Is it reasonable to tell someone to stop smoking

Alf Veedersane

Sclosages wrote: »

Technically I had no choice BUT to blow the smoke into her face as she was in my face....

Really?

I then got it 'all up in my face' for about 2 minutes until I blew smoke into her face out of bouldness

As an aside, I'd consider 6 feet 'nearby'.

cloud493

You can't tell them no. You can ask them to stop smoking, out of politeness, I know I would if someone asked me nicely. If you say to me 'STOP SMOKING' I would tell you to **** off as well.

Dave147

If I'm waiting at a bus stop and someone comes beside me and smokes I will ask them to move away, as I was at the stop first, if they were there first I will keep my distance until they've finished, I think that's fair enough.

Sclosages

This lady actually went out of her way to come over to me to tell me to stop smoking. I had literally just sat down and she walked over to me.

Alf Veedersane

No one comes out of this looking the better for it.

You can't tell someone to stop smoking - it's almost guaranteed to get a negative reaction.

But you can't react as the OP did.

Paulownia

Buy a car so you don't have to mix with the smoking population at bus stops. I'd say the temptation was too much for the smoker to resist giving you a clatter

endacl

Doc wrote: »

You could not smoke at the bus stop then no one has to move...

I don't smoke anywhere. I've no problem with people smoking outside though. It's easily avoided.

Sclosages

Paulownia wrote: »

Buy a car so you don't have to mix with the smoking population at bus stops. I'd say the temptation was too much for the smoker to resist giving you a clatter

I was the smoker.

cloud493

Sclosages wrote: »

I was the smoker.

So you walked over to yourself and told yourself to stop smoking, then shoved yourself?

Sclosages

cloud493 wrote: »

So you walked over to yourself and told yourself to stop smoking, then shoved yourself?

Eh......................

Jaxxy

As a smoker I was always hyper-aware of and sensitive to anyone in my proximity. I won't smoke at bus stops (if I really want one I'll move until I'm in the clear) and I wouldn't smoke anywhere near people eating, even if it's a designated outside smoking area. I'll stand off-side and away from my group in beer gardens and when I have people over to my own home I'll be conscious of it.

If someone asked me to put my cigarette out, I would. However, if someone gets aggressive with me and starts to lecture me (I've had complete strangers go out of their way to approach me while I was minding my own business in order to tell me I'm stupid) then they get politely told to fcuk off.

I've struggled on and off for years with this addiction and it's my problem. Not anyone else's. If I'm not bothering you then please extend me the same courtesy.

AudreyHepburn

Depends on the circumstances would be my feelings on it.

I certainly would have no problem with asking some-one to stop or move if they were blowing their smoke directly at me or anyone in my company.

MadDog76

cloud493 wrote: »

So you walked over to yourself and told yourself to stop smoking, then shoved yourself?

LOL!! I think you need to re-read the thread!!

B.A._Baracus

Jaxxy wrote: »

...If I'm not bothering you then please extend me the same courtesy.....

Couldn't agree more.


But it's funny about smoking isnt it? Alot of people have no issue telling someone to put it out. But at the same time wouldn't dare tell a junkie to stop smoking hash at the back of the bus.

eviltwin

I think the only situation I'd ask someone not to smoke is if they were in my house or car. In public then they can do what they like. I do believe though that smokers should use their common sense, I would never have lit up around children personally but if I was already there when she came along then tough.

Fighting Irish

Yes, good question

ALiasEX

This is what e-cigs are for.

Supergurrier

Ya see the blowing smoke in her face wouldn't work for me as the vapour smells like delicious mojito

Egginacup

EazyD wrote: »

Getting a lungful of Dublin Bus fumes would be far more damaging than second hand smoke. Not that I'm saying smoking near kids is acceptable.

