FIFA Puskas Award: Ten best goals of the year announced

Mars Bar

bucketybuck wrote: »

Great! My screamer from indoor soccer can be included next time, I made a complete Santy of the defenders when I scored that one.

No it can't. You're not playing in a top league when playing your indoor game.

Captain Havoc

I just think it's thinly veiled misogyny because a girl can do something better than a boy can :P

hullaballoo

bucketybuck wrote: »

The CB failed to put any pressure on her, giving her liberty to try whatever little flicks she wanted. If only they were all so accommodating.

Hammer Archer wrote: »

So going by that logic, RVP's goal also shouldn't be included seeing as the defending in the run up to that goal was also poor.

And that was Sergio Ramos!

For the James Rodríguez goal, the defending is utter tripe too. 7 players who could close him down and he's got 5 yards of space in every direction.

Sorry, but the quality of the opposition argument is tosh.

bucketybuck

Pudsy33 wrote: »

If the award is supposed to be inclusive the setting should be irrelevant.

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Was it in an official FIFA competition? If it wasn't (and I'd be 99.999% certain it wasn't), then no it can't be included.

Pudsy33 wrote: »

@ Bucketybuck
Is your 5 a side recorded and an official fifa tournament. If so fair play this argument is absolutely bollox and you know it.

Mars Bar wrote: »

No it can't. You're not playing in a top league when playing your indoor game.

Ah, so now the setting is relevant...

Mars Bar

bucketybuck wrote: »

Ah, so now the setting is relevant...

What? There's a difference between the rules and then the setting on the field.

Her goal was eligible. Your five a side wouldn't be.

Hammer Archer

bucketybuck wrote: »

Ah, so now the setting is relevant...

Semantics.
The setting should be irrelevant when it complies with the criteria for the award.
One of those criteria is that it should be in the top division of a national league (along with confederation club games and national games).

bucketybuck

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Semantics.
The setting should be irrelevant when it complies with the criteria for the award.
One of those criteria is that it should be in the top division of a national league (along with confederation club games and national games).

Is it the best goal or is it not? Is the setting relevant or is it not? Can't have it both ways.

GLaDOS

5 a side isn't officially association football (Different rules, pitch dimensions, no of players etc) so it obviously can't count.

Dempsey

ScienceNerd wrote: »

5 a side isn't officially association football (Different rules, pitch dimensions, no of players etc) so it obviously can't count.

The fact that had to be pointed out shows how desperate the argument to discredit the goal has become

RedemptionZ

Christ. For anyone trying to say defending was too poor in Roche's goal, show me a goal, doesn't even have to be a good one, where it couldn't have been prevented with better defending? I'm not saying that the defenders couldn't have done better, but what I am saying is isn't that always the case?

keeponhurling

Pudsy33 wrote: »

Another point worth making is that this is fifa we are dealing with. A woman winning the award would look good for their image, at a time when it's pretty low. A public vote isn't the most transparent of systems. Maybe I'm just being cynical...

It is strange she was the only woman out of the ten goals nominated.
You'd think that in a theoretically average year, it would be split 5 and 5.

Could. Women win the Player of the year award ahead of Ronsldo or Messi if they had a great year ?

mrkiscool2

keeponhurling wrote: »

It is strange she was the only woman out of the ten goals nominated.
You'd think that in a theoretically average year, it would be split 5 and 5.

Could. Women win the Player of the year award ahead of Ronsldo or Messi if they had a great year ?

I think everyone knows that males are better footballers than women. It's not sexist to say it. Some of the lower Premiership teams players would be better than the best female footballers. They have their own award at the Ballon D'or ceremony. However, a goal is all about the technique of the strike and the build-up. Any good footballer player has the ability to score a very good goal, it doesn't apply to gender. She is the 5th feamle nominee for the Puska and the first to make the last 3.

SEPT 23 1989

keeponhurling wrote: »

It is strange she was the only woman out of the ten goals nominated.
You'd think that in a theoretically average year, it would be split 5 and 5.

Could. Women win the Player of the year award ahead of Ronsldo or Messi if they had a great year ?

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

I think everyone knows that males are better footballers than women. It's not sexist to say it. Some of the lower Premiership teams players would be better than the best female footballers. They have their own award at the Ballon D'or ceremony. However, a goal is all about the technique of the strike and the build-up. Any good footballer player has the ability to score a very good goal, it doesn't apply to gender. She is the 5th feamle nominee for the Puska and the first to make the last 3.

I don't see a woman scoring that goal,i see a footballer

ASOT

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I don't see a woman scoring that goal,i see a footballer

Well im not trying to be smart but shes quite clearly a women.

anncoates

bucketybuck wrote: »

Is it the best goal or is it not? Is the setting relevant or is it not? Can't have it both ways.

Let it go. A player outside of your fanboy firmament is in the running. Your tired, lame sh1te about your weekly kickabout won't change that.

kfallon

Let me put it this way, if I scored that goal in a 5-a-side, 11-a-side, EPL, UCL, '3 goals in' on the street game I would immediately take off my footwear, walk off the pitch and retire from football. I would then get my boots framed, stick them on the mantlepiece and sit there every night re-watching the video of it!

