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Limerick mum and five children told ‘go to hostel’

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,325 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Tell that to all the bleeding heart liberals who flat out deny that it's a problem here and that there aren't a lot of people playing the system. There should be a 3 year cap on how long any able bodied healthy person can claim Rent Allowance and it should start to be reduced by a third for each year that people are receiving it.

    The problem is people with young kids. An entry level job won't pay as much as childcare costs. And you can't kick people with kids out onto the street. Neither can we set up workhouses or laundries.

    Our society is thankfully better than that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Grayson wrote: »
    The problem is people with young kids. An entry level job won't pay as much as childcare costs. And you can't kick people with kids out onto the street. Neither can we set up workhouses or laundries.

    Our society is thankfully better than that.


    Ahh sure its grand we live in utopia here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭donutheadhomer


    Grayson wrote: »
    The problem is people with young kids. An entry level job won't pay as much as childcare costs. And you can't kick people with kids out onto the street. Neither can we set up workhouses or laundries.

    Our society is thankfully better than that.

    perhaps people like this should be made contribute more - providing free childcare to local mums to work off her debt to society.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭donutheadhomer


    Wanna go halves in a baby??:P

    would certainly cut your rent anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Wanna go halves in a baby??:P

    Who do you think you are, King Solomon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭liquoriceall


    The real sickener is thats a lovely estate I would love to live there!! However I cant afford it despite having a lot of education seems I chose the wrong career path getting knocked up repeatedly is the way to go! Plus €675 is way too little for that house


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,325 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    perhaps people like this should be made contribute more - providing free childcare to local mums to work off her debt to society.

    That's a separate issue and not just for that woman. When i first heard how much childcare costs I was shocked. It's stopping a large number of parents from returning to work.
    A lot of EU countries have heavily subsidised childcare because it does help the economy in the long run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Grayson wrote: »
    That's a separate issue and not just for that woman. When i first heard how much childcare costs I was shocked. It's stopping a large number of parents from returning to work.
    A lot of EU countries have heavily subsidised childcare because it does help the economy in the long run.

    And most of her kids are of school going age leaving plenty of scope for part time employment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Caliden wrote: »
    She's getting more p.a. than I do after tax and I still have to pay 7.5k/year on rent.

    Where did I go wrong in life?!?

    Totally agree. Bad week here at work for me. Body clock is sure it must be Saturday by now and I can't wait to clock out tonight so I can crash on couch and feel human again. This grind starts at 7 Mon-Fri. I am not on the worst money so no complaints there but such a chunk is taken to pay for her because she is entitled to breed, entitled to a house in a respectable suburb, entitled to God knows what else in her mind.

    Now is not really the time I want to be reading those figures on what she gets yearly tax free.:mad:

    There is something ethically very rotten about the SW system as it is implemented in Ireland today.

    Is there any meaningful mechanism by which the state can pursue upkeep of the kids with their father or fathers? It wasn't me and my fellow taxpayers who sired them. The only ride we got out of it was one up the rear from her and her kind. As if the bankers and their jollies weren't enough.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭donutheadhomer


    The real sickener is thats a lovely estate I would love to live there!! However I cant afford it despite having a lot of education seems I chose the wrong career path getting knocked up repeatedly is the way to go! Plus €675 is way too little for that house

    €80,000 3 Lissanalta Close, Dooradoyle - http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/business/business-news/7-5m-in-houses-sold-in-limerick-last-month-1-6174367

    Corpo should have bought her this one - false economy paying her 675pm rent allowance - or perhaps she could have saved up the price of this house from her E9000pa children allowance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 697 ✭✭✭swiftman




  • Registered Users Posts: 790 ✭✭✭forgodssake


    "In an ideal world, she wants Limerick City and County Council to buy the home for her in Dooradoyle, but admits this is highly unlikely.". buy the home for her ...is she serious ?? stories of this type really get under my skin.... in this country you are rewarded for doing nothing SW is an absolute joke 😈😈😈


