulsating Star

Quoting Charlie19:
"
To me, it actually looks personal. Borini is far from being brilliant but for him not to get a place on the bench when it leaves just lambert "

A couple of times last year Rodgers mentioned his time at Reading and what he took from it. Namely , that he would no longer give any player ,who would not follow his direction, more than two chances.
He felt that being two forgiving with some who continued to do as they felt best was what did for him in the end. Seemed quite adamant about that, bitter even.

daithijjj

Torres would be an absolute desperation signing, that lad has been 'done' for years.

A player we should look at is Benteke, for example.

The reason we got Balotelli was because we were desperate, and they were desperate to sell, and the quality of the people trying to do deals on our behalf is full of 'small time'.

Strongbow10

Augmerson wrote: »

I dunno. Torres back at Liverpool. Depends on what reception he might get. Would he receive that same adulation and love from the fans? Could he feed off that?

WiFi reception on the bench should be appealing to him

Turtyturd

Augeo wrote: »

Last two seasons, 15 & 13 goals for Lambert and he played in most games, can't see how Torres is considered better tbh

Torres scored loads of goals in other seasons too.

rossc007

Torres **** on this club right when it looked like we where turning a corner. IF he was banging in 20 goals a season, something he never did with any other club, there might be a case for signing him, but he's been a shadow of the player he was for us and frankly I'm delighted. I don't harbour any I'll will for players like masch or Alonso who moved to bigger clubs in a different league. Torres was here long enough to understand what that would do to his legacy.

You can't blame Torres for leaving. He had no connection to Liverpool bar it being his employer.

If my job looked like it was going pear shaped and I received an offer from another company in better shape with increased wages I'd be gone in an instant.