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    #122
    Scannal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭Scannal


    Berserker wrote: »
    How can you be scared of something you know nothing about?

    The poor are rising, the good times are up for you and your sort!


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    #123
    Scannal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭Scannal


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Lol

    Care to name the rich people in this thread?

    If you're not with the poor you're against them. Change is a comin!


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    #124
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,512 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    moxin wrote: »
    And we have posters here believing 100% that they are telling lies. All Gardai are not angels, they have bad apples too.

    Yup you're right

    But answer one question if you can please.

    Why have these protesters NEVER posted the lead up to the alleged garda violence? The videos always strangely start right where it seems to show gardai getting heavy handed with them but always seems to be missing the VITAL minutes leading up to this action surely even you must find this suspicious?


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    #125
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    Scannal wrote: »
    The poor are rising, the good times are up for you and your sort!

    What sort? The hard working taxpayers?


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    #126
    GarIT
    Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    moxin wrote: »
    The barriers were there to protect Enda not the public or protesters.

    Do you want to know why that is? It might be because he is being threatened and having abuse shouted at him by quite a large group. The public don't need protecting as they are the threat in this case. I highly doubt Enda is going to run in and start throwing punches but some of the crowd look like they are ready too, thus the need for the barriers and the Gardaí.


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    #127
    Scannal
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Yup you're right

    But answer one question if you can please.

    Why have these protesters NEVER posted the lead up to the alleged garda violence? The videos always strangely start right where it seems to show gardai getting heavy handed with them but always seems to be missing the VITAL minutes leading up to this action surely even you must find this suspicious?

    Why would they record people protesting peacefully? They need to record the Gardaí using excessive force because they need proof.


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    #128
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users Posts: 29,139 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Yup you're right

    But answer one question if you can please.

    Why have these protesters NEVER posted the lead up to the alleged garda violence? The videos always strangely start right where it seems to show gardai getting heavy handed with them but always seems to be missing the VITAL minutes leading up to this action surely even you must find this suspicious?
    I've asked, you've asked, we can all ask, but they'll never answer.


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    #129
    Phoebas
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    Scannal wrote: »
    If you're not with the poor you're against them. Change is a comin!

    *gets popcorn*













    *sprinkles with gold flakes and truffle shavings*


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    #130
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,512 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Scannal wrote: »
    If you're not with the poor you're against them. Change is a comin!

    I often buy homeless people coffee and sandwiches, i have volunteered at soup kitchens and donate to charities, so am i with them because i help them or am i against them because i can afford to help them? :confused:


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    #131
    Scannal
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    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    What sort? The hard working taxpayers?

    A lot of hard working taxpayers are out protesting.


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    #132
    GarIT
    Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    I support the water meters so must be rich too. The €250 per month student grant I live off really is a life of luxury.


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    #133
    Scannal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭Scannal


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    I've asked, you've asked, we can all ask, but they'll never answer.

    I just did. In your face. :D


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    #134
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,512 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Scannal wrote: »
    Why would they record people protesting peacefully? They need to record the Gardaí using excessive force because they need proof.

    I have yet to see a single incident of excessive force in any of the videos posted. Care to show us an example or two?


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    Scannal
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    Phoebas wrote: »
    *gets popcorn*













    *sprinkles with gold flakes and truffle shavings*

    Soon you'll have to make do with baked beans.


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    #136
    moxin
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    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    But if they were all being model citizens and doing nothing whatsoever wrong, and the Gardai just started battering them around the place for no good reason, are you telling me that they wouldn't be posting footage of them being angels as further propaganda :confused:

    The distinct lack of ANY footage of the minutes leading up to these confrontations where Gardai are portrayed as battering thugs speaks volumes tbh.

    For Santry, the footage is there. The Gardai forced people off the road(entry to campus) so Enda's entourage can move through. They've made the situation worse by worsening people's anger as more people have turned up to protest at what happened in Santry by protesting outside Coolock Garda station. They could have handled it with a little less roughness imho. https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10205044072048180&set=vb.1434154033&type=2&theater
    My name is URL wrote: »
    That's simply untrue. Do you say the same about barriers at concerts or parades? It's crowd control, and without it there would be chaos and everyone would be at risk of injury or getting caught up in trouble.

    Not the same thing, barriers at concerts are used to separate crowds for public safety due to the sheer numbers. In this case they are used to keep people back from getting at Enda.


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    #137
    HeidiHeidi
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    Scannal wrote: »
    Why would they record people protesting peacefully? They need to record the Gardaí using excessive force because they need proof.

    Seriously?

