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The ITV Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,009 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    icdg wrote: »
    Their NI news is UTV Live, I expect they started with that and then decided to distinguish.
    why isn't it Ireland Live at 6:30? if they decide to include the time on the Ten news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    why isn't it Ireland Live at 6:30? if they decide to include the time on the Ten news.

    Following UTV Live at 6 and UTV Live .... after the 10 O'Clock News!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,009 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Ireland Live News at 630 up much earlier to day can't find a permalink for it so i can link directly to it

    http://player.utv.ie/programme/ireland-live

    are they only leaving it up for a day?


    UTV IrelandVerified account ‏@UTVIreland

    @lostexpectation There isn't great demand for old news so to keep it fresh each @IrelandLive is available for 24 hours after broadcast.

    ugh

    do they only have so many ad sold so they take it down, to have the ads on most recent online news

    they have items such as the cycling piece which could not be called old news after a day, people will want to see them
    Ireland Live News ‏@IrelandLive

    @lostexpectation @UTVIreland We will be making more of the news packages available online in the near future.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭AwaitYourReply


    Vincent Browne is a legend!!!
    Best thing on TV3.

    Vincent has been a legend in media circles for many years including his stint in the 1980s as Editor of the now defunct newspaper, The Sunday Tribune. Vincent has also been a regular columnist in various other Irish newspapers such as The Sunday Business Post and The Irish Times in addition to his work at both Magill and Village magazine publications at different stages. He worked at RTÉ also for a number of years and had a brief period as one of the presenters on RTÉ's flagship current affairs programme, Today Tonight if I recall. Later he presented radio programmes on RTÉ Radio 1 called "Tonight with Vincent Browne" and "Midnight Court" in the early-mid 2000s. In more recent years he has been the face of late night currents affairs programmes on TV3 which is also called "Tonight with Vincent Browne" but this has no connection with his previous RTÉ Radio 1 programme. Before he was due to take annual leave last Summer Vincent took ill and spent a period of time away from the cameras but his popular Tonight programme kept running with guest presenters until he returned in September.

    Vincent is to be admired among all Irish journalists for asking some of the toughest questions and for demanding clear answers from the IMF/ECB/EU Commission surrounding the whole Irish bailout saga. He has also made the case for a more equal society in terms of the sharing of wealth in the interests of social equality and fairness in society.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 CorkMartin


    I like their news so far. Alison Comyn is very professional and the mix of news from around the country is refreshing. It's just nice to have an alternative. Brian Dobson is just jaded at this stage.
    Give UTVI a chance - I think the 10pm slot will do well for them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭AwaitYourReply


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    icdg wrote: »
    I'm personally of the view that they are missing a trick by not including "UTV" in the programme title. I know they wanted to distinguish it from UTV Live but what about "UTV News" or suchlike? "Ireland Live" is very much regional-newsy which is the very thing they want to avoid.

    It is not just similar - it is the exact same piece of music UTV Live has used since January 2009 (and the four note signature at the beginning has featured in all their news themes since 1999). I don't get the criticism that its "Not Irish Enough" though - even TG4 doesn't go for a trad piece as their theme (though their original startup theme is a fine example), there is nothing remotely Irish about TV3's news theme, and once you take out the O'Donnell Abu sig there isn't anything Irish about RTE's either.

    Don't get me going on "Ó'Donnell Abú" the signature theme for Radio Éireann/RTÉ Radio 1 - Many years ago in the early-mid 1980s when our national radio channels were required to close down each night, I had the misfortune of waking up early one morning around 06:15am to what sounded exactly like a music box jingle playing of "Ó'Donnell Abú" over and over and over again until RTÉ Radio 1 opened for a new day at 06:30am. It sounded like an infants toy that would not be quiet!

    I've always hated that UTV(NI) theme music so much so that if I wanted to follow a particular breaking news story from Northern Ireland, I tended to prefer tuning in to BBC Newsline instead.

    I take your point about the theme music on other channels not being very Irish sounding in nature either - I just cannot stand the UTV(NI) and now the "Ireland Live" news theme on UTV Ireland. I just do not find it catchy in comparison to BBC News/itv News/Channel 4 News either. Sky News used also have some great news themes since it first started in 1989 but the current one they have been using since 2010 is so unimpressive compared to what has gone before.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭AwaitYourReply


    CorkMartin wrote: »
    I like their news so far. Alison Comyn is very professional and the mix of news from around the country is refreshing. It's just nice to have an alternative. Brian Dobson is just jaded at this stage.
    Give UTVI a chance - I think the 10pm slot will do well for them.

