The ITV Thread

Capt'n Midnight · 15-06-2015 8:56pm

Sam Russell wrote: »

UTVi is transmitted on Saorview which is also FTA and can be received by well over 98% of the population using a rooftop aerial and a suitable receiver.

Not even close to 98%

grand if you are in the country , apart from a few valleys

People who live in apartments or flats may not get saorview.

lertsnim · 15-06-2015 9:13pm

Sam Russell wrote: »

So how can UTV or UTVi be not FTA.

On satellite it is not which is the point that was made.

icdg · 15-06-2015 10:19pm

Look, I think we should call a halt to this argument. It's a bit like arguing that black is white to be honest, and it's not really much to do with UTV Ireland at all

political analyst · 15-06-2015 11:25pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Not even close to 98%

grand if you are in the country , apart from a few valleys

People who live in apartments or flats may not get saorview.

If residents of blocks of flats can't get Saorview then they'll probably have cable or Sky.

dublinman1990 · 21-06-2015 9:26pm

Pat Kenny in the round is now straying onto UTV NI's schedule tonight as it's showing the interview with Daniel and Majella O'Donnell beginning at 10:15pm.

Delta2113 · 23-06-2015 2:44pm

Utv says losses at Utv Ireland will be £11.5m in 2015.

Puddle Q · 23-06-2015 2:46pm

Just close it now.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSFWN0Z805620150623?irpc=932

Delta2113 · 23-06-2015 2:51pm

'Board has today approved an action plan' - would love to know what that is.

iseegirls · 23-06-2015 2:59pm

It really has been a failure - they have the massive advantage of having two huge soaps, but have not planned out anything outside of the two.

iseegirls · 23-06-2015 3:01pm

Delta2113 wrote: »

'Board has today approved an action plan' - would love to know what that is.

Wouldn't hold my breath. Their last plan to move the news to 5.30 led them to having around 7,000 viewers. I question their audience research team.

Delta2113 · 23-06-2015 3:31pm

People want the old Utv back -it's that simple but unlikely it will ever happen.

Elmo · 23-06-2015 3:42pm

iseegirls wrote: »

Wouldn't hold my breath. Their last plan to move the news to 5.30 led them to having around 7,000 viewers. I question their audience research team.

1. To soon to move 6:30
2. To soon to talk of 5:30 wait for a few months

People want the old Utv back -it's that simple but unlikely it will ever happen.

Only had 3% share, has increased ths 100% with UTV Ireland (5.6) and UTV proper (0.7).
Now available on Saorview and Sky.

They are too slow to look at simple change

Sam Russell · 23-06-2015 4:05pm

Could they have bought TV3 for the £11.5m?

Elmo · 23-06-2015 4:23pm

Sam Russell wrote: »

Could they have bought TV3 for the £11.5m?

No. Is That the total cost of the channel set up out side of Programme rights? Total losses.

Harry Palmr · 23-06-2015 4:26pm

Delta2113 wrote: »

Utv says losses at Utv Ireland will be £11.5m in 2015.

The opening prediction was about 3.5m wasn't it?

Elmo · 23-06-2015 4:30pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The opening prediction was about 3.5m wasn't it?

Yeah

I can only imagine that plan for 2015 is to continue as is, meaning no growth. Is their no imagination at UTV?

Sam Russell · 23-06-2015 4:30pm

Just the projected losses in year one. I have no idea what there net investment would be.

iseegirls · 23-06-2015 4:46pm

Elmo wrote: »

Yeah

I can only imagine that plan for 2015 is to continue as is, meaning no growth. Is their no imagination at UTV?

Which probably means no sports rights (if there were any available) or movie rights for the next while. We'll have to make do with programmes which have been showed months or sometimes years earlier on UTV.

Elmo · 23-06-2015 4:49pm

iseegirls wrote: »

Which probably means no sports rights (if there were any available) or movie rights for the next while. We'll have to make do with programmes which have been showed months or sometimes years earlier on UTV.

Which would be fine if it were the better shows from ITV like their Dramas. They seem unwilling to make simple change, they went with the bigger option of moving the News just daft.

An Ciarraioch · 23-06-2015 4:54pm

Elmo wrote: »

1. To soon to move 6:30
2. To soon to talk of 5:30 wait for a few months

Only had 3% share, has increased ths 100% with UTV Ireland (5.6) and UTV proper (0.7).
Now available on Saorview and Sky.

They are too slow to look at simple change

And even that 3% extra could be due simply to being carried on the other platforms, so whether creating a brand-new channel was necessary to that end is debatable!

formerly scottish paddy · 23-06-2015 5:05pm

Elmo wrote: »

Is their no imagination at UTV?

Eh...........................no.

Elmo · 23-06-2015 5:18pm

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

And even that 3% extra could be due simply to being carried on the other platforms, so whether creating a brand-new channel was necessary to that end is debatable!

I'd say TV3 pushed UTV off Sky and negotiated that they wouldn't be part of the EPG, possibly agreed when they were owned by Granada. They could have done this as none of the channels had yet to agree to be on Sky. AFAIR. So the likely hood of UTV proper appearing on Sky was small.

So yes a new channel with rights was need for that IMO.

Eh...........................no.

Is there any imagination in any TV channel in Ireland?

gordongekko · 23-06-2015 7:02pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The opening prediction was about 3.5m wasn't it?

And that included set up cost for the studio and hiring staff. They had expected to be profitable in the second half of this year.

icdg · 24-06-2015 9:03am

Delta2113 wrote: »

People want the old Utv back -it's that simple but unlikely it will ever happen.

I wouldn't make any bets that it would be back even if UTV Ireland closed (which I don't think will happen anytime soon, either) - particularly if the mooted Liberty takeover of TV3 happens, and that looks like it is getting closer.

Puddle Q · 24-06-2015 9:13am

icdg wrote: »

I wouldn't make any bets that it would be back even if UTV Ireland closed (which I don't think will happen anytime soon, either) - particularly if the mooted Liberty takeover of TV3 happens, and that looks like it is getting closer.

Of course a variant of ITV will be back if the shoite that is UTV Ireland is gone !

icdg · 24-06-2015 10:07am

Will it? UPC say it was their own decision to drop it. If, as now seems highly likely, they buy TV3, what incentive would they have to put on their platform a station that isn't must carry, they would have to pay rights fees for, and would no doubt resume competing for advertising in the Irish market against their own TV3? I wouldn't make any assumptions that they would.

iseegirls · 24-06-2015 11:06am

4,700 tuned in for their 5:30 news on Monday. Compared to 93,000 on TV3.

irishfeen · 24-06-2015 11:29am

iseegirls wrote: »

4,700 tuned in for their 5:30 news on Monday. Compared to 93,000 on TV3.

I didn't think viewership could reach that low in Ireland - unbelievable... They are in massive trouble!

Sam Russell · 24-06-2015 11:32am

If you consider that this number of viewers is based on a sample number of people surveyed, then numbers as low as that is beyond the limit of accuracy. They must be down to single numbers of the sample, which would make the quoted number more of a guess.

irishfeen · 24-06-2015 11:43am

Sam Russell wrote: »

If you consider that this number of viewers is based on a sample number of people surveyed, then numbers as low as that is beyond the limit of accuracy. They must be down to single numbers of the sample, which would make the quoted number more of a guess.

Yes but I assume all figures are calculated using the same formula with sample numbers - the 90,000 TV3 first the same time is obviously a direct comparison.

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