The ITV Thread

Elmo

Wait it's called good morning Britain and broadcasts to the UK!?!??

radiowaves

Elmo wrote: »

Wait it's called good morning Britain and broadcasts to the UK!?!??

A point I made many pages ago - no toys ejected from prams in the northern part of the island

chasingdragons

radiowaves wrote: »

A point I made many pages ago - no toys ejected from prams in the northern part of the island

Actually people shouldn't get too excited as ITV will probably axe the show by September.

endakenny

chasingdragons wrote: »

Actually people shouldn't get too excited as ITV will probably axe the show by September.

If it axed, it will have to be replaced. Otherwise, ITV would be in breach of the Channel 3 breakfast licence.

chasingdragons

endakenny wrote: »

If it axed, it will have to be replaced. Otherwise, ITV would be in breach of the Channel 3 breakfast licence.

This is very true.

Richard

Carnacalla wrote: »

They are all the UK, Ireland is not the UK.

Despite the fact you keep saying that, the aren't.

They all use English pounds

No such thing!

They are all (partly) governed by England.

England doesn't govern anyone. Not even itself.

Ireland is seperate from the UK, is completely governed from Dublin (A cycnic may say its governed in Europe now) and dont use pounds. Why should we be treated the same as the other British territories?

I bet you'll be after the plug sockets next.

chasingdragons

Richard wrote: »

Despite the fact you keep saying that, the aren't.

They all use English pounds[/quote
No such thing!

They all use Pound Sterling - which is used by all regions of the UK and the UK's Crown dependencies. Despite each region of the UK using a varied version of the pound sterling they are all pegged to what the Bank of England states, also all pounds distrubted by the Bank of England can be used by all regions in the UK. Some problems can arise if you go to other regions of the UK where the Northern Ireland pound is unlikely to be accepted outside the UK.

England doesn't govern anyone. Not even itself.

England doesn't essentially govern anyone but its own citizens in the region/country called England...the Act of Union for example between England and Scotland. The Act of Union - the Scottish Parliament and the English Parliament united to form the Parliament of Great Britain, based in the Palace of Westminster in London. Despite efforts by the Scottish government to seek more autonomy in some areas... international relations are governed by the UK aka England because all roads lead to London so to speak.


I bet you'll be after the plug socket next.

Sockets - the standard European socket is sufficient enough for millions across Europe so I'm not sure as to why we (Ireland & the UK) could not adopt a similar socket tho wattage etc would have to be changed etc etc.

It is important to note we are Irish and European not British etc.

icdg

Back on topic please.

formerly scottish paddy

I don't know why people here in the RoI expect UTV (I) to produce programmes for this audience when they've hardly produced any for their "home" audience in NI since 1959! You get the local news and that's about it. Of their two studios in Belfast one is permanently mothballed. UTV and other small stations were setup to put a local gloss on ITV network output.........oh and collect the advertising revenue. Why did anyone think they would do anything different down here??

icdg

irishmusicfeed and chasingdragons both permanently banned and reported to the admins for breaking the boards.ie rule that one may only have one account

chasingdragons

icdg wrote: »

irishmusicfeed and chasingdragons both permanently banned and reported to the admins for breaking the boards.ie rule that one may only have one account

Sorry what have I actually done?

irishfeen

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A Disgrace

Well I think you could say that the addition of GMB is a contentious issue, regardless of where you stand on it and another UTVI PR disaster – putting all nationalism aside, UTVI have spectacularly misjudged the Irish market, and by adding this to their schedule, they show no signs of learning their lessons

UTVI have been fumbling about since the get-go, have no clear identity and have done the bare minimum required to make themselves relevant to an Irish audience – all the while eating into the market share of advertising revenue that RTE, TG4 and TV3 all fight for, and ultimately, use to produce programming. The end result it that the three channels that actually produce home-grown content, now have less money to do so, whilst UTVI invest their share in UK placeholders, designed to hold sway until the soaps come on

ftakeith

A Disgrace wrote: »

Well I think you could say that the addition of GMB is a contentious issue, regardless of where you stand on it and another UTVI PR disaster – putting all nationalism aside, UTVI have spectacularly misjudged the Irish market, and by adding this to their schedule, they show no signs of learning their lessons

