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Under cabinet outlets

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  • 03-11-2014 3:12am
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    ballyharpat
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    I am about to put in a new kitchen, I would like to put in concealed/subtle outlets. I know that angled under cabinet ones are available, but they are still fairly visible and quite expensive, I know in the USA, you can get under counter strips. I was wondering if it would be ok to just mount surface mounted boxes to the underneath of the cabinets-they will be hidden by the trim below the cabinets.

    ANy and all suggestions welcome as well, thanks.....


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    mikeyjames9
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    Don't put them underneath anyhow
    They're not designed to be fitted that way


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    ballyharpat
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    mikeyjames9 wrote: »
    Don't put them underneath anyhow
    They're not designed to be fitted that way

    Thanks, is it against regulation? Or just that they are not designed for that?


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    mikeyjames9
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 700 ✭✭✭mikeyjames9


    not designed for it anyhow

    i'm not aware of any regulation but they would be outside the regulation 4-1200mm height for general use socket outlets

    so presumably wouldn't comply with regulations


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    ballyharpat
    Registered Users Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭ballyharpat


    Thanks, Was talking to a sparky, he said, no they are not designed for that, but there would be no danger-I'm thinking outside the box, I hate the look of them spoiling a backsplash- I was told I was crazy to install a shower fan in the floor of my bedroom to bring up the heat from the sitting room below it, where the stove is, I did it anyway and it does a great job and many others have said how good an idea it was-but it wasn't designed for that ;) -, the regulation for height is not a big concern, and can be a personal preference, -


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    ballyharpat
    Registered Users Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭ballyharpat


    What Height for Electrical Sockets and Switches (habitable areas)
    For new build properties: any sockets need to be at least 450mm up from the actual floor level of a given room
    As for TV points, telephone outlets, doorbells and light switches: these need to be at a max height of 1200mm from the floor
    In addition to this: electrical sockets, switches and other electrical control devices should be a minimum of 350mm from any corner of a room
    Un-inhabited rooms: Unless the house is specifically designed for a person with limited reach these requirements do not apply in garages and kitchens or other un-inhabited rooms


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    bibibobo
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    mikeyjames9 wrote: »
    not designed for it anyhow

    i'm not aware of any regulation but they would be outside the regulation 4-1200mm height for general use socket outlets

    so presumably wouldn't comply with regulations

    Slightly off topic to the original post but I have a socket in cloakroom at 2m to the bottom of the socket. It's on the downstairs ring and has been in place approx 7 years. It was put in for Internet routers and associated hardware up on a high shelf. How old is the height regulation and is there an acceptable workaround in my scenario to bring it in line with current regulations? (Apart from moving it)

    Cheers B


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