    You are spot on about Alison Comyn and there is many positive aspects to this news programme. I think Chris Donoghue will rise to the challenge in the same way he has done on NewsTalk. I can assure you that if he was not up to the task he would never have lasted this long at a Denis O'Brien run operation.

    That said, I think they will need to tweak things and on my list would be the signature theme music, some of the graphics need to be modified as the "Ireland Live" logo in bottom left corner lacks any real presence on the screen given how tiny the text size/font is. If it was me, I would recommend they remove the usual on-screen DOG (i.e.) UTV Ireland during all their news programmes and insert UTV into "Ireland Live" box enclosure at bottom left corner of screen.

    UTV
    Ireland
    Live

    All the various colour greens used in different graphics can come across as overkill - a bit more of the subtle reminders that this is Irish is all that is required in my view.

    On the positive side, the spread of regional/local news reports is to be commended by their Ireland Live news gathering operation. I hope they keep this up as it is excellent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭AwaitYourReply


    I did not get to view much of tonight's full programme

    Did any of the below segments form part of the Ireland Live at 10 news programme on UTV Ireland this evening ?

    Business News: Currencies, Closing Stockmarkets in Dublin, London, Paris, Frankfurt, New York, Tokyo, Hong Kong
    Sports News: Local, National, Europe, Rest of World
    Entertainment News: Hollywood, Bollywood etc;
    And Finally...(Funny/Strange/Odd human interest type story)
    Preview of Tomorrow Morning's Newspapers with invited guest reviewer(s)

    TV3 in Ballymount must be getting uneasy as Tonight with Vincent Browne started earlier tonight at 10:40pm running until around 12:05am so; they are watching this very closely I suspect!


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭JamesyBelfast


    Vincent is to be admired among all Irish journalists for asking some of the toughest questions and for demanding clear answers from the IMF/ECB/EU Commission surrounding the whole Irish bailout saga. He has also made the case for a more equal society in terms of the sharing of wealth in the interests of social equality and fairness in society.

    Agree completely and IMO he is WASTED being on TV3.
    Loved his grilling of the presidential candidates a couple of years ago and his shows when the IMF bailout started were off the scale amazing.

    He is also funny as.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,758 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Why would any news bulletin in this day and age include stock markets and currencies? Anyone actually interested in that sort of thing has had much better sources of information available to them for decades.

    On Newstalk it's just an excuse to mention a sponsor. Nobody cares about the figures being read out. It's not news.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    TV3 in Ballymount must be getting uneasy as Tonight with Vincent Browne started earlier tonight at 10:40pm running until around 12:05am so; they are watching this very closely I suspect!

    Nothing to do with UTVI's news. Their film ended at 10.40, so they began Vincent Browne earlier. It has occurred many times in previous years.

    Although, there are special Vincent Browne shows on tonight and tomorrow. one looking back at 1001 nights of the Tonight show, and another reviewing TV3's funded film The Guarantee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,058 ✭✭✭Digifriendly


    I completely disagree. They provide an excellent news service for a commercial station with a population of 1.6 million people and regularly beats it's local rival - BBC NI.

    Reference in post you're responding to was to UTV Ireland news not UTV N. Ireland news!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    Do we know yet if the episodes of Benidorm and Birds Of A Feather tomorrow are the new episodes that showing on UTVNI? Can't find any episode information anywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭twinklerunner


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Twitter is the exact same - why they didn't leave UTVNI on UPC too is beyond me - what the hell did they expect would happen?

    Intersting reply from UTVI on Twitter re: UPC removing the NI version from the platform

    https://twitter.com/cottageireland/status/552774780039233537


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭JamesyBelfast


    Intersting reply from UTVI on Twitter re: UPC removing the NI version from the platform

    Very interesting! Don't believe it though.

    If UTV NI was left or put back on UPC (or similarly if it had not been removed from the Sky EPG) - pretty much no-one would be bothering with UTV-Ireland. It would get lost completely.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭irishmusicfeed


    Very interesting! Don't believe it though.

