Irish "comedy" like Hardy Bucks, Damo & Ivor, Rubberbandits etc.

Arne_Saknussem

DeadHand wrote: »

G'way outta that...

The Rubberbandits are genius. Genuinely funny in an original, surreal style with deep insight and intelligence behind it. They don't get half as much exposure as they deserve.

Hardy Bucks are fairly amusing... The movie had it's moments. They're not terrible.

Damo and Ivor is about as funny as a four year old's funeral. Subtle as a sledgehammer, lowest common denomintor humour. Stupid.

I'd go along with this in the main, not really a fan of Hardy Bucks but it's leagues better than Damo & Ivor.


Rubber Bandits are excellent, intelligent and very witty. Horse Outside is by far the worst thing i've heard from them.

The Moldy Gowl

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

i was talking to an RTE person before the album came out....and they were trying to tell me RTE gave them every chance to release an album around horse outside and they refused saying "it's not ready"....she then tried to tell me they were finished because of it!!! ha look at them now selling out monthly runs in the uk! That's RTE for you....

Exactly, Rte wouldnt let them do what they wanted to a certain extent, stunted any creativity. I know one of the guys on facebook and every so often he would mention things like that and gives a good insight. They hate horse outside now because of the fans it created.
The irish crowds are the worst as well, ladz thinking they are funny and shouting up at the stage, ruining any timing, trying to dictate the show by trying to be funnier.

Dosent happen anywhere else

The Moldy Gowl

jimgoose wrote: »

Not a lot of people know this, but Bllind Boy and Chrome are the illegitimate twin sons of Ralf Hütter and the noncey-looking fella out of Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark.

Who, ironically enough, were also in the ra

jimgoose

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Who, ironically enough, were also in the ra

Hell, they were the 'Ra! :cool:

harry Bailey esq

I havnt read through the whole thread but does anyone remember'upwardly mobile'? It was an alleged comedy that rate put out in the nineties, it would be a contender for worst ever Irish show, it only ran for one or two seasons, its also memorable because one of the leads died following a fight in the city centre, and was named as an active member of the inla :eek:

FTA69

harry Bailey esq wrote: »

I havnt read through the whole thread but does anyone remember'upwardly mobile'? It was an alleged comedy that rate put out in the nineties, it would be a contender for worst ever Irish show, it only ran for one or two seasons, its also memorable because one of the leads died following a fight in the city centre, and was named as an active member of the inla :eek:

Real IRA actually. I think he'd a heart attack due to being off his box on cocaine.

jimgoose

FTA69 wrote: »

Real IRA actually. I think he'd a heart attack due to being off his box on cocaine.

Yes, Joe Savino. My good lantherin' Cheeses that was an awful program. I don't think I ever saw anything as bad.

Oops - I'm wrong, it was the other fella, Robbie Doolin.

Chunners

The last Irish based comedy show I watched was Father Ted and that was only because it was produced by Channel 4, if RTE had have gotten their anal hooks into it it would have been turned into a pile of ****e. The only funny thing about D'Unbelieveables, Hardy Bucks, Damo & Ivor, Rubberbandits is that anyone thinks they are funny in the first place. I'd honestly rather watch an American "Comedy" show than watch the rubbish RTE come up with and try pass off as funny when really it is nothing more than embarrassing. It's no wonder most Irish comedians end up moving to England because the RTE audience are a bunch of dip****e's who wouldn't know funny if it slapped them in the face.

I'm Kent Brockman and thats my 2 cents

harry Bailey esq

FTA69 wrote: »

Real IRA actually. I think he'd a heart attack due to being off his box on cocaine.

I remember now you are correct,the chaps name was Robbie something or other,he got involved in a row outside one of the late night spots in town and returned with a baseball bat and collapsed on the foothpath,he was a dark heavy set fella with a strong Dublin accent if memory serves me correct
Edit: jimgoose says Joe savino so its probably not Robbie
Edit 2: jimgoose changed his mind :pac:

DeadHand

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

Rubber Bandits are excellent, intelligent and very witty. Horse Outside is by far the worst thing i've heard from them.

