The ITV Thread

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lxflyer wrote: »

I have to admit I do feel like we are being had to an extent here.

Anyone who has UPC has had access to the four main UK terrestrial channels since God knows when and with one foul swoop, one of those is being removed and replaced with an Irish channel, which will replicate some but by no means all of that channel's output.

Now I wish UTV Ireland well, but I don't see why I should lose the third UK channel (ITV1) at the same time. I do like ITN news, and sometimes watch Good Morning Britain - why should I have to forego these?

I agree. Once again we get the Paddy spec ITV. I had a quick look at the listings in the TV Now magazine and it looks pretty dire, looking like other channels are still going to be used frequently:mad:

icdg

lxflyer wrote: »

I have to admit I do feel like we are being had to an extent here.

Anyone who has UPC has had access to the four main UK terrestrial channels since God knows when and with one foul swoop, one of those is being removed and replaced with an Irish channel, which will replicate some but by no means all of that channel's output.

Now I wish UTV Ireland well, but I don't see why I should lose the third UK channel (ITV1) at the same time. I do like ITN news, and sometimes watch Good Morning Britain - why should I have to forego these?

Its a bad deal for UPC viewers true, in many ways we are sacrificing our access to the full ITV network schedule in order to get UTV onto Sky and Saorview.

However as I say we'll still have access to ITV2, ITV3, and ITV4 (if a cut-down version of ITV4) on our EPG, most people don't watch UTV as much as they used (ITN is certainly, if not as bad as it was in the 2000s, certainly a pale shadow of its pre-1999 self), and ITV will have lost most of its key sporting rights at the end of this season. I would imagine that the differences between UTV and UTV Ireland will slowly lessen and lessen (particularly after TV3 loses the rights to its remaining ITV Studios programming in 2016). The X Factor surely has more years behind it than on front of it. I'd also hope that ITV will change its commissioning arrangements in the future so it gains ROI rights to more of its own schedule which can then be broadcast on UTV Ireland.

LXFlyer

icdg wrote: »

Its a bad deal for UPC viewers true, in many ways we are sacrificing our access to the full ITV network schedule in order to get UTV onto Sky and Saorview.

However as I say we'll still have access to ITV2, ITV3, and ITV4 (if a cut-down version of ITV4) on our EPG, most people don't watch UTV as much as they used (ITN is certainly, if not as bad as it was in the 2000s, certainly a pale shadow of its pre-1999 self), and ITV will have lost most of its key sporting rights at the end of this season. I would imagine that the differences between UTV and UTV Ireland will slowly lessen and lessen (particularly after TV3 loses the rights to its remaining ITV Studios programming in 2016). The X Factor surely has more years behind it than on front of it. I'd also hope that ITV will change its commissioning arrangements in the future so it gains ROI rights to more of its own schedule which can then be broadcast on UTV Ireland.

It's not just ITV news - it was another perspective on UK politics, and indeed NI politics - plenty of people are interested in that here as well - I just think this seems to be washed over.

As I said - it's the loss of the third UK channel that I feel annoyed about.

I still have yet to see confirmation of what will happen the analogue cable channel that is currently ITV1 (UTV NI).

Digifriendly

firestarter51 wrote: »

utv ireland is on the sky epg
number 116

I Live in NI. Can I add it on a NI card?

icdg

I'd be surprised if that did not also become UTV Ireland. We'll see tomorrow...

AwaitYourReply

hotmail.com wrote: »

I'm not being rude, but is this a joke?

It's not a joke at all - it's an obvious omission from UTV Ireland and a clear observation about a channel claiming to have arrived in Ireland! What a joke!

They made such a big deal about UTV Ireland having regional news offices based in various cities but I've seen absolutely no footage/loops of any of these same regions after their long lead-in countdown.

If UTV Ireland is not prepared to include major areas of Ireland (i.e.) Cork, Limerick, Galway, Waterford etc; it is probably a sign of yet another Irish TV channel that will rarely cover much happening from outside "The Pale". I was hoping they might do things a little differently in their approach but I won't hold my breath.

Presumably they would have wanted to hook people and be inclusive with their promos but they may well have just alienated people from areas not covered. They could learn a trick or two from another channel called: IRISH TV when it comes to dedicate time for ALL Counties! I will probably continue watching The 5:30 News on TV3 as Southern Correspondent, Paul Byrne is usually a very solid performer where news events from Cork are concerned. In fact, it is interesting that Paul declined to take up a similar role with UTV Ireland despite an offer made.