    If UTV NI was left or put back on UPC (or similarly if it had not been removed from the Sky EPG) - pretty much no-one would be bothering with UTV-Ireland. It would get lost completely.

    So true... there's no way the decision was left to UPC... why did UTV Northern Ireland geoblock its UTV player on the same day UTV Ireland launched, if that was the case. I think UPC Ireland should just start broadcasting UTVNI as UTV are just playing a game with them. I never watched UTVNI and I am actually impressed with their news coverage on UTV Ireland, but people seem really angry about this change.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ftakeith


    Very interesting! Don't believe it though.

    If UTV NI was left or put back on UPC (or similarly if it had not been removed from the Sky EPG) - pretty much no-one would be bothering with UTV-Ireland. It would get lost completely.

    UPC TV viewers in Switzerland get ITV1hd, itv2, itv3 and itv4

    the live sport content on itv4 is not blocked

    As I have a sister that lives there

    its also a few euros cheaper than the upc tv ireland before the increases


  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭irishmusicfeed


    ftakeith wrote: »
    UPC TV viewers in Switzerland get ITV1hd, itv2, itv3 and itv4

    the live sport content on itv4 is not blocked

    As I have a sister that lives there

    its also a few euros cheaper than the upc tv ireland before the increases

    Well from my experience of Switzerland as previously living there (the country is very expensive to live in but)...UPC Cablecom is cheaper than UPC Ireland because firstly two different countries, secondly Switzerland has a population of over 8 million thus services are technically cheaper. In Switzerland telecommunications are more developed and finally under Swiss laws all communications have to be in French, German, Italian and in most cases English hence why UPC Cablecom offers the freely available UK channels to cater to English speakers in the country...

    As UTVNI do not hold Republic of Ireland rights maybe ITV will not allow them to screen such content unless its on the new UTV channel. Also UTV Media are to blame they obviously offered UPC Ireland, UTV Ireland as it makes no commercial sense for them to offer UTVNI.... I couldn't care less whether they offer one or the two channels as I don't watch UTV but I am very impressed by their news so much better than TV3 and creates competition which is needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    I think that TV3 would be very annoied of UTV Proper continued on UPC. I'd say that UPC took the decision (if it was theirs) to drop UTV because of conflicting rights with TV3.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,928 ✭✭✭dubmick


    Apologies if already asked, is UTV Ireland in HD on saorview? I can only find the standard definition channel.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,940 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    There is only one version of a channel on Saorview. UTVi is only SD at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    There is only one version of a channel on Saorview. UTVi is only SD at the moment.

    Always perplexed at why Eircom have HD and SD versions of channels as all of their custs have HD boxes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,819 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    ftakeith wrote: »
    UPC TV viewers in Switzerland get ITV1hd, itv2, itv3 and itv4

    the live sport content on itv4 is not blocked

    As I have a sister that lives there

    its also a few euros cheaper than the upc tv ireland before the increases

    Switzerland have different rules relating to FTA satellite content being used by cable providers. Also Switzerland are not in the EU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,705 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    The 6.30 programme seems to be lacking in hard news and seems to fill it's time with longer than normal reports.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,980 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    its a weird situation we are in now with this

    Saorview: people who only have access to Saorview outside of a FreeView over spill region have clearly gained alot from UTV Ireland. Much more choice as previously just RTE and TV3.

    UPC: Huge loss to UPC viewers, loss of all ITV news, Movies and Sport, as well as some drama and entertainment. The added price increase just adds insult to injury.

    Sky: another gain. some ITV programming on UTV Ireland is finally recordable and available to some viewers in very high quality HD. Sky have also changed the other channel settings with extra frequency inputs to allow tuning in of HD versions of all ITV regions. ITV HD was not addable for nearly a year and now it's back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,705 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Gonzo wrote: »
    its a weird situation we are in now with this

    Saorview: people who only have access to Saorview outside of a FreeView over spill region have clearly gained alot from UTV Ireland. Much more choice as previously just RTE and TV3.

    UPC: Huge loss to UPC viewers, loss of all ITV news, Movies and Sport, as well as some drama and entertainment. The added price increase just adds insult to injury.

    Sky: another gain. some ITV programming on UTV Ireland is finally recordable and available to some viewers in very high quality HD. Sky have also changed the other channel settings with extra frequency inputs to allow tuning in of HD versions of all ITV regions. ITV HD was not addable for nearly a year and now it's back.