Yeah, can't help but feel if the Rubberbandits had been two Dublin boys (preferably with excellent connections in Montrose, right Andy?) peddling the jaded, overexposed "Dub humour" instead of their own original, bizarre hybrid of Limerick city/surrealist humour they'd have got as much work as other, obviously inferior, performers got in this country.

As it is, they'll need to seek work abroad like Graham Norton, Dara O'Briain and other culchie talent who made the poor career move of being born outside of Dublin.

eisenberg1

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Paths to Freedom was better than any of those three

Jeremy: "What price are those harpoons"
Shop assistant: "They are not harpoons, they are walking poles"
Jeremy "Ok, I will take them"

Brilliant:D

jimgoose

harry Bailey esq wrote: »

I remember now you are correct,the chaps name was Robbie something or other,he got involved in a row outside one of the late night spots in town and returned with a baseball bat and collapsed on the foothpath,he was a dark heavy set fella with a strong Dublin accent if memory serves me correct

Do excuse me above, it was of course Robbie Doolin, and not Joe Savino.

gerrybbadd

The Hardy Bucks are very funny in fairness.

Uncle Ruckus

This reminded me how long it's been since I saw any new Podge and Rodge material.

drumswan

gerrybbadd wrote: »

The Hardy Bucks are very funny in fairness.

Brilliantly funny, the humour in the dialogue is superb.

I think some Irish people need validation from the UK before they can find something funny.

Arne_Saknussem

DeadHand wrote: »

Yeah, can't help but feel if the Rubberbandits had been two Dublin boys (preferably with excellent connections in Montrose, right Andy?) peddling the jaded, overexposed "Dub humour" instead of their own original, bizarre hybrid of Limerick city/surrealist humour they'd have got as much work as other, obviously inferior, performers got in this country.

As it is, they'll need to seek work abroad like Graham Norton, Dara O'Briain and other culchie talent who made the poor career move of being born outside of Dublin.

Possibly yeah. Although they seem to be more biased towards people who are ****e, rather than just people from the Pale imo.

jimgoose

drumswan wrote: »

Brilliantly funny, the humour in the dialogue is superb.

I think some Irish people need validation from the UK before they can find something funny.

I think the 'Bucks are hilarious. "Ten euros to fight a man in a trailer? Fuckin' savage value!" :pac:

Arne_Saknussem

drumswan wrote: »

Brilliantly funny, the humour in the dialogue is superb.

I think some Irish people need validation from the UK before they can find something funny.

Seems like some people need to snidely put down other people's opinions to validate their own also.

CatFromHue

jimgoose wrote: »

I think the 'Bucks are hilarious. "Ten euros to fight a man in a trailer? Fuckin' savage value!" :pac:

I know people say it wasn't very good on RTE but The King of the Town, When they get the internet in, Salmon's stag party, Salmon's wedding, actually the whole of the second series is very good.

And let's be realistic here, if there's one thing Castletown needs it's a West African themed restaurant!

jimgoose

CatFromHue wrote: »

I know people say it wasn't very good on RTE but The King of the Town, When they get the internet in, Salmon's stag party, Salmon's wedding, actually the whole of the second series is very good.

And let's be realistic here, if there's one thing Castletown needs it's a West African themed restaurant!

I think it should be perfectly obvious to anyone with a functioning mind that the one thing every little piss-arse Irish town and village needs is a West African themed restaurant. :cool:

Chunners

drumswan wrote: »

Brilliantly funny, the humour in the dialogue is superb.

I think some Irish people need validation from the UK before they can find something funny.

Not at all, most Irish "Comedy" shows are based on stereotypes. No one inside "da pale" finds "Damo and Ivor" funny because we all know people arent that retarded, it is only funny to "culchies" because it enforces a stereotype they all have of people inside "da pale", same with "Dun'believables" and "The hardy bucks", they are shows based around cultchie humor, to a lot of us (well me anyway) none of it makes sense. I mean really why is this funny?