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭liquoriceall


    That was an apartment not a 4 bed semi like she has would be approx €200,000 I would estimate for hers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭donutheadhomer


    That was an apartment not a 4 bed semi like she has would be approx €200,000 I would estimate for hers

    awh - some of her kids might have to sleep in the same room or in the living room


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    swiftman wrote: »

    What is that exactly?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭donutheadhomer


    That was an apartment not a 4 bed semi like she has would be approx €200,000 I would estimate for hers

    https://www.google.ie/maps/@52.6298001,-8.6421272,3a,75y,237.01h,72.29t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sPXdA0rOt_g4pwitsZ_CiUw!2e0

    doesn't look like an apartment


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    337 a week for lone parent's allowance = 1348 per month
    Children's Allowance = 650 per month
    Rent Allowance = 675 per month?

    Total of €2673 per month. Before heating allowance/medical cards/maintenance. Hard to feel sympathy for her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    What is that exactly?

    It's the poor mother of 5 saying how good the council are for doing up her mothers garden in time for holloween


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Gatling wrote: »
    It's the poor mother of 5 saying how good the council are for doing up her mothers garden in time for holloween

    Ah ffs. I have no words.

    Wait, why the feck would the council do that!? If true, they're the bigger eegits.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    swiftman wrote: »


    The writing is extremely blurr on my PC. What does it say, please?

    Edit: Cheers Buttons


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭liquoriceall


    Think it is an apartment but regardless very cheap!! Wish Id bought it myself


  • Registered Users Posts: 697 ✭✭✭swiftman


    YFlyer wrote: »
    The writing is extremely blurr on my PC. What does it say, please?

    Edit: Cheers Buttons
    Exact words



    My mum got her back garden done for Halloween. .
    LmfAo isn't the council very good an they say there's no funding . .

    Had a look for her on Facebook, no surprise she hid it well. Had a look at her two friends pages. Same old


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Gatling wrote: »
    It's the poor mother of 5 saying how good the council are for doing up her mothers garden in time for holloween

    I wonder why the mother can't take them in until she gets herself sorted with a job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,676 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35



    That would just put ya in bad humour, and the rest of us working just to make ends meet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    Grayson wrote: »
    The problem is people with young kids. An entry level job won't pay as much as childcare costs. And you can't kick people with kids out onto the street. Neither can we set up workhouses or laundries.

    Our society is thankfully better than that.

    Yeah because it's so much better to continue a scheme that rewards multiple pregnancies and encourages women not to go out to work to provide for their children.:rolleyes: This is the kind of ****e that should have been tackled years ago. Nobody on benefit should be able to bring in the same amount or more money per year than someone who works. It's shocking and there really needs to be major changes to the system.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    Macavity. wrote: »
    Some people shouldn't have children.

    Thanks for that. Now do you have a solution to this problem that doesn't involve some "fcuk her, I'm alright" comment?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,177 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    FutureGuy wrote: »
    Don't hate the playa, hate the game. The system is simple to abuse if you want to.

    "Single" mom + kids = Superb career choice.

    No need for college or hard work when the system allows such a lovely alternative.

    Can't we hate both?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    Egginacup wrote: »
    Thanks for that. Now do you have a solution to this problem that doesn't involve some "fcuk her, I'm alright" comment?

    Yeah, how about a legislation change that puts a stop to the automatic rewarding of breeding. A take care of your own kids or don't have them, lest they end up in care until you can provide for them.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    Just how much makeup can you possibly put on your face? She looks so stupid just from that alone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I wonder why the mother can't take them in until she gets herself sorted with a job.

    Probably too busy sunning herself in her back garden


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    swiftman wrote: »

    There's no way that's in Ireland last week.
    Blue sky, flat roofed house, trees full of leaves....
    I think that may be a joke?


  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭dquinnan


    Cormac... wrote: »
    Awful Scum

    You certainly are, with comments like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    on the dole - one should not afford a goldfish let alone 5 kids

    Fixed your post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    dquinnan wrote: »
    You certainly are, with comments like that.