    So big boost for Sky?

    I miss ITV News for international news. I never liked the BBC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,705 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    endakenny wrote: »
    Who is the English journalist in Boston who Chris was talking to on Monday's Ireland Live at 10? (It disappears from the Player after 24 hours).

    I'm guessing it's an ITN reporter for Channel 5. They used an ITN reporter for Paris link up today as well.

    It's a big meh and I think they're better off leaving it out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 956 ✭✭✭endakenny


    I'm guessing it's an ITN reporter for Channel 5. They used an ITN reporter for Paris link up today as well.

    It's a big meh and I think they're better off leaving it out.
    Actually, I just found out two minutes ago. He is Nick Harper. Thanks for the reply.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 956 ✭✭✭endakenny


    So big boost for Sky?

    I miss ITV News for international news. I never liked the BBC.

    You can still watch Channel 4 News (produced, like ITV News, by ITN). Furthermore, reports on the ITV News website cannot be watched by internet users outside the UK but reports on the Channel 4 website are available in the Republic. Furthermore, ITN reports appear sometimes on CNN International (ITN is an affiliate with CNN).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 956 ✭✭✭endakenny


    I'm guessing it's an ITN reporter for Channel 5. They used an ITN reporter for Paris link up today as well.

    It's a big meh and I think they're better off leaving it out.
    Actually, Nick Harper is with CCTV (China Central TV) America.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAwv3Dfdfh4


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 956 ✭✭✭endakenny


    I'm guessing it's an ITN reporter for Channel 5. They used an ITN reporter for Paris link up today as well.

    It's a big meh and I think they're better off leaving it out.

    Jack Parrock, the reporter who Alison interviewed today, is with China Central TV. It is disappointing that Ireland Live utlises reporters who are employed by the broadcaster of a totalitarian state.


  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭The Dark Knight


    endakenny wrote: »
    Jack Parrock, the reporter who Alison interviewed today, is with China Central TV. It is disappointing that Ireland Live utlises reporters who are employed by the broadcaster of a totalitarian state.
    endakenny wrote: »
    Actually, Nick Harper is with CCTV (China Central TV) America.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAwv3Dfdfh4

    Interesting.... Thanks for that bit of research.
    Surprised they are not using the ITN network. Of course it would be better if they could hire some irish international correspondents. Maybe one in Europe at least. Maybe in time to come.

    Watching "Ireland Live at 10" now.
    Have to say, I'm very impressed with how much it has improved since the launch on Monday. Almost mistake free, and solid performances from all reporters and presenters. Definitely better that TV3 have even been, and comparing OK to RTE. (Apart from RTE having Tony Connolly in Paris).

    Speaking of that UTV live link up to Paris....it was probably the worst thing tonight. Felt very unnatural. Have a feeling it was a one-way link.
    May have even been pre recorded.....They'd never to that - would they? :-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭AwaitYourReply


    endakenny wrote: »
    You can still watch Channel 4 News (produced, like ITV News, by ITN). Furthermore, reports on the ITV News website cannot be watched by internet users outside the UK but reports on the Channel 4 website are available in the Republic. Furthermore, ITN reports appear sometimes on CNN International (ITN is an affiliate with CNN).

    While you are correct, there is still a very unique style to how ITN produce/present itv News @6:30pm Vs Channel 4 News @7:00pm - To me, they are clearly aimed at very different demographics. itv News is informative and entertaining and caters much more for Joe Public in the UK whereas Channel 4 is more stuffy and appeals more to business professionals/white collar employees and is closer in style to BBC 2 Newsnight.

    I can fully understand those UPC Ireland subscribers that are upset with UTV/UPC who really miss itv News output which had been an essential ingredient on UTV(NI) and itv network but does not form any part of the newly launched channel UTV Ireland. People are not only loyal to certain channels and brands, they are also loyal to specific programmes and that even includes news programmes that originate from outside this state.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭doc11


    While you are correct, there is still a very unique style to how ITN produce/present itv News @6:30pm Vs Channel 4 News @7:00pm - To me, they are clearly aimed at very different demographics. itv News is informative and entertaining and caters much more for Joe Public in the UK whereas Channel 4 is more stuffy and appeals more to business professionals/white collar employees and is closer in style to BBC 2 Newsnight.

