Bringing your girlfriend to a nightclub

Seriously?

jezzer wrote: »

Well look at the stats you will see that more women are attacked or have their drinks spiked than men

Since you raised the matter of statistics, care to share your statistics which show more women are attacked and have their drinks spiked than men at nightclubs ?

jezzer wrote: »

women should be looked after, any decent man would tell you that

I'm not sure its beneficial for men to always have to assume responsibility for the general safety of women; they’re more than capable taking care of themselves and bearing responsibility for their actions in this day and age.

jezzer

jezzer wrote: »

Well look at the stats you will see that more women are attacked or have their drinks spiked than men, you are obviously

Amazing how often someone puts the word "obviously" before something that is actually entirely false. I have no personal identification with that label whatsoever.

Amazing also how often people say "look at the stats" without actually giving any. How can I look at what is not there?

Simple fact is a drink fueled environment such as this is a place where everyone is at risk. Risk from attack. Theft. Sexual abuse. Being taken advantage of when drunk. And much more. Such is the nature of the location.

So in the end we all look after everyone else - and we should all be equally grateful for it. Whether it is me looking out for my girls - them looking out for me - or any of us looking mutually after our mates.

The generalisation that women should feel particularly greateful to their male overseer is about as nonsense a generalisation as the ones you got banned from After Hours for.

drumswan

Seriously? wrote: »

I'm not sure its beneficial for men to always have to assume responsibility for the general safety of women; they’re more than capable taking care of themselves and bearing responsibility for their actions in this day and age.

Who said always? The thread is about nightclubs. I look out for my partner when we are out and about late at night, I'd look out for my mother or father or mates the same. Its just common sense, not everything has to be a bloody feminist issue.

jezzer

its just common manner thats all and if you look at the garda crime statistics you will see that women are attacked more than men

Seriously?

drumswan wrote: »

Who said always?

jezzer wrote:

my view is that women should be looked after, any decent man would tell you that

So while its a thread about nightclubs, the attitude is one which extends beyond them.

jezzer

jezzer wrote: »

its just common manner thats all and if you look at the garda crime statistics you will see that women are attacked more than men

Again - as I said above - happy to read the statistics you are using if you link them or present them with references. Saying "Look at the statistics" without offering any - does nothing. I can not look at what is not there.

drumswan

You cant win, we are constantly bombarded with stuff like the 'man up' campaign telling us women are victims of abuse etc and when you state you would aim to protect the women you care for from same you are labelled some kind of wierdo.

Either women are at heightened risk in our society or they arent, which is it?

kryogen

We have kids these days so normally one goes and the other minds the children, but back in the day I would have had no problem with it. Never exactly in to night clubs but would venture in if thats where the group wanted to go. These days its a late bar or something since the nightclubs tend to be full of 17 year olds

Pawwed Rig

Mod note - Jezzer is taking a short break from TGC

Mister Vain

drumswan wrote: »

You cant win, we are constantly bombarded with stuff like the 'man up' campaign telling us women are victims of abuse etc and when you state you would aim to protect the women you care for from same you are labelled some kind of wierdo.

While I despise the Man Up campaign, I don't think men are been labelled weirdos for wanting to protect women, unless they're doing it in a weird over protective way.

strobe

Wouldn't know what to do with myself in a nightclub if I wasn't single tbh. Don't like to dance unless I'm full of pills. What else is there to do in a nightclub other than dance and/or crack onto people you find sexually attractive?

keane2097

strobe wrote: »

Wouldn't know what to do with myself in a nightclub if I wasn't single tbh. Don't like to dance unless I'm full of pills. What else is there to do in a nightclub other than dance and/or crack onto people you find sexually attractive?

Jagerbombs.

designbydan

Whenever I go to a club with the gf it's usually with college friends, she loves to dance and I'm not much of a dancer so I usually hang back and just drink with a few of the lads while her and most of the girls would be up dancing,
until at some point everybody is drunk enough to no longer care about their dancing skills and we're all up.