UTVI have been fumbling about since the get-go, have no clear identity and have done the bare minimum required to make themselves relevant to an Irish audience – all the while eating into the market share of advertising revenue that RTE, TG4 and TV3 all fight for, and ultimately, use to produce programming. The end result it that the three channels that actually produce home-grown content, now have less money to do so, whilst UTVI invest their share in UK placeholders, designed to hold sway until the soaps come on

UTVI are a disaster so far

They had over a year to get the content right

News At 10 should be 30 minutes instead of 1 hour

Have news on at the weekends at 630pm

have their weekday evening news at 5pm

They need to have all the ITV content, buy it off TV3 or buy TV3

Have all the ITV content at the same time as UTVNI

Elmo

No one is going to buy TV3 it's in a heap financially much of what it is doing now needed to be done when they had coro st and Emmers, TV3 management are as much to blame for the erosion of there market share as UTV Ireland

An Ciarraioch

Elmo wrote: »

No one is going to buy TV3 it's in a heap financially much of what it is doing now needed to be done when they had coro st and Emmers, TV3 management are as much to blame for the erosion of there market share as UTV Ireland

Indeed, they'd 17 years to build a brand, and therefore ensure viewer loyalty, but VB aside, it was still largely seen as "the channel with the soaps". As mentioned, Crossfire and the Lie were actually decent quizzes, but without any lead-in, they got lost in the ether. If they move current affairs forward to 9-10 p.m., it might boost ratings until the autumn revenue-earners kick in.

iseegirls

Piece from The Star a few days ago:

Ms Curtis also said the channel was the second most-watched TV channel in Ireland for 14 of its first 28 days of broadcasting between January 1 and January 28 at peak times.

http://www.thestar.ie/star/utv-ireland-claims-it-has-doubled-its-audience-58399/

12 of those nights had Coronation Street, and then take 2 out of 4 of the Thursdays which had a double Emmerdale. Also note that she talks about the peak times. If this is the case, then they must be really struggling for viewers outside of 7-10 in the daytime and the weekends, which is bringing their overall share value down a lot.

Elmo

1 Coronation Street 409
2 Coronation Street 391
3 Coronation Street 351
4 Coronation Street 338
5 Coronation Street 331
6 Emmerdale 287
7 Emmerdale 266
8 Emmerdale 266
9 Emmerdale 252
10 Emmerdale 249
11 Emmerdale 238
12 Rare Breed: A Farming Year 163
13 Birds Of A Feather 113
14 Doc Martin 112
15 Surprise Surprise 102
16 Midsomer Murders 93
17 The Cruise Ship 89
18 James Nesbitt's Ireland 81
19 Cilla 63
20 Harry Hill's Stars In Their Eyes 56


UTV are really making the same mistakes TV3 made. Fair enough it is early days for the channel but largely speaking they have just increase their audience for Coro St and Emmers and not much else.

Hopefully TAM Ireland will also detail UTV's audience share for Jan along with UTV Ireland.

irishfeen

Elmo wrote: »

1 Coronation Street 409
2 Coronation Street 391
3 Coronation Street 351
4 Coronation Street 338
5 Coronation Street 331
6 Emmerdale 287
7 Emmerdale 266
8 Emmerdale 266
9 Emmerdale 252
10 Emmerdale 249
11 Emmerdale 238
12 Rare Breed: A Farming Year 163
13 Birds Of A Feather 113
14 Doc Martin 112
15 Surprise Surprise 102
16 Midsomer Murders 93
17 The Cruise Ship 89
18 James Nesbitt's Ireland 81
19 Cilla 63
20 Harry Hill's Stars In Their Eyes 56


UTV are really making the same mistakes TV3 made. Fair enough it is early days for the channel but largely speaking they have just increase their audience for Coro St and Emmers and not much else.

Hopefully TAM Ireland will also detail UTV's audience share for Jan along with UTV Ireland.

163k for Rare Breed is very good again - they won't be too concerned with those figure I would hazard a guess... the time to judge them on their entire schedule is well down the road yet. I think moving to 105 on sky would make a difference too... whether that is possible long term remains to be seen.

Infoanon

Elmo wrote: »

Hopefully TAM Ireland will also detail UTV's audience share for Jan along with UTV Ireland.

Thats a very good point - Sky viewers would have little or no reason to press 116 when they are use to watching UTV HD on other channels imho.

Elmo

irishfeen wrote: »

163k for Rare Breed is very good again - they won't be too concerned with those figure I would hazard a guess... the time to judge them on their entire schedule is well down the road yet. I think moving to 105 on sky would make a difference too... whether that is possible long term remains to be seen.