    I can fully understand those UPC Ireland subscribers that are upset with UTV/UPC who really miss itv News output which had been an essential ingredient on UTV(NI) and itv network but does not form any part of the newly launched channel UTV Ireland. People are not only loyal to certain channels and brands, they are also loyal to specific programmes and that even includes news programes that originate from outside this state.

    Ah common ITV news audience would be absolutely tiny. People just don't like the idea of losing a channel. All ITV programes are generously shown across tv3,3e,UTVi and the various ITV (2,3,4,be,encore) channels. Honestly I don't think we need access to a channel to show more episodes of Jeremy kyle. With the 3 Irish channel providing almost continuous news coverage in the evenings, various international 24hr news stations available as well as the remaining british news broadcast I would find it inconceivable that anyone would miss what happened in the house of commons or Royal family.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 956 ✭✭✭endakenny


    Gonzo wrote: »
    its a weird situation we are in now with this

    Saorview: people who only have access to Saorview outside of a FreeView over spill region have clearly gained alot from UTV Ireland. Much more choice as previously just RTE and TV3.

    UPC: Huge loss to UPC viewers, loss of all ITV news, Movies and Sport, as well as some drama and entertainment. The added price increase just adds insult to injury.

    Sky: another gain. some ITV programming on UTV Ireland is finally recordable and available to some viewers in very high quality HD. Sky have also changed the other channel settings with extra frequency inputs to allow tuning in of HD versions of all ITV regions. ITV HD was not addable for nearly a year and now it's back.
    Another gain is that there is a UTV Player for Internet users in the Republic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    endakenny wrote: »
    Another gain is that there is a UTV Player for Internet users in the Republic.

    It's easy to get the other players too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭AwaitYourReply


    Gonzo wrote: »
    its a weird situation we are in now with this

    Saorview: people who only have access to Saorview outside of a FreeView over spill region have clearly gained alot from UTV Ireland. Much more choice as previously just RTE and TV3.

    UPC: Huge loss to UPC viewers, loss of all ITV news, Movies and Sport, as well as some drama and entertainment. The added price increase just adds insult to injury.

    Sky: another gain. some ITV programming on UTV Ireland is finally recordable and available to some viewers in very high quality HD. Sky have also changed the other channel settings with extra frequency inputs to allow tuning in of HD versions of all ITV regions. ITV HD was not addable for nearly a year and now it's back.

    Saorview has had a bit more than just RTÉ and TV3 to be fair to this Irish owned Free-To-Air (FTA) digital platform. That description almost sounds like only two channels are on offer with the platform! I know some people will complain that it's not FREE because all households are required to have a TV Licence however; if you wish to view any of the Irish terrestrial tv channels with Sky Digital you must always have an active subscription as these services are all encrypted on satellite due to programming rights issues mainly restricted to Ireland in most (if not all) circumstances.

    In real terms, I think it is fair to say that you probably get better value for the TV Licence now that you did 5-7 years ago given the bigger choice and wider range of tv/radio services. Hopefully, things will improve further in the next few years on this subscription-free Irish digital terrestrial platform.

    Saorview TV:


    RTÉ One HD (not yet HD on Sky-not FTA on Sky due to ROI/NI only rights)
    RTÉ 2 HD (not FTA on Sky due to ROI/NI only rights)
    TV3 (not FTA on Sky due to ROI only rights)
    TG4 (not FTA on Sky due to ROI/NI only rights)
    3e (not FTA on Sky due to ROI only rights)
    UTV Ireland (launched 01/01/2015 not FTA on Sky due to ROI only rights)
    RTÉjr (not FTA on Sky due to ROI only rights)
    RTÉ One+1 (not yet on Sky Digital)
    RTÉ News Now (not yet on Sky Digital)

    RTÉ Aertel (Digital Teletext Service)

    Saorview Radio:

    RTÉ Radio 1 fm
    RTÉ Radio 1 Extra
    RTÉ 2fm
    RTÉ lyric fm
    RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta (RnaG)
    RTÉ junior (runs 07:00 - 20:58hrs)
    RTÉ chill (runs 21:00 - 06:58hrs)
    RTÉ pulse
    RTÉ 2XM
    RTÉ Gold


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭AwaitYourReply


    doc11 wrote: »
    Ah common ITV news audience would be absolutely tiny. People just don't like the idea of losing a channel. All ITV programes are generously shown across tv3,3e,UTVi and the various ITV (2,3,4,be,encore) channels. Honestly I don't think we need access to a channel to show more episodes of Jeremy kyle. With the 3 Irish channel providing almost continuous news coverage in the evenings, various international 24hr news stations available as well as the remaining british news broadcast I would find it inconceivable that anyone would miss what happened in the house of commons or Royal family.