Before then though I would keep an eye on her (more or less) but I trust her completely, it's more to make sure she's okay and honestly I know she's happy that I'm keeping an eye out for her, If I didn't she'd think I was ignoring her all night.
In fairness there's watching somebody like a hawk and then there's ignoring them for the entire night.
I don't think there's anything wrong with a happy medium.

I have stepped in in the past when a random guy has got a bit too handsy with her (Which can happen on the dancefloor very easily if a bloke is drunk enough/not very gentlemanly) Sometimes guys have just come right over and groped her or another one of the ladies while their just dancing with each other and hardly what you could call 'looking for attention')

Can my gf defend and take care of herself? I'm sure she can and has done many times.
Am I willing to just stand there and do nothing if some random guy tries to grind himself up against her on a dancefloor while she pushes him off? F**K NO !

braddun

you can send your girlfriend clubbing with me

I will send her back on the last nightlink at 4am ater a quick cup of tea

designbydan

braddun wrote: »

you can send your girlfriend clubbing with me

I will send her back on the last nightlink at 4am ater a quick cup of tea

If there's Tea involved can I go instead?

Backspinswerve

strobe wrote: »

Wouldn't know what to do with myself in a nightclub if I wasn't single tbh. Don't like to dance unless I'm full of pills. What else is there to do in a nightclub other than dance and/or crack onto people you find sexually attractive?

Walk around whilst eating an apple or a banana and see what reactions you get.

PucaMama

so what i gather from this thread is men are ALWAYS out to get a woman in a nightclub. really? no man ever just wants to socialise? all those conversations started by men on nights out they all had the one intention? i find that hard to believe.

oh but i suppose my friendliness brought it on myself although if i wasnt so friendly i would be a bitch and stuck up for not chatting back. life...

Hollister11

I hate nightclubs, over priced, watered down drinks. Load music crowed spaces with drunks. Hate them but have to go the odd time.
Prepare Pubs, at least you get a seat and a decent pint for the price you pay

beks101

I don't think they're a good place to go to socialize at all. I'd say the opposite in fact.

"Are ya having a good night?"
"Sorry?"
"ARE YA HAVING A GOOD NIGHT?"
"SORRY?"
"YOUR NIGHT, IS IT ANY GOOD LIKE..."
"I CAN'T HEAR YOU..."
*Gives up and slinks away*

I don't think you guys have the monopoly on finding them a bit pointless, I'm in my late 20s and it's a good 5 years since I last saw the inside of a night club and even then I was forty shades of ****faced and you could have thrown me into a Soviet prison camp and I would've had an equal amount of craic.

Loud annoying music, overpriced drinks, full of drunk/high people who you can't talk to anyway because of the loud annoying music, queue for the bar, queue for the toilet which is full of drunk people taking selfies, queue for the door when you want to leave and wake up with a giant dent in your bank balance and nothing but a sore head to show for it.

If I went into one now, alone or with my OH, I wouldn't have a clue what to do and would last about 30 minutes before getting out of dodge.

ancapailldorcha

Went to one a few months ago for the first time in 6 months and I just don't get the point. Everyone was plastered, the music was too loud and the only thing people seemed interested in doing was taking selfies. If someone can explain the reasoning behind selfies, you'd have my eternal gratitude.

Wibbs

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

If someone can explain the reasoning behind selfies, you'd have my eternal gratitude.

Natural human narcissism enabled and encouraged to near farce by the need to feed social media. And food pictures.

There you go A, that'll be 9.99. I take paypal, so long as you pay the fees.

ancapailldorcha

Wibbs wrote: »

Natural human narcissism enabled and encouraged to near farce by the need to feed social media. And food pictures.

There you go A, that'll be 9.99. I take paypal, so long as you pay the fees.

A chap at work told me about one of his friends who'll stop at various points during meals out to whip out her iPhone to take one and upload it.

I'm so glad Facebook didn't gain serious traction during my adolescence.

