Emmigration queries!

S31

Hi everyone

I have some questions about emmigrating and would be so grateful
for advice from anyone who can help!

I am 32 and want to emmigrate to Australia, I know I have to choose an occupation from the Skilled Occupation List most relevant to my line of work but I wonder when I have chosen the occupation do I need to have experience in every aspect of the description of the occupation or whether extensive experience in a few key elements of the
occupation description suffice?

Also, if my chosen occupation is not currently in demand in the area I wish to emmigrate to but is on the Skilled Occupation List can I still go ahead and apply?

Has anyone had their skills assessed? What does it entail and how strict are the assessments?

I'm hoping to apply for the Skilled Independent visa subclass 189 with my partner included on the application. Unfortunately his occupation is not listed.

Any advice on any aspect of applying
for an Australian visa would be greatly appreciated. I'm really keen to get moving on this asap!

Thank you

Sundy

S31 wrote: »

Hi everyone

I have some questions about emmigrating and would be so grateful
for advice from anyone who can help!

I am 32 and want to emmigrate to Australia, I know I have to choose an occupation from the Skilled Occupation List most relevant to my line of work but I wonder when I have chosen the occupation do I need to have experience in every aspect of the description of the occupation or whether extensive experience in a few key elements of the
occupation description suffice?

What is your occupation? Do you have a qualification in this?I've heard of people being rejected for not matching the occupation sufficiently.

Also, if my chosen occupation is not currently in demand in the area I wish to emmigrate to but is on the Skilled Occupation List can I still go ahead and apply?
You can but you would'nt be granted the visa


Has anyone had their skills assessed? What does it entail and how strict are the assessments? I had mine assessed by the professional body for my occupation so not overly familiar with the normal process.

I'm hoping to apply for the Skilled Independent visa subclass 189 with my partner included on the application. Unfortunately his occupation is not listed.

Any advice on any aspect of applying
for an Australian visa would be greatly appreciated. I'm really keen to get moving on this asap!

Thank you

Really we need more information to help you out, for example you what you have experience in and what your qualifications are in.

mandrake04

If your occupation is on the list you need to get a skills assessment which is governed by what ever body is responsible for assessing that occupation.

there are many

ie
IT occupation - ACS (Australian Computer Association)
Engineering - Engineers Australia
Accountant - CPA
etc
etc

What ever body assesses your occupation will require certain requirements of Qualifications, Experience and sometimes levels of English, how strict is difficult to say it all depends but many people do fail at this point usually from lack of relevant experience. You usually have to provide evidence of qualifications and proof via payslips, references & job descriptions etc.

Your partner would not need an occupation if yours was accepted as you can include him on your application for a price, of course you will need to prove that you are in a defacto relationship for that to happen.

niterain84

S31 wrote: »

Hi everyone

I have some questions about emmigrating and would be so grateful
for advice from anyone who can help!

I am 32 and want to emmigrate to Australia, I know I have to choose an occupation from the Skilled Occupation List most relevant to my line of work but I wonder when I have chosen the occupation do I need to have experience in every aspect of the description of the occupation or whether extensive experience in a few key elements of the
occupation description suffice?

Also, if my chosen occupation is not currently in demand in the area I wish to emmigrate to but is on the Skilled Occupation List can I still go ahead and apply?

Has anyone had their skills assessed? What does it entail and how strict are the assessments?

I'm hoping to apply for the Skilled Independent visa subclass 189 with my partner included on the application. Unfortunately his occupation is not listed.

Any advice on any aspect of applying
for an Australian visa would be greatly appreciated. I'm really keen to get moving on this asap!

Thank you

your question is a little vague in places so its hard to give you a full answer.

the skills assesment is not done by the dept of immigration, its done by the relevant assesing authority for your nominated profession on the skills occupation list. if you look at the list you will see the name of the assesing authority next to each occupation. so if think you know which occupation is most close to yours,look up the website of the assesing authority and find out exactly what is required to get your skills assesed as suitable for your nominated occupation.

what is required for each skills assesment is completely different for each occupation. eg a vet, carpenter, lawyer,plumber,doctor etc,etc all have different requirements for a skills assesment. You didnt mention what your occupation is. Each assesing authority has their own requirments for each occupation

im not sure what you mean by if your occupation is not in demand in a certain area. If you get the 189 visa, you can work anywhere in any job you want in Australia, you dont even have to work in your nominated occupation. thats the freedom the 189 visa gives.

to lodge an application you will need to have the skills assesment first and make sure to have a minimum of 60 points. you get points based on age,qualifications,work experience etc. have a look and see if you would be able to get the 60 points. if you are short on points its possible to do an english where you can gain either 10 or 20 points depending on how well you do. you say you are 32, which means you will get 30 points for your age alone. you are halfway to the 60 points already!!.

it doesnt matter if your partners occupation isnt on the list. he can go on your visa application as your partner and would get the same visa if you were granted it.

it sounds like you are at the start of looking into this. the best,most reliable,up to date and free info you need is on the official Deptpartment of Immigration Australia website. read as much as possible and be sure you understand everything as it costs a fair bit of money for the whole visa.

