Automatic 1 Year ban for causing crash on M50?

The Davestator

Automatic one year ban for causing a crash on the M50 - What do you think?

How can you crash into someone when you're travelling in the same direction as everyone else on a relatively straight road, at a max of 100kph on a perfectly surfaced road?

I travel on the M50 everyday and every small incident causes major delays for thousands of people. Some people miss important work meetings, college, miss picking their kids up etc.

The only reason you can crash into someone is beacuse you are not driving with due care.

Caliden

No.

thee glitz

Yes, also for the M4.

Generic Dreadhead

"Causing" is where it would become an issue IMHO, The Guards are not quiet CSI.

rizzodun

Is it not 120kph?

The_Valeyard

Does seem like there is a crash everyday on the m50/m4

Barely There

rizzodun wrote: »

Is it not 120kph?

No.

wandatowell

The Davestator wrote: »

Automatic one year ban for causing a crash on the M50 - What do you think?

How can you crash into someone when you're travelling in the same direction as everyone else on a relatively straight road, at a max of 100kph on a perfectly surfaced road?

I travel on the M50 everyday and every small incident causes major delays for thousands of people. Some people miss important work meetings, college, miss picking their kids up etc.

The only reason you can crash into someone is beacuse you are not driving with due care.

Are you saying people should get a 1 year driving ban for causing the accident or for causing you an inconvenience?

Don Kedick

rizzodun wrote: »

Is it not 120kph?

That's a ban for you.

Stheno

Barely There wrote: »

No.

Is after j13 northbound and before it southbound

Dravokivich

The Davestator wrote: »

Automatic one year ban for causing a crash on the M50 - What do you think?

How can you crash into someone when you're travelling in the same direction as everyone else on a relatively straight road, at a max of 100kph on a perfectly surfaced road?

I travel on the M50 everyday and every small incident causes major delays for thousands of people. Some people miss important work meetings, college, miss picking their kids up etc.

The only reason you can crash into someone is beacuse you are not driving with due care.

Something out of a drivers control?

If the wheel was to come off as a result of an unknown fault on their vehicle, would you consider it was them who caused the crash?

castletownman

I firmly believe that instead of having a MAX speed limit, they should have a speed threshold on roads (so say instead of 50KM, would be 40-60KM or whatever). Should lessen the number of ridiculously slow drivers, and thus lead to less frustrated drivers getting impatient and attempting an overtaking maneouver in a dangerous part of the road.

I'd love to see the statistics of "Sunday drivers" causing road-rage.

RichardoKhan

Amazed there isnt more given the sheer amount of under taking, tailgating, poor lane discipline, lane hopping, excessive speeding, lack of indicating etc etc

Macy0161

Barely There wrote: »

No.

Parts of it are.

anncoates

Everybody knows the majority of time consuming accidents on M50 are caused by sh1theads tailgating or haring through lanes a few hundred yards before an exit but it's proving it is the problem.

Topper Harley

1 year ban? Why stop there? Hang them! In fact, hang everyone who inconveniences me in any way.

smash

Barely There wrote: »

No.

Where the accident happened this morning was in a 120 zone.

anncoates

castletownman wrote: »

I firmly believe that instead of having a MAX speed limit, they should have a speed threshold on roads (so say instead of 50KM, would be 40-60KM or whatever). Should lessen the number of ridiculously slow drivers, and thus lead to less frustrated drivers getting impatient and attempting an overtaking maneouver in a dangerous part of the road

You do know you don't have to make a dangerous maneuver? It's like telling a judge you had no choice but to kick somebody's head in because they were annoying you.

BoJack Horseman

Imagine a group of tricksters decided to coordinate a series of collisions/breakdowns at key points around the city.

Say: Santry, M3 interchange, Newlands cross, Sandyford & M11/bray.

The city would collapse on itself.

Tabnabs

One hundred lashes for every tool who rubbernecks and causes the actual back-log of traffic, would be more my thinking.

Macy0161

anncoates wrote: »

Everybody knows the majority of time consuming accidents on M50 are caused by sh1theads tailgating or haring through lanes a few hundred yards before an exit but it's proving it is the problem.

Well at least Southbound this morning, it wasn't even an accident that caused the delay - it was all the nosey nobheads who had to slow down for a good gawp at the Northbound accident!

Streetwalker

No.

anncoates

Macy0161 wrote: »

Well at least Southbound this morning, it wasn't even an accident that caused the delay - it was all the nosey nobheads who had to slow down for a good gawp at the Northbound accident!

No accidents; no rubberneckers

Topper Harley

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Imagine a group of tricksters decided to coordinate a series of collisions/breakdowns at key points around the city.

Say: Santry, M3 interchange, Newlands cross, Sandyford & M11/bray.

The city would collapse on itself.

Yeah, fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

I like the Jasper Carrott idea - make them take the driving test again.

A third crash in the same spot a short time ago :rolleyes:

LiveDrive
M50 northbound: A car has overturned in the exact same spot as the two earlier accidents after J13 Dundrum. Please slow down on the M50!
11/13/14, 1:43 PM

BoJack Horseman

Topper Harley wrote: »

Yeah, fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together

If you looked at twitter this morning....pretty much!

stevedublin

Stheno wrote: »

Is after j13 northbound and before it southbound

No.