D'Agger

The food one is interesting because my mother and my grandmother used to always talk about meals, in particular at weddings etc. - they'd go into great detail about it and it used to wreck my head a small bit. The way they could talk for 15 minutes about a starter, it's layout etc.

My mother explained it as something to talk about - being more descriptive, even about smaller, unimportant things is what kept conversations going for people like my gran and mother when they didn't have a phone to look at, a website to go to etc.

I think peoples fascinations with what others are eating, and it's subsequent forray into social media, namely instagram, can be explained somewhat by this almost genetic trait to show others or tell them about a lovely meal we had - I'm fairly certain my gran would love pics of meals to be sent to her, were she still around to enjoy them, and able to commandeer the technology displaying it

Essentially what I'm saying is I can understand the food pics - there's a deep lying reason for why we do it imho and it just happens that there's now a time that allows us to share photos instantly - it has its place today, annoying or not.

yankdotcom

im more of a fan of going to the pub with the misses these days,
even with me mates id rather stick with the pub for as long as possible and head into a club for the last hour.never liked them when i was younger either,too many drunken fools looking for trouble in them at the end of the night

Wibbs

Yea, the food one does seem to be a different thing alright D'A. Seems to be more a woman thing as well, from what I can tell anyway? Then again one might argue the cave paintings of Lascaux and the like are food snaps.

Selfies are another thing entirely. Funny enough those above cave paintings and the like are notable for one thing, almost no depictions of people, of the self. Even when human depictions are made in sculpture and the like, it's an ideal, an abstraction of the human form(almost entirely female in nature), the self and the selfie is missing. That comes much later in our history and is at its peak today. Maybe it's just the deep human need to leave a mark, to continue, to share that continuance with others and that has reached a current zenith with the selfie?

Bloody hell, I went off piste there lads and lasses.*bans himself* :)

magicmushroom

Earl Turner wrote: »

Well most of the time you can trust them but you still better keep an eye on them. What I hate is when they hand their numbers out to some guy they met that night. Very disrespectful.

WTF...any girl that does that doesn't love you and there is no future in that relationship.

Pawwed Rig

Wibbs wrote: »

Selfies are another thing entirely. Funny enough those above cave paintings and the like are notable for one thing, almost no depictions of people, of the self. Even when human depictions are made in sculpture and the like, it's an ideal, an abstraction of the human form(almost entirely female in nature), the self and the selfie is missing. That comes much later in our history and is at its peak today. Maybe it's just the deep human need to leave a mark, to continue, to share that continuance with others and that has reached a current zenith with the selfie?

Da Vinci, Goya and Van Gogh were big fans of the selfie. No duck faces in those days though

Mister Vain

beks101 wrote: »

I don't think they're a good place to go to socialize at all. I'd say the opposite in fact.

"Are ya having a good night?"
"Sorry?"
"ARE YA HAVING A GOOD NIGHT?"
"SORRY?"
"YOUR NIGHT, IS IT ANY GOOD LIKE..."
"I CAN'T HEAR YOU..."
*Gives up and slinks away*

I don't think you guys have the monopoly on finding them a bit pointless, I'm in my late 20s and it's a good 5 years since I last saw the inside of a night club and even then I was forty shades of ****faced and you could have thrown me into a Soviet prison camp and I would've had an equal amount of craic.

Loud annoying music, overpriced drinks, full of drunk/high people who you can't talk to anyway because of the loud annoying music, queue for the bar, queue for the toilet which is full of drunk people taking selfies, queue for the door when you want to leave and wake up with a giant dent in your bank balance and nothing but a sore head to show for it.

If I went into one now, alone or with my OH, I wouldn't have a clue what to do and would last about 30 minutes before getting out of dodge.

Haha yes I know the feeling. Except for me it was like:

"Hi, what's your name?"
"What?"
"Where are ye from?"
"What?"
"Will ye shift me?"
"What?"
"Will ye shift me?"
"I can't hear ye."
"Ahh forget it."