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Limerick mum and five children told ‘go to hostel’

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭The_Captain


    In fairness, I wouldn't live in Moyross either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Another day another sob story


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    Whatever happened to tent lady from last month?

    I commend this woman.
    Immaculate conception 5 times......
    ......There can be no other explanation as to the absence of father(s)


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Simon Lively Belly


    Whatever happened to tent lady from last month?

    I commend this woman.
    Immaculate conception 5 times......
    ......There can be no other explanation as to the absence of father(s)

    That's not what immaculate conception means


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    She looks rather young to have a 12yo son


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭donutheadhomer


    more like immaculate contraception -

    As good citizens of this country we need to keep our animal urges to ourselves and not breed freely when we can't afford it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 205 ✭✭Autonomous


    Hard to feel sorry for someone who decides to bring 5 kids into world and expect the tax payer to look after her...no mention of Dad or Dads helping out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Macavity.


    Some people shouldn't have children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Somebody should remind her the average wait for a local authority house nationwide is at 10-12 years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭donutheadhomer


    on the dole - one could not afford a goldfish let alone 5 kids

    Dole monthly is E814 less 675pm is not enough to feed a gerbil


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  • Registered Users Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Pingi


    Youngest is 4 says shes been living there on rent allowance for 4 years. Maybe the dad died/left her after the youngest was born and they could afford to keep the kids until then. Not her fault the house is being sold, plenty worse not paying rent on rent allowance etc and expecting to be housed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    on the dole - one could not afford a goldfish let alone 5 kids

    Dole monthly is E814 less 675pm is not enough to feed a gerbil

    But this mammy isnt just getting basic €188 pw ,

    One parent family =€ 337pw

    Child benefit for 5 = €675 pm

    Rent supplement maximum of €600 pm

    €32,000 + pa no tax ,

    Free medical cards and probably has a travel pass


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Macavity.


    on the dole - one could not afford a goldfish let alone 5 kids

    Dole monthly is E814 less 675pm is not enough to feed a gerbil

    Campo Largo beans are 32 cent in Lidl. :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 203 ✭✭Uncle Ruckus



    As good citizens of this country we need to keep our animal urges to ourselves and not breed freely when we can't afford it.

    To be fair, it's the states fault. For decades they've pretty much made this lifestyle a career choice for a lot of young women- have a pile of kids and we'll pay for everything. Then once it becomes a sub-cultural norm for many they change everything relatively abruptly. Terrible situation for the children. They are blameless. I doubt any kid would realish the prospect of living in a homeless hostel in arguably the roughest area of the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,386 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    on the dole - one could not afford a goldfish let alone 5 kids

    Dole monthly is E814 less 675pm is not enough to feed a gerbil

    I have a friend who got pregnant last year shortly after losing her job. She's living with friends because rent allowance isn't enough to get a one room place in Dublin and there's a huge wait for a house. It's all been a complete disaster for her. Plus because she has the kid, she can't go back to work since she'd never afford the child care fees. She's looking at going back to college at the moment.

    i have no idea how you can do that and then end up with 4 more kids.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 205 ✭✭Autonomous


    on the dole - one could not afford a goldfish let alone 5 kids

    Dole monthly is E814 less 675pm is not enough to feed a gerbil

    She probably getting rent allowance +single parent+children's allowance+medical card+ maintenance from father(s)

    She probaly better off than most.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Simon Lively Belly


    Pingi wrote: »
    Youngest is 4 says shes been living there on rent allowance for 4 years. Maybe the dad died/left her after the youngest was born and they could afford to keep the kids until then. Not her fault the house is being sold, plenty worse not paying rent on rent allowance etc and expecting to be housed.

    Get out of here with your facts and logic. Clearly she should have predicted the future and it's all her own fault. Off to the laundries with her


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    on the dole - one could not afford a goldfish let alone 5 kids

    Dole monthly is E814 less 675pm is not enough to feed a gerbil

    188 per week is for single people with no dependants. She gets allowances for 5 children.