Fuck kids!
What's so damn precious about them that they command special treatment?
Their fuckin' lungs are young and healthy. They can handle a bit of pollution. The same crank of a mother probably feeds her oafish brood fanta and chips every second day anyway thus accelerating their descent into obesity, sluggishness, depleted mental capacity and diabetes. Kids! Christ are they so delicate that they have to be shielded from everything? It wasn't so long ago that they were happily sticking bugs and faeces into their gobs. A stray molecule of cigarette smoke is not going to have any effect.

If anything, one should not smoke near old people. They're the ones who need the fresher air. Fuck the stupid kids, they'll be binge-drinking soon enough anyway and trashing their brains and livers.

Grayson

Jaxxy wrote: »

As a smoker I was always hyper-aware of and sensitive to anyone in my proximity. I won't smoke at bus stops (if I really want one I'll move until I'm in the clear) and I wouldn't smoke anywhere near people eating, even if it's a designated outside smoking area. I'll stand off-side and away from my group in beer gardens and when I have people over to my own home I'll be conscious of it.

If someone asked me to put my cigarette out, I would. However, if someone gets aggressive with me and starts to lecture me (I've had complete strangers go out of their way to approach me while I was minding my own business in order to tell me I'm stupid) then they get politely told to fcuk off.

I've struggled on and off for years with this addiction and it's my problem. Not anyone else's. If I'm not bothering you then please extend me the same courtesy.

the bit in bold is the only part of your post I'd disagree with. I'd move downwind if possible. If it was a crappy bus shelter and it was p1ssing rain, I might put it out but that's only because it might not be possible to move downwind.

michellie

Did you really blow smoke in her face? I'd flip if someone did that to me.

****ing hate smoke, nothing worse than walking through a cloud of it.

ArmaniJeanss

foggy_lad wrote: »

I told a woman to stop smoking her E-cigarette on the Luas the other day, she put a face like thunder on and tried to fry me with lightening bolts from her eyes but loudly telling her that smoking any kind of cigarette on the luas was an offence seemed to work!

Luas is a bit of a grey area, nothing in their bylaws about vaping as of yet.

end of the road

Sclosages wrote: »

at a bus-stop as there are kids around?

This happened me today. I also got shoved and sent flying for my back-chat.

no, its not reasonable, its none of your business. if kids are around so be it, they are inhaling car fumes in a hugely large amount compared to the unnoticable tad from smoking anyway.

Viper_JB

michellie wrote: »

Did you really blow smoke in her face? I'd flip if someone did that to me.

****ing hate smoke, nothing worse than walking through a cloud of it.

I'd kinda be of the opinion that if you're squaring up to a stranger in a public place, getting up in their face and shouting at them over them having a smoke...then you probably deserve far worse then having smoke blown in your face...

well deserve maybe a bit OTT but you're definitely asking for trouble..

fro9etb8j5qsl2

I don't suppose any of ye take a detour to avoid children when yer out driving? Cos I'm pretty sure exhaust fumes pose a similar risk as cigarette smoke.....

LoganRice

Yeah, it is :P

Arbiter of Good Taste

Sclosages wrote: »

The children were not nearby. They were 6 feet away from me.
Technically I had no choice BUT to blow the smoke into her face as she was in my face....

Six feet is nearby.

TBH your attitude stinks as much as your cigarettes. I would like to hear the other person's version of the story

Sir Oxman

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Escalated quickly, needs more context.

If someone asks me, certainly I wouldn't have an issue with putting out my cigarette. Nice to be nice and all that, and it's not a major inconvenience, to me at least.

So, you're a wimp.
Once you know.

Sir Oxman

A Neurotic wrote: »

Those who smoke at bus/Luas stops will be the first to die in my new régime. Pisses me right off.

Blueshirt Fascists like you are on the way out, didn't you get the memo?

It is very wrong to smoke where there are children in your space. It is called battery - an offence - to blow smoke in a persons face, and is assault to push, an offence, but the pushing person might claim provocation. Both persons were wrong, but in law I think the smoker would be punished more.