It's a screamer, an absolute belter of a goal. Technically I think it's the best of the lot, it involved both feet and to control the ball, flick it over a defender and rifle it into the top corner without the ball touching the ground is amazing.

Anyone who doesn't think that deserves to be in the Top 3 knows nothing about football!

She should win it, it's streets ahead of RvP and James. I actually thought the only two to rival it was Kasami (the Fulham guy) and Ibra's goals!

Too Tough To Die

I have LOLd disparagingly at women's football many times. But that goal was amazing, one of the most pleasing on the eye i have ever seen.

It gets my vote.

Reganio 2

Why are you feeding the troll? Bit of cop on here.

bucketybuck

anncoates wrote: »

A player outside of your fanboy firmament is in the running.

I don't get this bit? Did you mean another word? It doesn't really make any sense in terms of the ongoing discussion.

The_Kew_Tour

It's terrific goal.

Deserves its place.

Rezident

Some great goals in there, I'd forgotten about Tim Cahill's that was class. Still torn but I'm leaning towards RvP.

Pudsy33

The Japanese one is outrageous.

anncoates

bucketybuck wrote: »

I don't get this bit?

No way?

bucketybuck

anncoates wrote: »

No way?

I know you probably thought you were being clever, but it really was a poor choice of words.

Turtyturd

I really thought the sh*te camera angle and quality was going to count against it, but glad to see it in the final 3, and good to see RTE levelling the playing field by showing all 3 goals in the worst quality footage they could find.

Also have to laugh at attempts to discredit the goal.

anncoates

bucketybuck wrote: »

I know you probably thought you were being clever, but it really was a poor choice of words.

I'm fine with it, to be honest.

mrkiscool2

Just a reminder to anyone who has not voted yet. James goal is favourite to win the award but I urge you to look at all 3 goals, and make your vote. Bookies have Steph as a clear second over RVP so if you think her goal is best vote for her. That does sound a little like "vote Steph" but look at all 3 and pick your favourite. Again, for me Steph's is the best of the last 3 but that's just my opinion. Make up your own mind and vote

mrkiscool2

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

Just a reminder to anyone who has not voted yet. James goal is favourite to win the award but I urge you to look at all 3 goals, and make your vote. Bookies have Steph as a clear second over RVP so if you think her goal is best vote for her. That does sound a little like "vote Steph" but look at all 3 and pick your favourite. Again, for me Steph's is the best of the last 3 but that's just my opinion. Make up your own mind and vote

For me RVP was the best goal.

mrkiscool2

Deleted User wrote: »

For me RVP was the best goal.

Awesome I'm not here to persuade anyone to vote for anyone, just since it's in the final stage of voting thought it deserved a bump

Muahahaha

Less than a week to go, vote early and vote often

http://www.fifa.com/ballon-dor/puskas-award/

vicwatson

What date can one vote until?

Donnielighto

Why is stephanie roche's goal rated so high?

With the amount of games played every week there are thousands of goals scored, of these there are bound to be some ridiculous goals, freaks that are absolutley amazing but also absolutely random. For me the stage matters, how lucky has roche been that there was a camera recording her goal?

She shouldnt win it, if the stage doesnt matter then it isnt the award for best goal it is the award for best recorded goal and that would be topped by any number of random occurances across the unrecorded leagues and kickabouts.

pmasterson95

Donnielighto wrote: »

Why is stephanie roche's goal rated so high?

With the amount of games played every week there are thousands of goals scored, of these there are bound to be some ridiculous goals, freaks that are absolutley amazing but also absolutely random. For me the stage matters, how lucky has roche been that there was a camera recording her goal?

She shouldnt win it, if the stage doesnt matter then it isnt the award for best goal it is the award for best recorded goal and that would be topped by any number of random occurances across the unrecorded leagues and kickabouts.

Dont kick kickabouts and unrecorded leagues are recorded by Fifa to be in the running tbf........

Donnielighto

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Dont kick kickabouts and unrecorded leagues are recorded by Fifa to be in the running tbf........

You're missing the point entirely. and unrecorded league refers to without camera's at game, which there are a lot of.

Pudsy33

Of course she was lucky it was recorded, cant deny that. However that doesn't diminish the skillfulness of the goal in any way.

Nailz

Donnielighto wrote: »

Why is stephanie roche's goal rated so high?

With the amount of games played every week there are thousands of goals scored, of these there are bound to be some ridiculous goals, freaks that are absolutley amazing but also absolutely random. For me the stage matters, how lucky has roche been that there was a camera recording her goal?

She shouldnt win it, if the stage doesnt matter then it isnt the award for best goal it is the award for best recorded goal and that would be topped by any number of random occurances across the unrecorded leagues and kickabouts.