    She's not paying 675 as she is on rent allowance. She pays something, a fraction of it

    Raising 5 children can't be easy but she's not on poverty money here. There are working families on less after rent/mortgage is paid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Get out of here with your facts and logic. Clearly she should have predicted the future and it's all her own fault. Off to the laundries with her

    Logic and Facts? They basically just made up a completely fictional scenario that played out over 4 years to explain her current situation


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭donutheadhomer


    Cormac... wrote: »
    Logic and Facts? They basically just made up a completely fictional scenario that played out over 4 years to explain her current situation

    indeed - hasn't she had plenty of time to save her children allowance and buy a flat/house for themselves

    small houses are very cheap in limerick and where she lives is quite an expensive part of town - moyross may not be heaven but it would be less expensive for all of us and her


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭fro9etb8j5qsl2


    In fairness, there are properties available that she could move into. She's just being picky because she reckons that with 5 kids who are paid for by the government, she is entitled to a nice 4 bedroomed semi detached house in a leafy suburb. Funny how she would be willing to settle for a 3bed council house near her mother if it was offered though :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭donutheadhomer


    indeed - hasn't she had plenty of time to save her children allowance and buy a flat/house for themselves

    small houses are very cheap in limerick and where she lives is quite an expensive part of town - moyross may not be heaven but it would be less expensive for all of us and her

    http://www.daft.ie/limerick/houses-for-sale/?s%5Bmnp%5D=25000&s%5Bmnb%5D=3&s%5Bsort_by%5D=price&s%5Bsort_type%5D=a


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Autonomous wrote: »
    Hard to feel sorry for someone who decides to bring 5 kids into world and expect the tax payer to look after her...no mention of Dad or Dads helping out.

    loan parent + rent allowance + children allowance X 5 + JSB = no need for daddys helping out.

    she probably is "earning" more money than most on the thread and well able to afford plenty of decent houses in Limerick to Rent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    on the dole - one could not afford a goldfish let alone 5 kids

    Dole monthly is E814 less 675pm is not enough to feed a gerbil

    you are forgetting about rent allowance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    Grayson wrote: »
    I have a friend who got pregnant last year shortly after losing her job. She's living with friends because rent allowance isn't enough to get a one room place in Dublin and there's a huge wait for a house. It's all been a complete disaster for her. Plus because she has the kid, she can't go back to work since she'd never afford the child care fees. She's looking at going back to college at the moment.

    i have no idea how you can do that and then end up with 4 more kids.

    when a man and a woman love each other very much ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,386 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    188 per week is for single people with no dependants. She gets allowances for 5 children.

    She's not paying 675 as she is on rent allowance. She pays something, a fraction of it

    Raising 5 children can't be easy but she's not on poverty money here. There are working families on less after rent/mortgage is paid

    my rent is more than that for a crappy 1 bedroom place near Dublin. I guess that comment belongs in a griping about rents thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    loan parent + rent allowance + children allowance X 5 + JSB = no need for daddys helping out.

    she probably is "earning" more money than most on the thread and well able to afford plenty of decent houses in Limerick to Rent.

    €32,000 + pa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    She's essentially receiving the average Ind wage in benefits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    i have to luagh when i see these stories about people being homeless, no family should be homeless in this country when families are well supported by our social welfare system.

    i personally know a family who moved into a 3 bedroom house last week for €90 a week, with a school 60 second drive down the road. theres 500euro a week coming into many houses from social welfare and theres 1000s of cheap houses available in multiple towns around Ireland.

    it may mean you have to leave your home area, but f*ck it, i know what id rather if my kids needed a safe home and couldnt afford it.

    She's essentially receiving the average Ind wage in benefits.

    much better than that - no childcare fees to pay, plenty of time to spend with the children, medical cards all paid for, supplements on many other things that come with having social welfare.

    and yet, we hear about how families are on the breadline due to failures of the government and society in this country.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭tradhead


    In an ideal world, she wants Limerick City and County Council to buy the home for her in Dooradoyle, but admits this is highly unlikely.

    :rolleyes: Eh in an ideal world I'd love somebody to buy a house for me too! The fact that she is even suggesting this is incredible to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 762 ✭✭✭PeteFalk78


    on the dole - one could not afford a goldfish let alone 5 kids

    Dole monthly is E814 less 675pm is not enough to feed a gerbil

    Bull


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Christ, would it actually add up to 32,000 a year and here I am working my arse off sending out CVs trying to land some sort of a job that pays about 22,000-25,000 a year. I am just on 16,000-17,000, yet have paid nearly 1,500 in tax yet she dose not work and is complaining about a house. I can't even move out of mine and shes paid nearly twice my salary. This country is such a mess. This is why you shouldn't give out 'free' money to people they don't respect it or understand it and keep wasting it then demanding more.

    Jesus Christ love take some ****ing money budgeting classes if your getting 32,000 a year. There should be no way in hell she should end up in a hostel. Felt a bit sorry for her at the start but get your finances in order and you won't end up in a hostel.

