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The ITV Thread

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  • #2912
    Richard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Richard


    political analyst wrote: »
    It's interesting to see that UTV Live on the new UTV section of the ITV News website is not geo-blocked.

    http://www.itv.com/news/utv/2016-05-24/catch-up-with-the-latest-editions-of-utv-live-and-utv-live-tonight/

    I wonder if they even have the facility to geo-block video on the ITV News site. Most regions don't have full versions of their news bulletins afaik, only individual reports. The other exception is Channel, as they had full bulletins on their site before ITV took them over.


  • #2913
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,582 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Richard wrote: »
    I wonder if they even have the facility to geo-block video on the ITV News site. Most regions don't have full versions of their news bulletins afaik, only individual reports. The other exception is Channel, as they had full bulletins on their site before ITV took them over.
    The ITV Hub is geo-blocked.

    Given that ITV News is commercially-funded, there is no licence fee involved and thus no need to geo-block news reports that don't have rights issues.
    After all, reports on the NBC News website are not geo-blocked.


  • #2914
    lgs 4
    Registered Users Posts: 666 ✭✭✭lgs 4


    political analyst wrote: »
    The ITV Hub is geo-blocked.

    Given that ITV News is commercially-funded, there is no licence fee involved and thus no need to geo-block news reports that don't have rights issues.
    After all, reports on the NBC News website are not geo-blocked.

    Did you put in a UK postal code


  • #2915
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,582 ✭✭✭political analyst


    lgs 4 wrote: »
    Did you put in a UK postal code
    There's no need for a postal code to watch reports on the ITV News website.


  • #2916
    Rick_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    From tomorrow, the news service will transfer over to www.itv.com/utv as will any UTV programming to www.itv.com/utvprogrammes

    UTV Player will close overnight and any catchup content for any ITV channel will be available at www.itv.com


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  • #2917
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,834 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Only true for U.tv (UTV Northern Ireland)

    UTV.ie (UTV Ireland) is unaffected.


  • #2918
    twinklerunner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭twinklerunner


    The weekend schedule on UTV Ireland is terrible IMHO.


  • #2919
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,949 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    twinklerunner wrote: »
    The weekend schedule on UTV Ireland is terrible IMHO.

    The whole channel is terrible, ITV need to take acton with it soon, either improve it and make it more in line with proper ITV or sell it off to some broadcaster that will turn it into something totally different.


  • #2920
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,582 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Gonzo wrote: »
    The whole channel is terrible, ITV need to take acton with it soon, either improve it and make it more in line with proper ITV or sell it off to some broadcaster that will turn it into something totally different.

    Who would ITV sell it to?

    Even if TV3 wanted to buy UTV Ireland, I don't believe that Comreg would let it happen.


  • #2921
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    political analyst wrote: »
    Who would ITV sell it to?

    Even if TV3 wanted to buy UTV Ireland, I don't believe that Comreg would let it happen.

    CPCC, ComReg and BAI would all allow it to be bought, they based both buyouts on 2014 data, 2015 would show that TV3 and UTV Ireland would only have 16% of the audience.


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  • #2922
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,834 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    I don't think there'd be any competition concerns, the question would really be whether TV3 would buy the company lock stock and barrel if they knew no one else was in the market for it. Would it not be better to wait ITV out, have them close the channel (if we do believe they are going down the sale or closure route) and then approach ITV about resuming the programme supply arrangement?

    Think about it. TV3's main interest is the ITV Studios programming. Thats all they want. They don't want to be taking on any of UTV's assets or liabilities. Better to let ITV deal with the fall out from closing the channel, if that's what's going to happen.

    TV3 won't be running a third general entertainment channel aimed at the same demographic as its main channel, and certainly not a second news service right up against its own.

    And don't expect UTV NI to return to Virgin Media in such a scenario either, given who now owns TV3.


  • #2923
    channelsurfer2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    I doubt we will ever know the commercial arrangement but IF ITV owns the programming and UTVIRL then they are saving 10milion a year in costs simply by owning those ITV Studios programs. So no need to sell it as its technically not going to be loss making if that's the case.


  • #2924
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    channelsurfer2 wrote: »
    I doubt we will ever know the commercial arrangement but IF ITV owns the programming and UTVIRL then they are saving 10milion a year in costs simply by owning those ITV Studios programs. So no need to sell it as its technically not going to be loss making if that's the case.

    Would they make more by selling the content rather than advertising?