I still wish UTV Ireland well and I hope I end up being completely wrong on this but their choice of film footage would appear to indicate that any local coverage is going to be all about Dublin and just token coverage squeezed in for rest of the country! First impressions last though

hotmail.com

AwaitYourReply wrote: »

It's not a joke at all - it's an obvious omission from UTV Ireland and a clear observation about a channel claiming to have arrived in Ireland! What a joke!

They made such a big deal about UTV Ireland having regional news offices based in various cities but I've seen absolutely no footage/loops of any of these same regions after their long lead-in countdown.

If UTV Ireland is not prepared to include major areas of Ireland (i.e.) Cork, Limerick, Galway, Waterford etc; it is probably a sign of yet another Irish TV channel that will rarely cover much happening from outside "The Pale". I was hoping they might do things a little differently in their approach but I won't hold my breath.

Presumably they would have wanted to hook people and be inclusive with their promos but they may well have just alienated people from areas not covered. They could learn a trick or two from another channel called: IRISH TV when it comes to dedicate time for ALL Counties! I will probably continue watching The 5:30 News on TV3 as Southern Correspondent, Paul Byrne is usually a very solid performer where news events from Cork are concerned. In fact, it is interesting that Paul declined to take up a similar role with UTV Ireland despite an offer made.

I still wish UTV Ireland well and I hope I end up being completely wrong on this but their choice of film footage would appear to indicate that any local coverage is going to be all about Dublin and just token coverage squeezed in for rest of the country! First impressions last though

Anyway.

AwaitYourReply

Does anybody consider that the UTV Ireland channel listings already published is going to be a serious threat to the other channels in multi-channel land? I've seen numerous negative posts from people who seem to prefer the UTV NI schedule so; apart from UPC viewers UTV Ireland could be facing competition from their very own sister channel up in Belfast rather than competition from the likes of TV3 and RTÉ One & RTÉ 2!

TV Viewers on either of the below options may still prefer to watch UTV(NI) or Other itv regions as follows:
(i) on Free-To-Air digital satellite set top box
(ii) on Sky Digital Ireland (by manually tuning into UTV(NI) or Other itv channels frequency and watching it via "Other Channels" option)

Now this would be an own-goal if it was allowed to happen!

SPDUB

Michael Wilson the MD of UTV has tweeted that the switchover of UPC's UTV feed will be from 7pm tomorrow

https://mobile.twitter.com/MW_UTV/status/550301867457396737?p=v

dublinbusdude

So anyone without digital with UPC wont be able to get UTV Ireland on analogo from tomorrow evening!

SPDUB

dublinbusdude wrote: »

So anyone without digital with UPC wont be able to get UTV Ireland on analogo from tomorrow evening!

I presume Analogue would be switched at the same time as Digital

dublinbusdude

SPDUB wrote: »

I presume Analogue would be switched at the same time as Digital

Thats what I through!! thanks

Elmo

AwaitYourReply wrote: »

Does anybody consider that the UTV Ireland channel listings already published is going to be a serious threat to the other channels in multi-channel land? I've seen numerous negative posts from people who seem to prefer the UTV NI schedule so; apart from UPC viewers UTV Ireland could be facing competition from their very own sister channel up in Belfast rather than competition from the likes of TV3 and RTÉ One & RTÉ 2!

TV Viewers on either of the below options may still prefer to watch UTV(NI) or Other itv regions as follows:
(i) on Free-To-Air digital satellite set top box
(ii) on Sky Digital Ireland (by manually tuning into UTV(NI) or Other itv channels frequency and watching it via "Other Channels" option)

Now this would be an own-goal if it was allowed to happen!

UTV had a 3% share I image this will drop to 1% Die hard UTV fans .

Your right UTV doesn't pose a threat to other channels rather it will initially eat into their own audience and TV3's giving the~7% audience for UTV Ireland.

With TV3's sports rights and Xfactor they will hold on to there yearly audience or a 9% to 10% .

Happy new year everyone.

Brian017

The UTVI Player app is now live in the Apple app store at least. There's nothing to watch yet though

pa990

Brian017 wrote: »

The UTVI Player app is now live in the Apple app store at least. There's nothing to watch yet though

Android app here,

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=tv.u.ireland.android

AwaitYourReply

Elmo wrote: »

UTV had a 3% share I image this will drop to 1% Die hard UTV fans .

Your right UTV doesn't pose a threat to other channels rather it will initially eat into their own audience and TV3's giving the~7% audience for UTV Ireland.

With TV3's sports rights and Xfactor they will hold on to there yearly audience or a 9% to 10% .

Happy new year everyone.

Such a wasted opportunity if UTV Ireland ends up shooting themselves in the foot. The removal of the UTV (NI) channel from UPC Ireland altogether from 19:00hrs on Thursday 1st of Jan (New Year's Day) is very likely to irritate some existing UPC Ireland's cable tv customers big time.

