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Fuse board moved - new esb tails reqd?

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  • 03-11-2014 9:18pm
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    bibibobo
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    A couple of years (~2007) back an electrician mate moved and installed a new consumer unit for us. The original cable from the esb meter wasn't long enough so he used a hefty junction box and I think 16sq cable about 3m additional length to extend it. My question is now is this deemed acceptable or must new tails be installed from the CU? The junction box is hidden in a plasterboard wall.

    cheers,
    B


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    Luckysasha
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    Totally unacceptable.


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    bibibobo
    Registered Users Posts: 227 ✭✭bibibobo


    Thanks for that. Was this standard practice a few years ago??

    Roughly how much would it cost me to get a REC to fit ~10m proper cable from the ESB meter to the fuse board with all circuits tested etc? Is it as simple as that or do I need to involve ESB networks? Appreciate if somebody could explain the process. The house is a standard 3 bed.


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    mikeyjames9
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    the box is inaccessible which isn't allowed

    I'm not aware of a regulation that says tails can't be extended


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    frankmul
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    mikeyjames9 wrote: »
    the box is inaccessible which isn't allowed

    I'm not aware of a regulation that says tails can't be extended

    but is there a rule that the jb must be accessable


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    Par1
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    frankmul wrote: »
    but is there a rule that the jb must be accessable

    There is a rule that all connections should be accessible so this would apply to a junction box. If they are not accessible then special means should be made to prevent loosening. You would have to know how cable was originally jointed to interoperate the rule appropriately.


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    mikeyjames9
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    connections should be accessible unless they are a maintenance free type such as a resin joint

    under floorboards is considered accessible but the location should preferably be marked

    a commercial type false ceiling with tiles would be accessible ,the void inside a domestic dropped ceiling (screwed to a metal frame ceiling grid)wouldn't be

    hidden inside a partition or drylined wall isn't accessible


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    Par1
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    mikeyjames9 wrote: »
    connections should be accessible unless they are a maintenance free type such as a resin joint

    under floorboards is considered accessible but the location should preferably be marked

    a commercial type false ceiling with tiles would be accessible ,the void inside a domestic dropped ceiling (screwed to a metal frame ceiling grid)wouldn't be

    hidden inside a partition or drylined wall isn't accessible

    Agreed....if joint is crimped then it could be allowed...not ideal but allowed.


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    bibibobo
    Registered Users Posts: 227 ✭✭bibibobo


    mikeyjames9 wrote: »
    connections should be accessible unless they are a maintenance free type such as a resin joint

    under floorboards is considered accessible but the location should preferably be marked

    a commercial type false ceiling with tiles would be accessible ,the void inside a domestic dropped ceiling (screwed to a metal frame ceiling grid)wouldn't be

    hidden inside a partition or drylined wall isn't accessible

    I see the regulation on "connections made in suitable boxes located under floorboard are deemed to be accessible" but realistically I wouldn't consider them readily accessible at all if it requires removing flooring or tiling.

    What would the process be for a REC to replace with a new cable to the ESB meter. Presumably ESB do the meter end of things? I am just wondering how best to get this fixed and roughly what cost I would be looking at.


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    Par1
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    bibibobo wrote: »
    I see the regulation on "connections made in suitable boxes located under floorboard are deemed to be accessible" but realistically I wouldn't consider them readily accessible at all if it requires removing flooring or tiling.

    What would the process be for a REC to replace with a new cable to the ESB meter. Presumably ESB do the meter end of things? I am just wondering how best to get this fixed and roughly what cost I would be looking at.


    Removing floors and tiles would be considered inacessable that's why the regulation states 'Floorboards' - because these can be lifted (although risk of damage to floorboard could be an issue i.e timber splitting). A inspection panel in the ceiling below could be an option.

    ESB do not need to connect tails if the metesr 'Load' side is unsealed (by ESB) and accessible (then sealed) by the contractor (sometimes this is the case)

    It is hard to put a price on it depending on ease of cable run etc....ESB will charge for connection if they have to make connection and reseal meter - depending on supply type etc

    Best thing to do is get 3 quotations to give you an idea, registered contractors can be found here:

    http://www.reci.ie/

    http://www.ecssa.ie/


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