Jeremy: "What price are those harpoons"
Shop assistant: "They are not harpoons, they are walking poles"
Jeremy "Ok, I will take them"

All that says to me is someone called Jeremy couldn't tell the difference between a harpoon and a walking stick so is probably mildly retarded, the same joke was done years ago when Dougal went to the shop looking for handcuffs only then it was actually funny. they are all shows with aspirations of being the next Father Ted but are, at best, really just "I love Lucy"

jimgoose

Also, let's not forget that some of the funniest material to emerge from Ireland in recent years was never even intended to be funny - I refer of course to all that Traveller "shite-in-a-bucket" stuff on YouTube. :pac::pac::pac:

DoYouEvenLift

Chunners wrote: »

The last Irish based comedy show I watched was Father Ted and that was only because it was produced by Channel 4, if RTE had have gotten their anal hooks into it it would have been turned into a pile of ****e. The only funny thing about D'Unbelieveables, Hardy Bucks, Damo & Ivor, Rubberbandits is that anyone thinks they are funny in the first place. I'd honestly rather watch an American "Comedy" show than watch the rubbish RTE come up with and try pass off as funny when really it is nothing more than embarrassing. It's no wonder most Irish comedians end up moving to England because the RTE audience are a bunch of dip****e's who wouldn't know funny if it slapped them in the face.

I'm Kent Brockman and thats my 2 cents

British comedy shows are better than American I think

Chunners

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

British comedy shows are better than American I think

Totally agree, Red Dwarf being a case in point but I'd still rather watch an American comedy than an Irish one but for preference I'd always pick an English one first

The Moldy Gowl

Chunners wrote: »

Not at all, most Irish "Comedy" shows are based on stereotypes. No one inside "da pale" finds "Damo and Ivor" funny because we all know people arent that retarded, it is only funny to "culchies" because it enforces a stereotype they all have of people inside "da pale", same with "Dun'believables" and "The hardy bucks", they are shows based around cultchie humor, to a lot of us (well me anyway) none of it makes sense. I mean really why is this funny?

Jeremy: "What price are those harpoons"
Shop assistant: "They are not harpoons, they are walking poles"
Jeremy "Ok, I will take them"

All that says to me is someone called Jeremy couldn't tell the difference between a harpoon and a walking stick so is probably mildly retarded, the same joke was done years ago when Dougal went to the shop looking for handcuffs only then it was actually funny. they are all shows with aspirations of being the next Father Ted but are, at best, really just "I love Lucy"

You are like some one who has the have the joke explained to them.




Dano macCormac and the chronicles of Baldy Mcdonagh are some excellent unintentinal great.

Lil' Jay from Limerick is another absolute goldmine

jimgoose

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

...Dano macCormac and the chronicles of Baldy Mcdonagh are some excellent unintentinal great.

Lil' Jay from Limerick is another absolute goldmine

Not forgetting the great Postman Patrick - apologies in advance to anyone from the Leitrim/Meath/Cyaaavan area:

eisenberg1

Chunners wrote: »

Not at all, most Irish "Comedy" shows are based on stereotypes. No one inside "da pale" finds "Damo and Ivor" funny because we all know people arent that retarded, it is only funny to "culchies" because it enforces a stereotype they all have of people inside "da pale", same with "Dun'believables" and "The hardy bucks", they are shows based around cultchie humor, to a lot of us (well me anyway) none of it makes sense. I mean really why is this funny?

Jeremy: "What price are those harpoons"
Shop assistant: "They are not harpoons, they are walking poles"
Jeremy "Ok, I will take them"

All that says to me is someone called Jeremy couldn't tell the difference between a harpoon and a walking stick so is probably mildly retarded, the same joke was done years ago when Dougal went to the shop looking for handcuffs only then it was actually funny. they are all shows with aspirations of being the next Father Ted but are, at best, really just "I love Lucy"

I dont find Damo & Ivor that funny, but there people Dublin who do find it funny....how can you say no one in Dublin thinks its funny?

