Euro 2016: Scotland v Republic of Ireland - 7:45 KO 14/11

Broxi_Bear_Eire

nice_guy80 wrote: »

shower of ignorant Scottish fans

Why

kryogen

We are a pretty poor side, with poor tactics, not a great recipe for success.

briany

Maloney! Traitor!

LuckyGent88

Really Disappointing result.

Was always going to be decided by a mistake or a great strike and in the end it was a bit of both.

Poor defending for the goal but very well taken by Maloney.

BobbyPropane

"The Poles" hmmm

Utopia Parkway

Scotland are not great but they did have the two cleverest players on the pitch in Naismith and Maloney. The nearest comparison with us is probably Wes Hoolahan who wouldn't have been selected anyway even if he was fit.

Strachan in fairness trusts player who can play a bit. Like Trap not sure MON does.

Hammer Archer

Awful display. Makes the point in Gelsenkirchen seem worthless. Would have taken a loss there had we gotten something tonight.

kryogen

Luck runs out eventually I guess

Dempsey

sky88 wrote: »

Surley there is a better left back than ward thats irish terrible player

This would be better than Ward

edgecutter

The sad thing is Scotland don't have amazing players, yet they made our boys look like a pub team. Poor management by O'neill.
Coleman has just said there that we didn't want to lose, nothing about wanting to win.

Duff

Shítehawks.

GavRedKing

The next game is to Poland at home is make or break, IMO.

Lose that and we're f**ked.

Will I Amnt

Same old sh*te, it's like Trap never left us.

AllGunsBlazing

Deleted User wrote: »

"Just about shaded it" lol

Gave me a wry chuckle as well.

Tox56

Scottie99 wrote: »

Sorry lads we deserved it

Draw wouldn't have been unfair either, two pretty average sides if were honest

Pudsy33

Brady needs to start ahead of McGeady or McClean. Even for the quality of crosses alone.

Aidric

kryogen wrote: »

We are a pretty poor side, with poor tactics, not a great recipe for success.

We are average but we should have been capable of getting a draw in this game. I think O Neill hoped McGeady would rise above it tonight and be the lynchpin but he got swallowed up by the atmosphere.

Adamcp898

That was pish, what sort of bloody game plan was that.

Trap out.

GavRedKing

TBH, 7 points at 4 games is what id expect

beat georgia and gibraltar,

Lose to germany

And draw with scotland

Its not worked that way but weve got the same amount of points that youd expect, TBH.

nullzero

Had we produced that under Trap we'd be calling for his sacking. What is O'Neill trying to achieve with the set up he's going for?

twinytwo

different manager, same ****e.... just lob it up and pray. why do even bother playing with a midfield

roanoke

GavRedKing wrote: »

The next game is to Poland at home is make or break, IMO.

After our last two performances I'll put my money on break.

Mr.Prodston

Surely we could try Brady at LB going forward? Playing wingback for Hull at the moment. He improved things when he came on further up the pitch though.

cournioni

McGeady did **** all, should have been him off instead of Long. Brady did well when he came on, our back four was solid over all too.

BobbyPropane

Dunphy being nice, strange.

Ulysses Gaze

nullzero wrote: »

Had we produced that under Trap we'd be calling for his sacking. What is O'Neill trying to achieve with the set up he's going for?

It's typical O'Neill football. No better than Trap.

kryogen

edgecutter wrote: »

The sad thing is Scotland don't have amazing players, yet they made our boys look like a pub team. Poor management by O'neill.
Coleman has just said there that we didn't want to lose, nothing about wanting to win.

You may have missed the first part of his sentence then where he said, we came to win

BobbyPropane

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Surely we could try Brady at LB going forward? Playing wingback for Hull at the moment. He improved things when he came on further up the pitch though.

Brady - McClean wing sounds good

madcabbage

Jesus would someone put a gag on Dunphy, out with his favourite word 'guile' again.

Liam O

GavRedKing wrote: »

TBH, 7 points at 4 games is what id expect

beat georgia and gibraltar,

Lose to germany

And draw with scotland

Its not worked that way but weve got the same amount of points that youd expect, TBH.

It's giving Scotland 2 more though...

whatawaster

nullzero wrote: »

Had we produced that under Trap we'd be calling for his sacking. What is O'Neill trying to achieve with the set up he's going for?

He is a very average manager and had been getting worse as he gets older. Not sure why anyone expected better. The country got caught up in the Martin/Roy "dream ticket" nonsense.

RoryMac

Disappointing but there's nothing between the 2 teams on paper but Scotland rose to the occasion.

We were seriously lacking in central midfield and for me the big difference was the reluctance of our midfielders to get on the ball vs the Scottish players.

We were quite good at the back but eventually the pressure they put us under paid off.

Dempsey

Oh lord, Dunphy saw a player having a bad game and tar him with a brush, ffs

irishmover

This Ireland team is capable of playing football. What I seen today wasn't football. Hoofball is more appropriate.

We are a better side than Scotland. However, just like Ireland have before, Scotland upped their game and completely deserved the win. I think I'd much rather lay blame on Martin O'Neill than anyone else. The players were restricted by his tactics in the second half and I think its been a hefty lesson for him.

Going forward he needs to realise that these sort of tactics are the reason why Trap isn't here.