    I can't believe I'm actually replying to this - but surely footage of protesters peacefully sitting/standing there, and Gardai then charging towards them (if this actually happened) would be pure GOLD in propaganda terms?

    Why is there only ever footage of them wielding their camera phones in a scuffle, roaring abuse at Gardai and accusing them of assault?


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    #138
    Mountainlad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭Mountainlad


    Scannal wrote: »
    Why would they record people protesting peacefully? They need to record the Gardaí using excessive force because they need proof.

    OR, they need to contrive 'examples' of Gardaí behaving as you say, to try and play the victim in the hope that they will somehow garner more support from this.


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    #139
    GarIT
    Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Scannal wrote: »
    If you're not with the poor you're against them. Change is a comin!

    I love this idea, so 'the poor' are out to get 'the rich' so say they managed it, and they either drive 'the rich' out of the country or kill them all off what will the country do with 90% of it's tax base gone? More loans? Have fun with that!

    Actually I'll know what they will do, burn the bondholders, burn them forever like the bondholders are a renewable source of income.


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    #140
    Scannal
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    I often buy homeless people coffee and sandwiches, i have volunteered at soup kitchens and donate to charities, so am i with them because i help them or am i against them because i can afford to help them? :confused:

    You give with one hand and take with the other. There will be less need for homeless shelters, soup kitchens etc when the change comes.


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    #141
    Phoebas
    Registered Users Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Scannal wrote: »
    Soon you'll have to make do with baked beans.
    M&S or Lidl?


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    #142
    For Forks Sake
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    Scannal wrote: »
    Soon you'll have to make do with baked beans.

    What sort of peasant would put beans on popcorn? *drops monocle*


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    #143
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users Posts: 29,139 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    moxin wrote: »
    For Santry, the footage is there. The Gardai forced people off the road(entry to campus) so Enda's entourage can move through. They've made the situation worse by worsening people's anger as more people have turned up to protest at what happened in Santry by protesting outside Coolock Garda station. They could have handled it with a little less roughness imho. https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10205044072048180&set=vb.1434154033&type=2&theater



    Not the same thing, barriers at concerts are used to separate crowds for public safety due to the sheer numbers. In this case they are used to keep people back from getting at Enda.

    And there you have it. That's why barriers are needed.


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    #144
    Scannal
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    I have yet to see a single incident of excessive force in any of the videos posted. Care to show us an example or two?

    I've just explained why the videos start being recorded when they are, I wasn't expecting follow up questions.


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    #145
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users Posts: 24,492 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    So were they arrested or anything?
    That kind of blockading one of the main thoroughfares in the city is economic sabotage, plain and simple.


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    #146
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,512 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Scannal wrote: »
    You give with one hand and take with the other. There will be less need for homeless shelters, soup kitchens etc when the change comes.

    Oh sweet jeebus you're one of those revolutionaries?


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    #147
    Berserker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    GarIT wrote: »
    I love this idea, so 'the poor' are out to get 'the rich' so say they managed it, and they either drive 'the rich' out of the country or kill them all off what will the country do with 90% of it's tax base gone? More loans? Have fun with that!

    Actually I'll know what they will do, burn the bondholders, burn them forever like the bondholders are a renewable source of income.

    Don't be ridiculous. They'll just pick more money from the money trees that they will grow when they take control from the 'rich'.


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    #148
    GarIT
    Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Scannal wrote: »
    You give with one hand and take with the other. There will be less need for homeless shelters, soup kitchens etc when the change comes.

    This change, I assume it will eliminate 'the rich'.

    This country survives of two things economically, high earners and large companies, with high earners gone large companies wont be able to survive so what will Ireland do for money?


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    #149
    Scannal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭Scannal


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Seriously?

    I can't believe I'm actually replying to this - but surely footage of protesters peacefully sitting/standing there, and Gardai then charging towards them (if this actually happened) would be pure GOLD in propaganda terms?

    Why is there only ever footage of them wielding their camera phones in a scuffle, roaring abuse at Gardai and accusing them of assault?

    Obviously because they weren't expecting the Gardaí to attack. Why would they when they are protesting peacfully?


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    #150
    ThisRegard
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    Scannal wrote: »
    Judging by this thread the rich are getting scared. The numbers of people out protesting are increasing, they've had enough of people walking all over them.

    Some of these statements are just getting funnier.

    So it's a rich vs poor struggle now is it, with the rich represented by boards.is posters?


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    #151
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    You have sources for these numbers? Because every picture i have seen showed a couple of muppets in guy fawkes masks, November 5th irony?

    Wooooosh....


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