As for my quote from "Paths to Freedom", did you watch the program? obviously it has to seen in context.

IMO, Paths to was not like Father Ted or I love Lucy.

elefant

Chunners wrote: »

Not at all, most Irish "Comedy" shows are based on stereotypes. No one inside "da pale" finds "Damo and Ivor" funny because we all know people arent that retarded, it is only funny to "culchies" because it enforces a stereotype they all have of people inside "da pale", same with "Dun'believables" and "The hardy bucks", they are shows based around cultchie humor, to a lot of us (well me anyway) none of it makes sense. I mean really why is this funny?

Are you making two differing points here, or am I not understanding what you're saying correctly?

I understand you say 'Damo and Ivor' (which I've never seen) is only funny to culchies, because apparently 'they all' are completely oblivious to how humans outside of the countryside behave.

You then say it's the same with 'Hardy Bucks'. Does this mean only non-culchies find it funny? Because it plays up to country stereoypes?

jimgoose

elefant wrote: »

...Does this mean only non-culchies find it funny? Because it plays up to country stereoypes?

I'm a culchie from East Limerick of the particularly mountainy variety, and when I eventually figured out that D'Unbelievables wasn't a documentary I thought it was uproariously funny. Mainly because it's all true! :pac::pac::pac:

The Moldy Gowl

just because you dont find something funny, dosent mean there is no funny/art in it

drumswan

The Hardy Bucks is similar to Trailer Park Boys, which I find amusing. Apparently people from Dartmouth wouldnt get Trailer Park Boys though.

The Strawman Argument

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

British comedy shows are better than American I think

God, I'd say it's a while since that could be said. BBC have really been ballsing it up for the longest time now. There's the occasional gem but the quantity of quality doesn't come remotely close to the US ...and that's without factoring in the crazy disparity when it comes to podcasts and other things.


Like England it isn't large enough to just create this huge comedy industry like the US has, and RTE is far worse than the BBC ever could be.
There isn't really that much room for much of an alternative comedy scene; youtube is a pretty good alternative though, it's probably produced most of Ireland's better stuff in recent years (hardy bucks and, I think, rubberbandits both started there, right?).



...as an aside, is the hardy bucks rte show worth watching? I assumed it was ****e.

Chunners

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

You are like some one who has the have the joke explained to them.




Dano macCormac and the chronicles of Baldy Mcdonagh are some excellent unintentinal great.

Lil' Jay from Limerick is another absolute goldmine

If you are going to insult someone about their intelligence at least get your spelling correct

riffmongous

jimgoose wrote: »

Also, let's not forget that some of the funniest material to emerge from Ireland in recent years was never even intended to be funny - I refer of course to all that Traveller "shite-in-a-bucket" stuff on YouTube. :pac::pac::pac:

I love how inventive their insults are 'ya handicapped biscuits, with your big Ennis face on ya' wtf :pac:

jimgoose

riffmongous wrote: »

I love how inventive their insults are 'ya handicapped biscuits, with your big Ennis face on ya' wtf :pac:

Some big timber there right enough. I was particularly impressed with the sledgehammer grace of "Junkie's bastard!!" :pac:

The Moldy Gowl

Chunners wrote: »

If you are going to insult someone about their intelligence at least get your spelling correct

2edgy5me

Chunners

eisenberg1 wrote: »

I dont find Damo & Ivor that funny, but there people Dublin who do find it funny....how can you say no one in Dublin thinks its funny?

As for my quote from "Paths to Freedom", did you watch the program? obviously it has to seen in context.

IMO, Paths to was not like Father Ted or I love Lucy.

Yeah I did see it, dentist goes nuts, band member gets violated in a gay bar by a transvestite who was being passed off as a transsexual (more stereotypes), dentists wife tuns out to be looking for a shag, Dubliner skanger tries get a music career via the medium of crap rap. It wasn't really the height of comedy or anything but I guess you'd have to be one of those stereotypes to really appreciate how funny it actually wasn't but sure no bother it is always funny to take pot shots at the gays and the trans isn't it? sure isn't Brendan O'Carroll career based on it?