Only real reason is because its sandwiched between Coro St, like wise the repeat of James Nesbitt's Ireland

Elmo

Last week's audience share

RTÉ One 19.9
TV3 7.6
UTV IRELAND 5.8
RTÉ2 4.9
BBC One 3.6
3e 2.6
Sky Sports 1 1.8
TG4 1.7
Channel 4 1.6
Sky Sports News HQ 1.2
BBC Two 1.2
Sky 1 0.8
Comedy Central 0.8
UTV 0.7
E4 0.7
Sky Living 0.7
RTÉjr 0.7
Sky News 0.6
Nick Jr 0.6
RTÉ One + 1 0.6
TLC 0.6
More4 0.6
GOLD 0.5
At The Races 0.5
Universal Channel 0.5
Other 39.2

Flip Flop

Infoanon wrote: »

Thats a very good point - Sky viewers would have little or no reason to press 116 when they are use to watching UTV HD on other channels imho.

Except that you can't pause, rewind or record via ITV HD.

Infoanon

Flip Flop wrote: »

Except that you can't pause, rewind or record via ITV HD.

True but how many viewers would switch for that reason ?

icdg

Interesting that UTV NI is still scoring so highly despite only not being on any EPG - the same as E4, which has prominent position on both Sky and UPC.

(Even more intesting is how high Sky Sports News rates - higher than any non-terrestrial except for Sky Sports 1)

twinklerunner

Elmo wrote: »

1 Coronation Street 409
2 Coronation Street 391
3 Coronation Street 351
4 Coronation Street 338
5 Coronation Street 331
6 Emmerdale 287
7 Emmerdale 266
8 Emmerdale 266
9 Emmerdale 252
10 Emmerdale 249
11 Emmerdale 238
12 Rare Breed: A Farming Year 163
13 Birds Of A Feather 113
14 Doc Martin 112
15 Surprise Surprise 102
16 Midsomer Murders 93
17 The Cruise Ship 89
18 James Nesbitt's Ireland 81
19 Cilla 63
20 Harry Hill's Stars In Their Eyes 56

UTV are really making the same mistakes TV3 made. Fair enough it is early days for the channel but largely speaking they have just increase their audience for Coro St and Emmers and not much else.

Hopefully TAM Ireland will also detail UTV's audience share for Jan along with UTV Ireland.

Cila did well to register on that list, given that it's up against the Late Late.

mikom

Elmo wrote: »

Last week's audience share

RTÉ One 19.9
TV3 7.6
UTV IRELAND 5.8
RTÉ2 4.9
BBC One 3.6
3e 2.6
Sky Sports 1 1.8
TG4 1.7
Channel 4 1.6
Sky Sports News HQ 1.2
BBC Two 1.2
Sky 1 0.8
Comedy Central 0.8
UTV 0.7
E4 0.7
Sky Living 0.7
RTÉjr 0.7
Sky News 0.6
Nick Jr 0.6
RTÉ One + 1 0.6
TLC 0.6
More4 0.6
GOLD 0.5
At The Races 0.5
Universal Channel 0.5
Other 39.2

The RTÉ2 revamp went well by the looks of it..........

greendom

Infoanon wrote: »

True but how many viewers would switch for that reason ?

plenty - PVRs have revolutionised how people watch tv. I imagine the vast majority of people with these devices would switch.

JamesyBelfast

How funny is it that on the UTV-Ireland Saorview EPG we have "GMB" yet when I switch over to UTV on Freeview it's on the EPG as "Good Morning Britain"!

UTV are a laugh! :-)

galtee boy

Elmo wrote: »

Last week's audience share

RTÉ One 19.9
TV3 7.6
UTV IRELAND 5.8
RTÉ2 4.9
BBC One 3.6
3e 2.6
Sky Sports 1 1.8
TG4 1.7
Channel 4 1.6
Sky Sports News HQ 1.2
BBC Two 1.2
Sky 1 0.8
Comedy Central 0.8
UTV 0.7
E4 0.7
Sky Living 0.7
RTÉjr 0.7
Sky News 0.6
Nick Jr 0.6
RTÉ One + 1 0.6
TLC 0.6
More4 0.6
GOLD 0.5
At The Races 0.5
Universal Channel 0.5
Other 39.2

What channels make up " Other", that's a huge audience share, 39% ?