Of course it is partly understandable that UTV would want viewers in ROI to watch UTV Ireland rather than UTV (NI) however; they should have thought a bit "outside the box" and recognised that there will be some viewers in the Republic who will miss certain staple programmes like the itv News from the studios of ITN in London. Viewers of UTV Ireland should at least have live access to this service even if it is only via UTVi Player as something like itv News should not conflict with programming rights.

Happy New Year to all on here!

icdg

Channel name on UPC has now changed to UTV Ireland, though despite the EPG UTV programmes are continuing.

AwaitYourReply

icdg wrote: »

Channel name on UPC has now changed to UTV Ireland, though despite the EPG UTV programmes are continuing.

I wonder if you shut down the UPC cable tv set top box for about a full minute and then did a system re-boot, would the appropriate details update correctly?

Sometimes you can have similar issues with radio station names changing but the RDS label does not always update automatically to the new name version.

Headshot

Will UTV ireland have such shows as Dickinson Deal and secret dealers. The mother loves those shows

They are shown on ITV

AwaitYourReply

Headshot wrote: »

Will UTV ireland have such shows as Dickinson Deal and secret dealers. The mother loves those shows

They are shown on ITV

I've glanced through the various shows referenced on the UTV Ireland website and neither of the TWO shows that you referenced appear on the list outlined from various providers/suppliers at this stage.

If your mother is an existing UPC Ireland cable subscriber, I am afraid she will not be able to see them via the UPC Ireland cable tv platform after 19:25hrs on Thursday 01/01/2015 onwards, at least not in the short term. UTV (NI) will be replaced by UTV Ireland on UPC Ireland as and from 19:00hrs on New Year's Day 2015.

FGR

On a standard fereguson hd combination box I've found utv Ireland sd but the only hd utv Ireland hd I can find is scrambled.

Are sky/upc claiming exclusivety for hd??

SPDUB

Well the MD of UTV might have wanted the change at 7pm but it's already occurred ( on analogue at least ) by 610am

doubie

At a guess, I'd assume UTV NI will be replaced by UTV I on the UPC epg. If they go on Sky, would they want/need to encrypt?

Wabbit Ears

its encrypted on astra for sky just like RTE is

icdg

doubie wrote: »

At a guess, I'd assume UTV NI will be replaced by UTV Ireland

It has already happened. Although UTV NI stayed on after 1:40am, it was gone by this morning. UTV Ireland promo reel now airing on 110.

There's a countdown at the top of the screen to launch.

blobbie

icdg wrote: »

It has already happened. Although UTV NI stayed on after 1:40am, it was gone by this morning. UTV Ireland promo reel now airing on 110.

There's a countdown at the top of the screen to launch.

Best morning TV I have seen on UTV in years

MadSham

Can anyone confirm if you have to have the Sky HD pack to view UTV Ireland HD? Thanks Guys

MadSham

MadSham wrote: »

Can anyone confirm if you have to have the Sky HD pack to view UTV Ireland HD? Thanks Guys

Sorry guys should've said I'm on Sky variety pack without HD

galtee boy

MadSham wrote: »

Can anyone confirm if you have to have the Sky HD pack to view UTV Ireland HD? Thanks Guys

Yes.

galtee boy

icdg wrote: »

It has already happened. Although UTV NI stayed on after 1:40am, it was gone by this morning. UTV Ireland promo reel now airing on 110.

There's a countdown at the top of the screen to launch.

Is it in HD on UPC ?

The Ayatolla

Is it HD on saorview?

galtee boy

The Ayatolla wrote: »

Is it HD on saorview?

No.

The Ayatolla

galtee boy wrote: »

No.

Well that's shocking to say the least.

icdg

galtee boy wrote: »

Is it in HD on UPC ?

Yes, Channel 110 for Horizon and channel 138 for everyone else. Should also mention that, at least at the moment, its available to non-HD subscribers as UTV HD was, unlike the position on Sky and eVision.

galtee boy

icdg wrote: »

Yes, Channel 110 for Horizon and channel 138 for everyone else. Should also mention that, at least at the moment, its available to non-HD subscribers as UTV HD was, unlike the position on Sky and eVision.