GerB40

harry Bailey esq wrote: »

I havnt read through the whole thread but does anyone remember'upwardly mobile'? It was an alleged comedy that rate put out in the nineties, it would be a contender for worst ever Irish show, it only ran for one or two seasons, its also memorable because one of the leads died following a fight in the city centre, and was named as an active member of the inla :eek:

"But it's Belvedere for me".. Jaysus havin three channels meant we used to watch some shyte...

SuperGrover

Soupy Norman is my favourite Irish comedy. Almost nobody has seen it, apparently. Simple but brilliant...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr5MYwqA8rk

DEFTLEFTHAND

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Paths to Freedom was better than any of those three

Agreed, I thought the movie they made afterwards with Rats was decent also.

One eyed Jack

Chunners wrote: »

Yeah I did see it, dentist goes nuts, band member gets violated in a gay bar by a transvestite who was being passed off as a transsexual (more stereotypes), dentists wife tuns out to be looking for a shag, Dubliner skanger tries get a music career via the medium of crap rap. It wasn't really the height of comedy or anything but I guess you'd have to be one of those stereotypes to really appreciate how funny it actually wasn't but sure no bother it is always funny to take pot shots at the gays and the trans isn't it? sure isn't Brendan O'Carroll career based on it?

A person with an intellectual disability could say the very same about your casual use of the word 'retarded' -

Chunners wrote: »

Not at all, most Irish "Comedy" shows are based on stereotypes. No one inside "da pale" finds "Damo and Ivor" funny because we all know people arent that retarded, it is only funny to "culchies" because it enforces a stereotype they all have of people inside "da pale", same with "Dun'believables" and "The hardy bucks", they are shows based around cultchie humor, to a lot of us (well me anyway) none of it makes sense. I mean really why is this funny?

Jeremy: "What price are those harpoons"
Shop assistant: "They are not harpoons, they are walking poles"
Jeremy "Ok, I will take them"

All that says to me is someone called Jeremy couldn't tell the difference between a harpoon and a walking stick so is probably mildly retarded the same joke was done years ago when Dougal went to the shop looking for handcuffs only then it was actually funny. they are all shows with aspirations of being the next Father Ted but are, at best, really just "I love Lucy"

Funny how that works, isn't it?

eisenberg1

Chunners wrote: »

Yeah I did see it, dentist goes nuts, band member gets violated in a gay bar by a transvestite who was being passed off as a transsexual (more stereotypes), dentists wife tuns out to be looking for a shag, Dubliner skanger tries get a music career via the medium of crap rap. It wasn't really the height of comedy or anything but I guess you'd have to be one of those stereotypes to really appreciate how funny it actually wasn't but sure no bother it is always funny to take pot shots at the gays and the trans isn't it? sure isn't Brendan O'Carroll career based on it?

I would not have much time for Mr O'Connor myself. for someone who did not find "Paths" enjoyable, you seem to have watched enough of it. But if "I love Lucy" is more your thing, I am guessing you are bit old for something like Paths to Freedom and it went over your head.

nibble

jimgoose wrote: »

I'm a culchie from East Limerick of the particularly mountainy variety, and when I eventually figured out that D'Unbelievables wasn't a documentary I thought it was uproariously funny. Mainly because it's all true! :pac::pac::pac:

D'Unbelievables first full length comedy D'Telly is an absolute Irish comedy classic if you ask me, the later ones not quite as much. I remember my brother used to quote it all the time (in the accents) when he was a kid! Have a copy on VHS.

Chunners

One eyed Jack wrote: »

A person with an intellectual disability could say the very same about your casual use of the word 'retarded' -
Funny how that works, isn't it?