    Well, there seems to be quite a lot of the viewing folk that beg to differ with your analysis since UTV Ireland launched on 01/01/2015 and one of the main programmes people seemed to identify with on the UTV(NI) channel was the loss of itv News despite all the other international news sources available to the audience. I wonder had UTV Media plc and UPC Ireland carried out adequate research in advance of UTV Ireland's launch perhaps they may have avoided such a negative backlash from so many UPC Ireland cable subscribers as it must be an embarrassment to them. itv encore is a complete red herring for starters as it has never been made available as a channel option to Sky Digital viewers here in the Republic of Ireland since that channel launched in 2014 - itv encore is an encrypted channel and is exclusive to Sky Digital subscribers in the UK only. All other itv channels are free-to-air and may be manually added to "Other Channels" on a Sky Digibox or will just be accessible via a generic free to air satellite box once the dish is pointed at the same Astra satellite focused tightly on Ireland/UK.

    Other thing I would say that whatever about the House of Commons, you will find that one of the institutions that has always fascinated the Irish public, especially many women, is the British Royal Family whether they care to admit it or not - During the troubles Irish people often loved to hate them and now many people are curious if and when a scandal or controversy develops involving the royals.

    If viewers in cable areas have been accustomed to watching certain programmes over many years then they are quite entitled to be upset if it has been pulled at short notice and then hit by a noticeable price hike in their cable tv subscription. If UPC Ireland viewers were used to watching Jeremy Kyle, itv news or any other show multiple times on UTV(NI) this is their choice too especially if they have been paying to receive a cable tv service unlike a free-to-air satellite service. I am ok myself but I can understand their frustration if I was in the same situation I would be disappointed too if I no longer had access to programmes I enjoyed watching on a regular basis over many years. Some people may have been in the middle of following a particular drama series and it may be unavailable on UTV Ireland or else behind in the broadcasting schedule which can irritate viewers too. They have a right to express their views and negative feedback as they have been forgotten about in this whole situation from what I can see.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭AwaitYourReply


    So big boost for Sky?

    I miss ITV News for international news. I never liked the BBC.

    Well yes I've always liked itv News on UTV over the years but what about the BBC News channel (and it's sister international version: BBC World News television channel) and the iconic top of the hour countdown sequences with theme music and clock!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVd4o6BjGNs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orcjjmHlKIE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RK-fTFMCbM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zk1_WePJWc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RprVGZ4g74E


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,922 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    I'm not sure what any of that has to do with UTV


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    Well, there seems to be quite a lot of the viewing folk that beg to differ with your analysis since UTV Ireland launched on 01/01/2015 and one of the main programmes people seemed to identify with on the UTV(NI) channel was the loss of itv News despite all the other international news sources available to the audience. I wonder had UTV Media plc and UPC Ireland carried out adequate research in advance of UTV Ireland's launch perhaps they may have avoided such a negative backlash from so many UPC Ireland cable subscribers as it must be an embarrassment to them. itv encore is a complete red herring for starters as it has never been made available as a channel option to Sky Digital viewers here in the Republic of Ireland since that channel launched in 2014 - itv encore is an encrypted channel and is exclusive to Sky Digital subscribers in the UK only. All other itv channels are free-to-air and may be manually added to "Other Channels" on a Sky Digibox or will just be accessible via a generic free to air satellite box once the dish is pointed at the same Astra satellite focused tightly on Ireland/UK.

    Other thing I would say that whatever about the House of Commons, you will find that one of the institutions that has always fascinated the Irish public, especially many women, is the British Royal Family whether they care to admit it or not - During the troubles Irish people often loved to hate them and now many people are curious if and when a scandal or controversy develops involving the royals.