Against Scotland we should be attacking with a good passing game not hoofing from the back. I feel that if Martin was a little more ballsy and less reserved we would have rolled this Scotland team over.

Fantastic goal from a Scotland POV, but awful defending all the same.

We'll most likely lose to Poland and our position in the group will become more clear.

We had the chance to keep up with Poland and Germany but now its gone.

AllGunsBlazing

nullzero wrote: »

Had we produced that under Trap we'd be calling for his sacking. What is O'Neill trying to achieve with the set up he's going for?

O'Neill seems to have about the same level of belief in the ability of these players as his predecessor did.

nullzero

whatawaster wrote: »

He is a very average manager and had been getting worse as he gets older. Not sure why anyone expected better. The country got caught up in the Martin/Roy "dream ticket" nonsense.

The auld dream ticket, could be worse it could be a world class management team.

Liam O

BobbyPropane wrote: »

Brady - McClean wing sounds good

McGeady nearly had a goal and assist tonight, he needs to play, just because he made some bad decisions it doesn't outweigh that he's our best attacking player. Some people have short memories.

edgecutter

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Surely we could try Brady at LB going forward? Playing wingback for Hull at the moment. He improved things when he came on further up the pitch though.

I agree, Ward was awful. Time and time agin the ball was on the ground and he would let it roll for a throw or lump the ball to the scots. A paid professional!

hadepsx

Coleman said they came here to win.but first and foremost not to loose.

Failed miserably on both counts

Adamocovic

GavRedKing wrote: »

TBH, 7 points at 4 games is what id expect

beat georgia and gibraltar,

Lose to germany

And draw with scotland

Its not worked that way but weve got the same amount of points that youd expect, TBH.

That would have been more ideal in my eyes. The head to head tiebreaker will be a big one with Scotland. Definitely need to beat them next time around. A draw won't do.

Poland will be a very tough game, good break until then so hopefully they can prepare well for it.

BobbyPropane

Liam O wrote: »

McGeady nearly had a goal and assist tonight, he needs to play, just because he made some bad decisions it doesn't outweigh that he's our best attacking player. Some people have short memories.

I meant on the left wing, Brady lb and McClean lm. McGeady still on the right

rob316

O neill is a dire manager who always resorts to hoof ball but let's face facts those players bar a couple are bang average.

Our strikers are so one dimensional same with our wingers.

Turtyturd

Pudsy33 wrote: »

Brady needs to start ahead of McGeady or McClean. Even for the quality of crosses alone.

And his tight marking at corners.

Rob Thomas

We've been terrible. Scotland well deserved it. Jury still out on O'Neill IMO. He seemed unable to change the things going wrong throughout the game and we never tried to play the ball on the ground. Most of the players were unable to adjust and made poor decisions again and again. I can't see how O'Neill has put any "smartness" into that team. We gave the ball away so cheaply all night.

Mindless that we tried to outdo Scotland in the physical stakes. That was a naive tactic given the passionate build up to the game. And even at that, only one team played football tonight and it was not Ireland.

O'Neill came tonight for a point with no other ambition beyond that. I wouldn't be harsh on him for that but it was clear after 10 minutes that was not going to work out and I didn't see anything from O'Neill that showed he was in any way able to do anything about it. IMO he is trading at the minute on his past reputation because he has brought very little to this team. We are not playing any better than under Trap and the passion O'Neill is famed for was already there under Trap.

You'll never win games if you give the ball away like we do so so often.

The players tried so hard and well done to them. But Scotland were much better tonight.

fullstop

"we'd never take a short corner" LOL

edgecutter

rob316 wrote: »

O neill is a dire manager who always resorts to hoof ball but let's face facts those players bar a couple are bang average.

So are the scots, that's why I and others are annoyed. Strachan got his ordinary team playing properly and they deserved to win.

Utopia Parkway

Not a great game from McGeady but he has to play. He's one of the very very few Ireland players who can actually create something. We have enough trouble creating chances as it is.

Dempsey

Yes, Walters & Long failed miserably tonight along with Gibson & Hendricks. Everyone else suffers horrifically when these four positions lack a good performance.

Strongbow10

poor tactics from the off, long balls were bread and butter for an average Scottish defence, to say we didn't play at all to expose their weaknesses on the ground is simply scandalous.

Trap said it many times, we have a lack of personality in the middle of the field. You don't just hit a switch with your players and tell them to "play football" in midfield. The personalities in midfield will try and impose their will on the game, but we don't have any.

Lumping it forward tonight is a cop out, its a cowards game passing the buck for the next man to lose possession, absolutely no courage in midfield to set a tempo or impose their own will on the game.

Whittaker, Hanley and Russell Martin are mediocre defenders, Hanley is a penalty waiting to happen when you run at him but we decide to lump high balls in on top of him, its baffling

Billy86

whatawaster wrote: »

Scotland do not have better players than Ireland. Maloney, anya and Naismith are no better than Long, McGeady and McClean.

Why we continue to employ coaches who instill no confidence in footballers is beyond me.

Well done Strachan

I'm sorry but they do. You never mentioned Maloney, Scott Brown, Marshall, Mulgrew, Morrison and Steven Fletcher.

We might have them in terms of CB and RB, but that's about it.