It wasn't a casual use of it, "retarded" is a valid word that means more than just people that have intellectual disabilities

retarded
rɪˈtɑːdɪd/
adjectivedatedoffensive

adjective: retarded

1. less advanced in mental, physical, or social development than is usual for one's age.
   "the child is badly retarded"
   
   
   • informaloffensive
     very foolish or stupid.
     "in retrospect, it was a totally retarded idea"
     
     
   
   
   
   

The fact that you assume I am using it in the manner you imply I am is actually more offensive since I actually know the meaning and use of the word whereas you go straight to assuming the stereotype of me insulting people with learning difficulties when the truth is, as you have just shown, even people without learning difficulties are capable of being retarded

Mod: Banned

Chunners

eisenberg1 wrote: »

I would not have much time for Mr O'Connor myself. for someone who did not find "Paths" enjoyable, you seem to have watched enough of it. But if "I love Lucy" is more your thing, I am guessing you are bit old for something like Paths to Freedom and it went over your head.

I didn't need to watch it, it was all over the papers especially how "hilarious" it was when the guy fell asleep drunk in the back room and the "Gay, transvestite, transsexual sexual predator" took advantage of him, no mess for me as a transsexual that was a complete validation to know that RTE got that truth of all us gay and trans people being sexual predators so spot on. Laugh? god I pissed myself

Generic Dreadhead

I liked the thread better when we were just naming tv shows we thought were overrated and when we weren't quoting the dictionary :-/

One eyed Jack

Chunners wrote: »

It wasn't a casual use of it, "retarded" is a valid word that means more than just people that have intellectual disabilities

retarded
rɪˈtɑːdɪd/
adjectivedatedoffensive

adjective: retarded

1. less advanced in mental, physical, or social development than is usual for one's age.
   "the child is badly retarded"
   
   
   • informaloffensive
     very foolish or stupid.
     "in retrospect, it was a totally retarded idea"
     
     
   
   
   
   

The fact that you assume I am using it in the manner you imply I am is actually more offensive since I actually know the meaning and use of the word whereas you go straight to assuming the stereotype of me insulting people with learning difficulties when the truth is, as you have just shown, even people without learning difficulties are capable of being retarded

Well if you're going to justify your ignorance that way, perhaps a demonstration of it's relevance may help you to understand -

Chunners wrote: »

I guess you'd have to be one of those stereotypes to really appreciate how funny it actually wasn't but sure no bother it is always funny to take pot shots at the gays and the trans people with intellectual disabilities, isn't it? sure isn't Brendan O'Carroll career based on it?

And the actual hilarity of your lack of awareness of other people besides yourself is that you completely miss the whole point of Mrs. Brown. She was inspired by his mother who he credits as his inspiration for his outlook on life, who taught him that despite being dyslexic, he should always challenge himself.

That's how he managed to come from being unemployed to being renowned all over the world as someone who inspires people himself and makes them laugh.

You'd miss that point though if it was more important to you that you're able to take pot shots at other people for their spelling errors -

Chunners wrote: »

If you are going to insult someone about their intelligence at least get your spelling correct

Might do well to remember the words of Brendan O' Carroll's mother when she said to him -

"Don't confuse education with intelligence"

So I suppose Agnes is my mother - with all of her wisdom, but not her education. And, as my mother would say, don't confuse education with intelligence.

And she was so right. I am a member of Mensa but I left school at 12 years of age, and I am dyslexic.

If ever there was anyone that was not going to be a writer or performer it was me.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tv/posts/mrs-browns-boys

howyanow

It is a case of each to their own with comedy.I think people from different parts of the country will find different acts amusing.I must throw one programme in myself.Still Game made by BBCScotland.its revered over there in the same way Fr.Ted would be over here.
Extremely funny but that imo!

Riddle101

I really like the Rubberbandits, but mainly because of their songs. Haven't seen the Hardy Books, and don't watch Damo & Ivor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzo4rZxF3x4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkEimy0xGTk

LizT

Mod

Chunners banned for a few days, let's keep it civil now and please continue to use the report post function.