    /RANT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    OP would you like your Children or your brothers/sisters children to have to stay in a hostel and share facilities including toilet facilities with all sorts or weird and wonderful homeless people. She's dead right to refuse, none of the council people demanding she Move into a hostel with young children would ever donut themselves so why do they expect Her to.

    I have no time for scroungers on the dole getting handouts for everything, paying for nothing shd having plenty of money for themselves while workers are absolutely fleeced in taxes/use etc To pay for those on welfare but I wouldn't see any child having to stay in a hostel not even for one night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    Is there really no father on the scene or is he just not getting mentioned so that she's entitled to so much in benefits? I've no sympathy for her. No job and she has 5 kids. Has she ever done a days work in her life or is she another breeder sponging off the taxpayer for as long as she can?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    I wouldn't see any child having to stay in a hostel not even for one night.

    Neither would I.

    That's why tales like this are pointless without knowing the fathers status.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Neither would I.

    That's why tales like this are pointless without knowing the fathers status.

    Big chance she wouldn't be in a hostel not a family that size ,

    Highly likely she would be put up in a hotel longterm ,

    I highly doubt she was advised to go a hostel at all


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,237 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Don't hate the playa, hate the game. The system is simple to abuse if you want to.

    "Single" mom + kids = Superb career choice.

    No need for college or hard work when the system allows such a lovely alternative.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭timetogo


    There's also her own family. What did we do in the old days before the council provided houses for people. I've aunts & uncles that lived in their parents house all of their lives. Absolutely not ideal but I'd imagine it's better than a hostel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    And would she not also get maintenance from the fathers?

    Child allowance should be reduced substantially for each subsequent child


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    Its gas that if she owned the house and owed the bank this wouldnt even make news.

    she'd be someone who cant afford her mortgage, must leave


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    FutureGuy wrote: »
    Don't hate the playa, hate the game. The system is simple to abuse if you want to.

    "Single" mom + kids = Superb career choice.

    No need for college or hard work when the system allows such a lovely alternative.

    Tell that to all the bleeding heart liberals who flat out deny that it's a problem here and that there aren't a lot of people playing the system. There should be a 3 year cap on how long any able bodied healthy person can claim Rent Allowance and it should start to be reduced by a third for each year that people are receiving it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    And would she not also get maintenance from the fathers?

    Child allowance should be reduced substantially for each subsequent child

    paying maintenance from their dole money?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,237 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Tell that to all the bleeding heart liberals who flat out deny that it's a problem here and that there aren't a lot of people playing the system. There should be a 3 year cap on how long any able bodied healthy person can claim Rent Allowance and it should start to be reduced by a third for each year that people are receiving it.

    Yep, but it will never happen. Lots of peope in my hometown are all "single" mums with 3-4 kids. Lovely semi-detatched houses, all have partners, great lives, holdays away, nice cars. That's the life!

    It's good to see my tax going to good use anyways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭junior_apollo


    She should be forced to move back home.. why should we be supporting her and her kids for her poor choices... grow up... get home and get a decent job to support your own kids... scum


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    FutureGuy wrote: »
    Yep, but it will never happen. Lots of peope in my hometown are all "single" mums with 3-4 kids. Lovely semi-detatched houses, all have partners, great lives, holdays away, nice cars. That's the life!

    It's good to see my tax going to good use anyways.

    Absolutely, as it's a massive vote loser, but still very frustrating to see it happening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 697 ✭✭✭swiftman


    I have no time for scroungers on the dole getting handouts for everything, paying for nothing shd having plenty of money for themselves while workers are absolutely fleeced in taxes/use etc To pay for those on welfare but I wouldn't see any child having to stay in a hostel not even for one night.
    You don't like someone on the dole who is getting 144 or 188 a week but you feel sorry for her who is on 650 a week? Explain please.
    Maybe she should of worked hard and saved some money before she planned to pop out kids and get her money from the state
    She looks 28 maybe max 30, has a 12 kid, so she was pregnant when she was 17.
    People like her should be stopped. If she can't afford to have kids, take them away from her


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭fro9etb8j5qsl2


    As frustrating as the system is, it's not likely to change anytime soon. I'm more annoyed at the cheek of her, going publicly moaning and rubbing the taxpayers noses in it with her big self entitled head :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    She's getting more p.a. than I do after tax and I still have to pay 7.5k/year on rent.

    Where did I go wrong in life?!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    That's terrible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭howamidifferent


    Caliden wrote: »
    She's getting more p.a. than I do after tax and I still have to pay 7.5k/year on rent.

    Where did I go wrong in life?!?

    Wanna go halves in a baby??:P


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