Some consolation at least. But if I was a UPC customer, I would be mad. The four UK terrestrial channels have been on cable in Ireland for many a long year and now one of them is being taken away. UTVI is not a simulcast of UTV. It's a different channel. We in satellite land were the poor relations all along, because we didn't have UTV/ITV on the Sky EPG and had to go through the cumbersome Other Channels menu, but at least we still have that facility and can get a Freesat box, if we want UTV/ITV on the EPG. But now if cable is your only option, you can't see UTV/ITV anymore. As I said , it would p**s me off big time, if I had no choice other than UPC.

ricardo1

Slightly off the topic Sky News I feel is a news channel for British News and for British interests only.
(Not that I have anything against the British with some of my best friends being British).

However I think the news on Sky News really has little or no relevance to Irish people.
I can remember there was a Sky News Ireland Channel about 7-10 years ago but it unfortunately didn't last. Obviously not enough viewers hence revenue from advertising.

For this I think airports, department stores, bars or other establishments that show it should just switch to another news channel with more international relevance.

ricardo1

ricardo1 wrote: »

Slightly off the topic Sky News I feel is a news channel for British News and for British interests only.
(Not that I have anything against the British with some of my best friends being British).

However I think the news on Sky News really has little or no relevance to Irish people.
I can remember there was a Sky News Ireland Channel about 7-10 years ago but it unfortunately didn't last. Obviously not enough viewers hence revenue from advertising.

For this I think airports, department stores, bars or other establishments that show it should just switch to another news channel with more international relevance.

Goodness me!

ricardo1

zorro2566 wrote: »

Goodness me!

I'm only saying I think it would be jolly good if Sky News showed a tad more Irish news.

Brian017

I presume not all of their HD programmes are tagged as being in HD yet. There's only the soaps tagged in HD as of yet, if thats the extent of their HD output its a tad underwhelming

icdg

No more Sky News please, its completely irrelevant to this thread.

twinklerunner

These are just photos of two TVs showing the countdown clock today, but notice how on Saorview part of the U on the top left corner is missing - compared to the HD version on UPC

JosephPatrick

twinklerunner wrote: »

These are just photos of two TVs showing the countdown clock today, but notice how on Saorview part of the U on the top left corner is missing - compared to the HD version on UPC

On my Saorview I can see the U in the top left corner fine. Try changing the aspect ratio of the channel to "just scan", "1:1" or "Native". It might have defaulted to 16:9 or something and its cut off?

twinklerunner

JosephPatrick wrote: »

On my Saorview I can see the U in the top left corner fine. Try changing the aspect ratio of the channel to "just scan", "1:1" or "Native". It might have defaulted to 16:9 or something and its cut off?

Thanks for that. I've tried all the various settings but can't get it corrected. Unfortunately I don't have Saorview on the TV where I have UPC.

twinklerunner

Brian017 wrote: »

I presume not all of their HD programmes are tagged as being in HD yet. There's only the soaps tagged in HD as of yet, if thats the extent of their HD output its a tad underwhelming

Sky's on-line tv guide indicates that all today's programmes are in HD

Kermit.de.frog

AwaitYourReply wrote: »

they should have thought a bit "outside the box" and recognised that there will be some viewers in the Republic who will miss certain staple programmes like the itv News from the studios of ITN in London.

You can't have a national tv station in the Republic of Ireland giving "national" news from London.


What should they do - show UK national news before telling us they are switching to our region for local news? How well do you think that would go down?

Racket

twinklerunner wrote: »

Sky's on-line tv guide indicates that all today's programmes are in HD

Pretty sure that guide puts the HD tag on everything that's on a HD channel, no matter the source material.

twinklerunner

twinklerunner wrote: »

These are just photos of two TVs showing the countdown clock today, but notice how on Saorview part of the U on the top left corner is missing - compared to the HD version on UPC

The full U is now visible. Looks like they moved it a bit!

icdg

UK national news is still available from the BBC, Channel 4, and Sky News. While I'll miss ITN, particularly at General election time, it is not what it once was. It suffered a massive quality decrease after the 1999 changes and arguably never recovered.

LXFlyer

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

You can't have a national tv station in the Republic of Ireland giving "national" news from London.

What should they do - show UK national news before telling us they are switching to our region for local news? How well do you think that would go down?

I don't think anyone is expecting UTV Ireland to broadcast ITN news.

Given that the traditional UPC/Cablelink package was the Irish channels plus the 4 main UK terrestrial channels, I would like them to continue providing precisely that.

Give us a version of ITV1 separate from UTV Ireland. They are not the same television stations.

twinklerunner

Digifriendly wrote: »

Out of interest can you add UTV Ireland under 'other channels' on a Sky HD box? If so do you know what the parameters are for it?

I read over on Digital Spy that the HD version can be viewed with a UK card .. presumably this is a UK HD subscription and I also presume that this will be corrected soon. The SD version is encrypted. I don't have the frequency to hand but it's in this thread somewhere.