    :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    There's a woman with two kids where I'm from who's complaining she's homeless, and the council want to put her into a hostel. She's having none of it, so is saying she's living in a trailer on the side of the road. One of her kids is sick but the smack of self entitlement off the posts.

    She is constantly online posting about how hard done by she is, how the council have no hearts, how she wants a house for her kids and wants it before Christmas. She's also outraged at the idea of paying rent from her dole.

    Her partner is a junkie, so doubt he is much help to her financially. Why do people who have never ever worked have such a self entitlement? If I didn't work I couldn't afford nice things, a nice home ect. It's pretty simple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,483 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    I don't get the facebook thing.
    What, the council go around putting up Simpsons theme parks in people's back yards???
    WTF??????????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    topper75 wrote: »
    Is there any meaningful mechanism by which the state can pursue upkeep of the kids with their father or fathers? It wasn't me and my fellow taxpayers who sired them.....

    Whoa there!

    Who said those men even wanted her to have those kids?!

    Victim-blaming if ever there was such.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭jay-me


    topper75 wrote: »
    Totally agree. Bad week here at work for me. Body clock is sure it must be Saturday by now and I can't wait to clock out tonight so I can crash on couch and feel human again. This grind starts at 7 Mon-Fri. I am not on the worst money so no complaints there but such a chunk is taken to pay for her because she is entitled to breed, entitled to a house in a respectable suburb, entitled to God knows what else in her mind.

    Now is not really the time I want to be reading those figures on what she gets yearly tax free.:mad:

    There is something ethically very rotten about the SW system as it is implemented in Ireland today.

    Is there any meaningful mechanism by which the state can pursue upkeep of the kids with their father or fathers? It wasn't me and my fellow taxpayers who sired them. The only ride we got out of it was one up the rear from her and her kind. As if the bankers and their jollies weren't enough.


    The system serves its purpose as it is meant to otherwise you might be whinging abut the billions being stowed away by the upper echelons.. best stick to the important stuff like her scrounging 30 grand a year to house and feed a family of 6!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Absolutely horrible woman, welfare should be capped at one child max for unmarried women.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    ...... welfare should be capped at one child max for unmarried women.

    :confused:

    Why not for married women?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Gmol


    It should be a legal requirement for the fathers name to be on the birth cert and money should be taken from wages/social welfare also children's allowance should be capped after two kids.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭Electric Sheep


    catallus wrote: »
    :confused:

    Why not for married women?!

    And married men.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Absolutely horrible woman, welfare should be capped at one child max for unmarried women.


    They should all be married off to the nearest bachelor farmer. That'll sort them out :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13 ptee1


    Gatling wrote: »
    But this mammy isnt just getting basic €188 pw ,

    One parent family =€ 337pw

    Child benefit for 5 = €675 pm

    Rent supplement maximum of €600 pm

    €32,000 + pa no tax ,

    Free medical cards and probably has a travel pass



    She basically gets rewarded for pumping out kids


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭To Elland Back


    catallus wrote: »
    Whoa there!

    Who said those men even wanted her to have those kids?!

    Victim-blaming if ever there was such.

    Are you saying it was male rape?

    If not, the males that impregnate these women need to take financial responsibility for the children they conceive. If Revenue can deduct the property tax at source, they can deduct child maintenance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus



    If not, the males that impregnate these women need to take financial responsibility for the children they conceive. If Revenue can deduct the property tax at source, they can deduct child maintenance.

    Why should a man pay for a woman conceiving? Has she no mind of her own? Is a man supposed to be fleeced for the rest of his life if some woman decides she wants his progeny against his will? Are you mad?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    ptee1 wrote: »
    She basically gets rewarded for pumping out kids

    Essentially yes .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭Frigga_92


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Absolutely horrible woman, welfare should be capped at one child max for unmarried women.

    FYP


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