ICT Specialists (Executive Officer level) in Civil Service

AndrewJRenko

emermc wrote: »

Haven't heard anything about the DFA.

They've done some interesting stuff with the online Passport renewal, and they have further plans to develop that service. From an infrastructure side, they have some interesting challenges supporting the 50-ish embassies around the world remotely.

billyhead

emermc wrote: »

Just to add, most of IT for Revenue is in Stephens St. just off georges street I have heard & they are using things like SharePoint & javascript. Probably lots of other things too.

Most of the Revenue It staff are based in john's road, Kilmainham. Georges St is full of Accenture consultants
At least it was when I worked their so things may have changed

MaxPayneXL

Any idea about the work load at Agriculture?

Fionnger

Hi MaxPayneXL,

I got placed 6th on panel but have heard nothing since getting placed. Did you get notified by email or phone and was there any indication of location of vacancies?. Thanks.

MaxPayneXL

I got a call from HR in Agriculture .

emermc

billyhead wrote: »

Most of the Revenue It staff are based in john's road, Kilmainham. Georges St is full of Accenture consultants
At least it was when I worked their so things may have changed

Oh that puts a different light on things for me, Kilmainham wouldn't suit me. Crazy they can't tell you where you'll be located before you make your decision.

MaxPayneXL

Yes, I also was told that they would only tell you which dept, but not which location of of that dept.

So if you get a suitable location it is mere luck.

tomasrojo

MaxPayneXL wrote: »

I got a call from HR in Agriculture .

Yeah, so did I, on Friday. I asked about locations and I was told:
Dept. of Agriculture: Kildare Street
Revenue: off South Great Georges Street
Social Protection: city centre or Con Colbert Road

I have an in-law that works in the civil service, and she said a lot of the social protection stuff is done around Cork Street, so maybe that's the "city centre".

The person who phoned me also mentioned roles in Foreign Affairs and "Ombudsman" positions, but they were not very numerous.

doc22

were you on the infrastructure or dev panel

tomasrojo

doc22 wrote: »

were you on the infrastructure or dev panel

Dev panel.

Fionnger

This is the text from candidate information eo -ict booklet. Does anyone think there'll be any regional vacancies?



The posts will be located at:-

• Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine offices in Portlaoise and Backweston (Celbridge, Co. Kildare) and at Department headquarters in Kildare Street, Dublin 2.
• Revenue offices in Dublin and Limerick
• Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection Offices in Dublin and Sligo

doc22

tomasrojo wrote: »

Dev panel.

what number were you

tomasrojo

doc22 wrote: »

what number were you

To use MaxPayneXL's phrase, top 5.

tomasrojo

Fionnger wrote: »

This is the text from candidate information eo -ict booklet. Does anyone think there'll be any regional vacancies?



The posts will be located at:-

• Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine offices in Portlaoise and Backweston (Celbridge, Co. Kildare) and at Department headquarters in Kildare Street, Dublin 2.
• Revenue offices in Dublin and Limerick
• Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection Offices in Dublin and Sligo

Celbridge was mentioned to me on the phone as a potential location.

AndrewJRenko

tomasrojo wrote: »

Celbridge was mentioned to me on the phone as a potential location.

These guys? http://www.statelab.ie/contact.html

blue_blue

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

These guys? http://www.statelab.ie/contact.html

Ag have an office in Backweston (Cellbridge)

tomasrojo

Think it was Agriculture alright.

emermc

Anybody else been contacted? Any more movement?

MaxPayneXL

Heard that Revenue is very busy always. Any one of you working at Revenue? Is the working hours at revenue 9.00 am to 5.00 pm?

Also considering depts Revenue, Social Protection and Agriculture which has the lowest work load?

tomasrojo

I don't know anything about workloads in different departments, but they're all civil service posts, so the core hours are pretty much the same across all three, from what I've been told. I suppose some might have flexi-time, and some might not.

I asked in the interview about overtime, in particular unpaid overtime, which I was heartily sick of doing in private-sector IT roles, and they said civil service workers do regular hours, and they certainly don't do unpaid overtime.

Whether you're very busy during those hours is another matter, I suppose.

fxotoole

Workload entirely depends on the team/section to which you're assigned. All overtime is paid. You'll never see civil servants not getting paid for overtime

AndrewJRenko

fxotoole wrote: »

You'll never see civil servants not getting paid for overtime

It depends on grade. Unpaid overtime routinely happens at AP level and above.

Fionnger

emermc wrote: »

Anybody else been contacted? Any more movement?

I got a phone call saying I was being considered for a position and would receive paperwork in a few days. Surprisingly I had choice of which location I preferred. As I live down the country I opted for a regional role. Seems to be a number of vacancies in all 3 departments in Dublin and around the various regions.

tomasrojo

I presume that flexi-time is less "flexi" at AP level too?

SFC1895

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

It depends on grade. Unpaid overtime routinely happens at AP level and above.

Yep. I'm only an AO but I regularly work unpaid weekends too

fxotoole

I'm a HEO and in 15 years, I've never seen anyone expected to work unpaid overtime. I guess it depends on the culture of the department you're in.

fxotoole

tomasrojo wrote: »

I presume that flexi-time is less "flexi" at AP level too?

In my dept, AP grades and above don't clock in/out and don't get flexitime.

gazzer

fxotoole wrote: »

Workload entirely depends on the team/section to which you're assigned. All overtime is paid. You'll never see civil servants not getting paid for overtime

Not true in terms of money. Any overtime i do i get back as time in lieu and not extra in my pay packet.

AndrewJRenko

tomasrojo wrote: »

I presume that flexi-time is less "flexi" at AP level too?

fxotoole wrote: »

In my dept, AP grades and above don't clock in/out and don't get flexitime.

New APs appointed after 2012 (I think) don't get flexi-time. So your contracted hours are 9am to 1pm and 2.15pm to 5.45pm (5.15pm on Fridays).

It is a fairly ridiculous scenario, particularly in any non-public-facing office. I've seen local informal 'flexi' arrangements for such APs, where no-one has time to be watching their clock so it is really a matter of getting the job done. I guess that might vary between depts and even between individual offices/sections/line managers.

tomasrojo

gazzer wrote: »

Not true in terms of money. Any overtime i do i get back as time in lieu and not extra in my pay packet.

That seems ok. My experience of overtime over the years in the private sector was that it was completely unpaid, zero extra money, zero time in lieu (or at best a token bonus, or a day or two off to recover, both tiny in comparison to the extra work you'd done).