As far as I know the FIFA Puskás Award is the award for best goal, and between the other 3, I think it's a bloody amazing goal, and many would argue it's better than RVP's and James' goals. So on that I think deserves to be in contention, or even to win it!

Mushy

Donnielighto wrote: »

Why is stephanie roche's goal rated so high?

With the amount of games played every week there are thousands of goals scored, of these there are bound to be some ridiculous goals, freaks that are absolutley amazing but also absolutely random. For me the stage matters, how lucky has roche been that there was a camera recording her goal?

She shouldnt win it, if the stage doesnt matter then it isnt the award for best goal it is the award for best recorded goal and that would be topped by any number of random occurances across the unrecorded leagues and kickabouts.

Has to be scored in the national top division. Yeah lucky it was recorded, but just because its recorded, doesn't make it eligible. It is a piece of fantastic skill with a strike to match it, it is worthy of being in contention.

Muahahaha

Latest odds from Paddy Power

James Rodriguez 8/15 Stephanie Roche 5/2 Robin Van Persie 5/1

She's pulled ahead of RVP!

dan1895

Muahahaha wrote: »

Latest odds from Paddy Power

James Rodriguez 8/15 Stephanie Roche 5/2 Robin Van Persie 5/1

She's pulled ahead of RVP!

Deservedly so. It's miles better.

Omackeral

dan1895 wrote: »

Deservedly so. It's miles better.

So were Tim Cahill's and Kasami's, for my money. Rodriguez has to win, absolute ridiculous belter off the underside of the crossbar in the World Cup finals, of all stages.

bobbysands81

Donnielighto wrote: »

Why is stephanie roche's goal rated so high?

With the amount of games played every week there are thousands of goals scored, of these there are bound to be some ridiculous goals, freaks that are absolutley amazing but also absolutely random. For me the stage matters, how lucky has roche been that there was a camera recording her goal?

She shouldnt win it, if the stage doesnt matter then it isnt the award for best goal it is the award for best recorded goal and that would be topped by any number of random occurances across the unrecorded leagues and kickabouts.

It's easily the best goal of the three that are still in the competition, the other two aren't even close to hers.

I have no doubt that being a woman is actually working against her, if a man had scored that goal he'd deffo win this competition.

Donnielighto

bobbysands81 wrote: »

It's easily the best goal of the three that are still in the competition, the other two aren't even close to hers.

I have no doubt that being a woman is actually working against her, if a man had scored that goal he'd deffo win this competition.

It isn't easily the best, I don't think it is the best and the fact you are putting it so far ahead to me reads as nationalist bias (big surprise with that username).

Stage matters, it was a great goal in a nothing game, they happen all the time. An audacious goal at the top table is much more impressive. Gender isn't really in it and bringing it in is disingenuous point scoring.

Fr Tod Umptious

Donnielighto wrote: »

It isn't easily the best, I don't think it is the best and the fact you are putting it so far ahead to me reads as nationalist bias (big surprise with that username).

Stage matters, it was a great goal in a nothing game, they happen all the time. An audacious goal at the top table is much more impressive. Gender isn't really in it and bringing it in is disingenuous point scoring.

I think gender is a huge part of why some do not appreciate the quality of the goal.

Remember she only scored against other girls !

Corholio

Donnielighto wrote: »

It isn't easily the best, I don't think it is the best and the fact you are putting it so far ahead to me reads as nationalist bias (big surprise with that username).

Stage matters, it was a great goal in a nothing game, they happen all the time. An audacious goal at the top table is much more impressive. Gender isn't really in it and bringing it in is disingenuous point scoring.

Why does have to be bias just because someone thinks it's the best goal? Surely that's more disingenuous point scoring? I'm sure goals similar to that happen all the time, great goals in general happen all the time, I am also sure that they would have also gained a following like her's did if it was as good or better. The heel flick set up and following strike is fantastic.

Donnielighto

Corholio wrote: »

Why does have to be bias just because someone thinks it's the best goal? Surely that's more disingenuous point scoring? I'm sure goals similar to that happen all the time, great goals in general happen all the time, I am also sure that they would have also gained a following like her's did if it was as good or better. The heel flick set up and following strike is fantastic.

Easily the best? I can understand saying it's the best but easily suggests some gulf that simply isnt there.

dfx-

Stage doesn't matter at all. It's an incredible goal if it was an empty pitch with cardboard cut out defenders.

Donnielighto

dfx- wrote: »

Stage doesn't matter at all. It's an incredible goal if it was an empty pitch with cardboard cut out defenders.

Then why limit it to top level leagues as was mentioned above, if stage doesnt matter then include all goals, everywhere.

dfx-

You could well do so.

But once all the entrants fit the starting criteria, which all these do, whether one goal was on one stage over the other doesn't matter.

Guy:Incognito

Public votes with unlimited voting devalue the whole thing and.turns the voting process in to a farce.
The winner could be decided by one eejit with enough time on his hands.

CSF

Kasami's was the winner for me. Does that mean I didn't vote for Stephanie Roche? Of course not.