Caliden

cisk wrote: »

A third crash in the same spot a short time ago :rolleyes:

LiveDrive
M50 northbound: A car has overturned in the exact same spot as the two earlier accidents after J13 Dundrum. Please slow down on the M50!
11/13/14, 1:43 PM

Aquaplaned. Most likely had **** tyres.

The_Valeyard

cisk wrote: »

A third crash in the same spot a short time ago :rolleyes:

LiveDrive
M50 northbound: A car has overturned in the exact same spot as the two earlier accidents after J13 Dundrum. Please slow down on the M50!
11/13/14, 1:43 PM

Serious?

Well,, f*ck that


(do hope that everyone is okay though)

Stheno

stevedublin wrote: »

No.

Meant the other way rounf

BoJack Horseman

Caliden wrote: »

Aquaplaned. Most likely had **** tyres.

Every tyre has a grading indicator for wet weather performance.

I'd pass a law today requiring a minimum of a 'C' grade for use on Irish roads.

paulbok

Topper Harley wrote: »

Yeah, fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

I take it you didn't notice the almost citywide traffic chaos caused by 1 lorryload of hay being on fire on the M50 N a few weeks back?

micosoft

The big issue is tailgaters. Today in appalling weather you had people with no lights cruising less then two metres off my tailgate at 80 (traffic ahead so that was the limit I could go at).

The guards need to stick a car on the M50 (estate) with rear-facing camera and distance monitor. Anyone who closes in less then a car length when over 30km gets an automatic fine and penalty points. If they did that for a couple of months I'd say you'd eliminate the bulk of accidents and create a nice revenue stream to buy a couple of new cars for them.....

recylingbin

The Davestator wrote: »

The only reason you can crash into someone is beacuse you are not driving with due care.

or a blowout.
or mechanical failure.
or a sneeze(nearly did this myself once)
or avoiding a dangerous driver.
or a scumbag dropping a concrete block onto your windscreen from the bridge above,

There are plenty of reasons. they're called accidents after all.

BoJack Horseman

paulbok wrote: »

I take it you didn't notice the almost citywide traffic chaos caused by 1 lorryload of hay being on fire on the M50 N a few weeks back?

Or 2 guys sitting down in the road on O'Connell street with Guy Fawkes masks bringing the centre to a halt.

Traffic chaos is very simple to achieve.

The Backwards Man

I agree.

Accidents are only ever caused by other people, and as I am the world's greatest driver and will never ever make a mistake or cause an incident ever this wouldn't impact on me and only other people.

Ban them all, Judge Dredd style.

Tailgaters and lack of indicating are pretty big ones. That and people refusing to merge at more than half the speed the rest of the traffic is doing

And then half the disruption afterwards is people slowing down to rubberneck. gtfo

The Davestator

recylingbin wrote: »

or a blowout.
or mechanical failure.
or a sneeze(nearly did this myself once)
or avoiding a dangerous driver.
or a scumbag dropping a concrete block onto your windscreen from the bridge above,

There are plenty of reasons. they're called accidents after all.

Hmmm. I'll amend my legislation to include some of this. Want to be my deputy transport minister?

The Backwards Man

bluewolf wrote: »

Tailgaters and lack of indicating are pretty big ones. That and people refusing to merge at more than half the speed the rest of the traffic is doing

And then half the disruption afterwards is people slowing down to rubberneck. gtfo

The biggest factor in tailbacks is actually people braking to avoid the car in front, and then accelerating at varying speeds causing a concertina effect.

Ban brake and accelerator pedals, and we're on a winner.

The Davestator

It's normally idiots looking at their phone who go into the back of someone. Definite ban for them.

con___manx1

castletownman wrote: »

I firmly believe that instead of having a MAX speed limit, they should have a speed threshold on roads (so say instead of 50KM, would be 40-60KM or whatever). Should lessen the number of ridiculously slow drivers, and thus lead to less frustrated drivers getting impatient and attempting an overtaking maneouver in a dangerous part of the road.

I'd love to see the statistics of "Sunday drivers" causing road-rage.

50/60k would be better.stuck behind someone doing 40 in a 60 zone would do my head in unless the driving conditions are bad

Putinovsky

Its common practice to slow down if there's an accident on side of the road, not necessarily always 'rubber neckers'

anncoates

It stands to reason that when there's torrential rain and a half inch of surface water on the motorway, you increase your speed.

smash

Bet there'll be a "safety" van there this evening to stop these crashes!

Bummer1234

smash wrote: »

Bet there'll be a "safety" van there this evening to stop these crashes!

If the traffic is to go on what it was this morning Southbound...Then the "safety" van laser won't go very high!

Dial Hard

Putinovsky wrote: »

Its common practice to slow down if there's an accident on side of the road, not necessarily always 'rubber neckers'

Mmm hmm, so explain the inevitable massive delays on the opposite carriageway, then?

KungPao

The 49 and 51 are even worse.

Giruilla

There should be penalty points for anyone grinding to halt in the left lane to queue hop into an exit lane they could have joined a kilometre back.

Topper Harley

paulbok wrote: »

I take it you didn't notice the almost citywide traffic chaos caused by 1 lorryload of hay being on fire on the M50 N a few weeks back?

I was aware of it but it didn't affect me.

The J Stands for Jay

Topper Harley wrote: »

Yeah, fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

Who ya gonna call to fix that?