Good luck with it

S31

Hi everyone!

Thanks so much for your advice, I have been consulting the Dept of Immigration Australia website, there is so much info on there it can get a little confusing!

The occupation I am hoping to be assessed for is ANZSCO 611211 Insurance Agent. It seems the most relevant to my experience and qualifications. I am qualified as a Certified Insurance Practitioner which is the minimum requirement in Ireland. I also have 11 + years experience in the Insurance Industry, however my main expertise is in the field of Claims processing and settlement. This is only one element of the description given for tasks of the Insurance Agent so this is why I am wondering if I do not have as much experience in some of the other aspects of the occupation, will it affect my assessment and application? The assessing body for the occupation is VETASSESS. I was curious to know whether anyone else has been assessed by them previously.

I understand the points system and am confident of my ability to get a high score in the IELTS test for the English language and I see that my age allows me 30 points before I even start. But it is the Occupation issue that bothers me, I would really love to relocate to Australia because work here is scarce and although I am currently employed there is always the threat of redundancies at the company for which I work. Also, my brother has been living in Australia for over two years now and I would really like to join him!

Thank you all for your replies and I hope you can help me further with these questions

Noo

I was granted my 457 sponsorship even though my job only covered one aspect of the occupation description. Throughout the application we used environmental engineer (specialising in such and such), funny thing is environmental engineering was only one third of my degree and I was a pretty much a graduate with no significant experience. I didn't hide or alter any of these facts and was very surprised it got granted so easily. That's not to say that'll be the case for everyone, I may have been lucky with my case worker.

S31

thanks Noo , that gives me some hope!

Apologies if this sounds a silly question but what is a 457? I think it would be unusual for the assessing authority to expect an applicant to have experience in every aspect, I know in my industry it would be rare for employees to have worked at every single function of the business.

How long ago did you get your sponsorship/visa?

Thanks for your input!

mandrake04

Noo wrote: »

I was granted my 457 sponsorship even though my job only covered one aspect of the occupation description. Throughout the application we used environmental engineer (specialising in such and such), funny thing is environmental engineering was only one third of my degree and I was a pretty much a graduate with no significant experience. I didn't hide or alter any of these facts and was very surprised it got granted so easily. That's not to say that'll be the case for everyone, I may have been lucky with my case worker.

Op is talking about a migration visa

For most occupations there is no skills assessment required for a 457 visa because its only a 400 series visa, the exception is a few like Project administrator which was used as a rort occupation to cover things like Machine operators and laborers which are not on the CSOL.

S31

thanks for clarifying that for me.

I wonder though how difficult it would be to find a sponsored job in my field if I were to apply for the 457 instead? Do you know where I would even begin?!
Thanks!

mandrake04

S31 wrote: »

thanks for clarifying that for me.

I wonder though how difficult it would be to find a sponsored job in my field if I were to apply for the 457 instead? Do you know where I would even begin?!
Thanks!

It's swings and roundabouts, 189 is a very flexible permanent visa but you need a skills assessment and meets the points requirements where as the 457 is a complete load of rubbish and is 1/4 price and only requires an occupation on CSOL and an employer willing to sponsor.

S31

have you any idea of how someone would go about finding an employer willing to sponsor? Is it a case of thrawling the net and emailing your resumé to any company advertising a job in your field? I'd like to know a bit more about this 😊

mandrake04

S31 wrote: »

have you any idea of how someone would go about finding an employer willing to sponsor? Is it a case of thrawling the net and emailing your resumé to any company advertising a job in your field? I'd like to know a bit more about this 😊

www.seek.com.au

S31

thanks you've been really helpful
cheers!

Noo

Unfortunately unless youre in Australia then it'll be extemely unlikely you'll get sponsored, not impossible but unlikely. Unless you have the skills and qualifications for a very rare position, no employer will take on the responsibility of sponsoring you and your family having not met you are have any idea of your work capabilities, when then get just as easily interview someone in Australia and put them on probation to see theyll work out.