Sir Oxman

to be fair to skip the boring bits successfully, the OP must be clear in the first post and she/he certainly wasn't.

braddun

only if the smoker is an old lady that cant push you

Arbiter of Good Taste

Sir Oxman wrote: »

So, you're a wimp.
Once you know.

Sometimes it's nice, to just not be a d1ck -you know, karma and all that.

Optimalprimerib

Im on her side op. Kids or no kids it is rude to smoke in a confined space outdoors or not and your reaction was one of a spoiled brat. She should not have pushed you, but a bit of humility and cop on from you by just accepting her request and moving aside or stop smoking would be the better option.

daUbiq

Where was the bus stop?

Sclosages

Her 'request'? lol
You mean her bullying overbearing I'm so precious and ignorant and bigger than you IGNORANCE?

Arbiter of Good Taste

Sclosages wrote: »

Her 'request'? lol
You mean her bullying overbearing I'm so precious and ignorant and bigger than you IGNORANCE?

Seriously, if this is your attitude to anyone who disagrees with you, you are going to find yourself in this kind of situation a lot in the future.

Sclosages

Arbiter of Good Taste wrote: »

Seriously, if this is your attitude to anyone who disagrees with you, you are going to find yourself in this kind of situation a lot in the future.

At my ripe old age - I think I've a good grasp of what the future holds. And standing up to bullies will always be there no matter how decrepit and feeble I become.

MadDog76

Deleted User wrote: »

It is very wrong to smoke where there are children in your space. It is called battery - an offence - to blow smoke in a persons face, and is assault to push, an offence, but the pushing person might claim provocation. Both persons were wrong, but in law I think the smoker would be punished more.

You think the law would more harshly punish someone who blows smoke in someone's face than a person physically pushing another person???

looking_around

Zaire Eager Martinet wrote: »

I don't suppose any of ye take a detour to avoid children when yer out driving? Cos I'm pretty sure exhaust fumes pose a similar risk as cigarette smoke.....

tbf, driving is pretty much expected/necessary for today's society to fucntion, smoking however, well I'll leave that to you to figure out.

end of the road

looking_around wrote: »

tbf, driving is pretty much expected/necessary for today's society to fucntion, smoking however, well I'll leave that to you to figure out.

for some people it is necessary for relaxation purposes

looking_around

end of the road wrote: »

for some people it is necessary for relaxation purposes

no reason they can't step away from others while smoking. They don't have to infrenge on other peoples space because they need to "relax"

MadDog76

looking_around wrote: »

no reason they can't step away from others while smoking. They don't have to infrenge on other peoples space because they need to "relax"

What about people infringing on smokers space when they're trying to relax???

anncoates

No way should she have shoved you.

She should have booted you.

looking_around

MadDog76 wrote: »

What about people infringing on smokers space when they're trying to relax???

When you learn how to keep smoke in your personal space, you can play this card.

MadDog76

looking_around wrote: »

When you learn how to keep smoke in your personal space, you can play this card.

Personal space in public

looking_around

MadDog76 wrote: »

Personal space in public

yes, your smoke, if near other people, ends up in their faces/breathing space. Them not smoking doesn't affect your breathing. How hard is it really, to be considerate of others and step away?

MadDog76

looking_around wrote: »

yes, your smoke, if near other people, ends up in their faces/breathing space. Them not smoking doesn't affect your breathing. How hard is it really, to be considerate of others and step away?

Just as reasonable as it is for them to step away .........

dartsplayer

smoking. is good for people who like smoking. why should we feel ashamed for doing what we like doing. smoking is a choice. ok we are banned from doing it indoors. but its not illegal to smoke. smoking is still legal. we shouldnt feel ashamed for what we do.

MadDog76

dartsplayer wrote: »

smoking. is good for people who like smoking. why should we feel ashamed for doing what we like doing. smoking is a choice. ok we are banned from doing it indoors. but its not illegal to smoke. smoking is still legal. we shouldnt feel ashamed for what we do.

I wonder how many anti-smoking posters on this thread drink alcohol ............