  • #2925
    twinklerunner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭twinklerunner


    channelsurfer2 wrote: »
    I doubt we will ever know the commercial arrangement but IF ITV owns the programming and UTVIRL then they are saving 10milion a year in costs simply by owning those ITV Studios programs. So no need to sell it as its technically not going to be loss making if that's the case.

    I wish that the channel carried ITV's programmes, not the current mish-mash.


  • #2926
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,834 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    channelsurfer2 wrote: »
    I doubt we will ever know the commercial arrangement but IF ITV owns the programming and UTVIRL then they are saving 10milion a year in costs simply by owning those ITV Studios programs. So no need to sell it as its technically not going to be loss making if that's the case.

    It is no longer a commercial arrangement of course, it is now ITV paying themselves, or "internal supply" as they call it. They seem to account for it as a discount from revenue.


  • #2927
    dublinman1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,518 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    This response came from Michael Wilson to someone on Twitter earlier tonight.

    https://twitter.com/MW_UTV/status/739823314852556800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


  • #2928
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    But not UTV Ireland, no plans for a change as it was was only rebranded last September and UTV NI hasn't had a new look for 12 years. Michael Wilson told me this via Twitter message!


  • #2929
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,834 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Just as regards the silence at UTV Ireland, seemingly the Business Post ran a two page spread on it back in April. I didn't see it at the time (and its behind a paywall so can only see the summary) but seemingly ITV are looking at what to do about the station, but closure appears to be off the menu for now.

    http://www.businesspost.ie/utv-ireland-has-hopes-of-a-new-beginning/


  • #2930
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,385 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Last night UTV Ireland showed Let Me In, quite possibly the first time they've shown something that I thought was better than was on UTV.


  • #2931
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Good beatles documentary just on there.

    saw this though.

    Where Are They Now: UTV Ireland


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  • #2932
    lgs 4
    Registered Users Posts: 666 ✭✭✭lgs 4


    Guys this topic is going nowhere if people want good programming let C4 or Canal + run UTV Ireland


  • #2933
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    lgs 4 wrote: »
    Guys this topic is going nowhere if people want good programming let C4 or Canal + run UTV Ireland

    Is that a general statement on all ITV programming.


  • #2934
    twinklerunner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭twinklerunner


    lgs 4 wrote: »
    Guys this topic is going nowhere if people want good programming let C4 or Canal + run UTV Ireland

    Or we could just watch C4 programming on C4?


  • #2935
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,582 ✭✭✭political analyst


    lgs 4 wrote: »
    Guys this topic is going nowhere if people want good programming let C4 or Canal + run UTV Ireland

    Yeah, like that's gonna happen (!)


  • #2936
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,949 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    lgs 4 wrote: »
    Guys this topic is going nowhere if people want good programming let C4 or Canal + run UTV Ireland

    Canal+ will never enter the Irish market, were far too small, they'll probably never enter UK either. Very dissapointing to see nothings changed with UTV Ireland and not even an announcement to future plans by ITV.


  • #2937
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,834 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    They are first and foremost a pay-TV company; and will only enter this market to do one thing - buy Sky. Which isn't going to happen anytime soon, though I'll never see never as it would have some good strategic value to it in setting up a pan-European DBS operation. There are other, non business related complications when it comes to these two companies that might prevent it.

    They'll never have anything to do with UTV Ireland though.


  • #2938
    ziggyman17
    Registered Users Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭ziggyman17


    a dire station, that is trying to make money off the back of 2 soaps, no sports, movies, nothing.........a complete joke of a station.......


  • #2939
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,834 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    It may be a mistake given past form, but UTV Ireland are, according to the Sky EPG, carrying the ITN News Special for the Brexit referendum on Friday morning.


  • #2940
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    ziggyman17 wrote: »
    a dire station, that is trying to make money off the back of 2 soaps, no sports, movies, nothing.........a complete joke of a station.......

    +1. Will it be around in 5 years time? Will TV3 be around in 5 years time? Will one take over the other I wonder? At the minute UTV Ire seems to be the weaker entity and can't go on as it is.


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  • #2941
    Jack Killian
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,663 ✭✭✭Jack Killian


    icdg wrote: »
    It may be a mistake given past form, but UTV Ireland are, according to the Sky EPG, carrying the ITN News Special for the Brexit referendum on Friday morning.

    Crazy!

    A programme that views it from an Irish perspective would be worthwhile, but this crap will just reinforce the vibe that they're a foreign station masquerading as Irish.

    Not that TV3 is too far behind in that regard mind!


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