    If viewers in cable areas have been accustomed to watching certain programmes over many years then they are quite entitled to be upset if it has been pulled at short notice and then hit by a noticeable price hike in their cable tv subscription. If UPC Ireland viewers were used to watching Jeremy Kyle, itv news or any other show multiple times on UTV(NI) this is their choice too especially if they have been paying to receive a cable tv service unlike a free-to-air satellite service. I am ok myself but I can understand their frustration if I was in the same situation I would be disappointed too if I no longer had access to programmes I enjoyed watching on a regular basis over many years. Some people may have been in the middle of following a particular drama series and it may be unavailable on UTV Ireland or else behind in the broadcasting schedule which can irritate viewers too. They have a right to express their views and negative feedback as they have been forgotten about in this whole situation from what I can see.

    ITV Encore is available here on a sky box through the other channels if you have a hd sub! So is channel 5hd.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ftakeith


    zorro2566 wrote: »
    ITV Encore is available here on a sky box through the other channels if you have a hd sub! So is channel 5hd.

    most of ITV's Encore content is already available through the ITV channel of the sky box sets
    So you can record it through your sky box such as:

    Band of gold series 1 and 2
    Series 3 is terrible

    Broadchurch series 1
    and then record series 2 from the tv3 player

    Mrs Briggs complete series


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You can't download all of the ITV programmes on Sky's On Demand service even though they are listed on the Irish menu. I tried to download Broadchurch Series 1 on it but a message popped up to 'contact the broadcaster'.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ftakeith


    zorro2566 wrote: »
    You can't download all of the ITV programmes on Sky's On Demand service even though they are listed on the Irish menu. I tried to download Broadchurch Series 1 on it but a message popped up to 'contact the broadcaster'.

    I have the hd pack and I downloaded the first episode of broadchurch series 1 from ITV yesterday as a test
    Then watched the first few minutes as a test

    I only have the HD pack for the sky boxed sets


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,922 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Laura Slattery has a piece in the Irish Times today regarding UTV Ireland, she is I think the first journalist to acknowledge the anger out there from UPC customers at losing UTV.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/not-a-corker-yet-schedule-challenges-for-utv-ireland-1.2056756


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ftakeith


    icdg wrote: »
    Laura Slattery has a piece in the Irish Times today regarding UTV Ireland, she is I think the first journalist to acknowledge the anger out there from UPC customers at losing UTV.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/not-a-corker-yet-schedule-challenges-for-utv-ireland-1.2056756

    a good article

    I think in 2 years, TV3 and UTV ireland will be the one company with 3e been replaced by UTV Ireland in EPG


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 956 ✭✭✭endakenny


    icdg wrote: »
    Laura Slattery has a piece in the Irish Times today regarding UTV Ireland, she is I think the first journalist to acknowledge the anger out there from UPC customers at losing UTV.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/not-a-corker-yet-schedule-challenges-for-utv-ireland-1.2056756

    According to her, UPC customers have lost "Benidorm". Actually, they haven't. UTV Ireland shows it a few days after the ITV network shows it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ftakeith


    http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/ger-gilroy-to-front-utvs-weekly-sports-programme-30892506.html

    UTV Ireland need now is live sport but most of the decent sport tv rights are signed already


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    icdg wrote: »
    Laura Slattery has a piece in the Irish Times today regarding UTV Ireland, she is I think the first journalist to acknowledge the anger out there from UPC customers at losing UTV.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/not-a-corker-yet-schedule-challenges-for-utv-ireland-1.2056756

    I have to say I think she is being far to soft on UTV Ireland. She seems to think that they haven't splurged on the channel. She fails to recognise that UTV Ireland's has only bought programmes from the main distributors of ITV programmes and have completely forgotten about US TV and Film. They've shown 3 films so far and it looks like they have none schedule this week. While ITV repeat their films across 2, 3 and 4 of course UPC customers are going to be annoied by an established player coming into the market with little to offer.
    And if the channel does evolve, so too should its branding. The “Ireland” in UTV Ireland is problematic in that it creates expectations. But when it slaps up a “not currently available in the Republic” graphic over the viewer competitions run by its UK daytime imports, the audience is only reminded of the non-Irishness of the schedule.

    All too often happened with TV3, I imagine that they continue to run comps from ITV that refer to ITV2!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭MarkK


    Elmo wrote: »
    ... have completely forgotten about US TV and Film.

    I'm not sure that's fair, isn't it more likely that other broadcasters had already bought up the RoI rights for recent US TV and movies so there is slim pickings available to buy?


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