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Are irish degrees seperated into class (1:1, 2:1 etc)?

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  • 15-11-2014 1:04pm
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    romakarol
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    Currently in 6th year. A lot of articles I read mentioned employers wanting "2:1 degrees". As I read it, a 2:1 degree is a degree done to a high standard, while 1:1 means you did brilliant over every course and test. This is in the UK.

    Are Irish degrees done the same way? If I get, say, a bachelors will it say on the degree "first class second devision bachelors degree in computer science" or whatever? Can't find a pdf of an actual degree for the life of me, anyone got one they can scan?

    Does the same rating apply to masters/phd? E.g can you have a 2:1 bachelors, a 2:1 masters, a 2:1 phd?


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    Polar Ice
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    Yes, degrees in Ireland are awarded on the basis of 1:1, 2:1, 2:2, etc...
    romakarol wrote: »
    Can't find a pdf of an actual degree for the life of me, anyone got one they can scan?
    No. We're not big into scanning our degrees onto boards.ie for you
    romakarol wrote: »
    Does the same rating apply to masters/phd? E.g can you have a 2:1 bachelors, a 2:1 masters, a 2:1 phd?
    It depends. Generally a taught degree will have a "rating", where as a research degree won't.


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    challengemaster
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    romakarol wrote: »
    Currently in 6th year. A lot of articles I read mentioned employers wanting "2:1 degrees". As I read it, a 2:1 degree is a degree done to a high standard, while 1:1 means you did brilliant over every course and test. This is in the UK.
    Irish segregation is as follows:

    1H - First Class Honours: > 70%

    2H1 - Second Class Hons, Grade 1: 60% - 69%

    2H2 - Second Class Hons, grade 2: 50% - 59%

    3H - Third Class Honours: 45% - 49%

    Pass: > 40% - 44%
    Are Irish degrees done the same way? If I get, say, a bachelors will it say on the degree "first class second devision bachelors degree in computer science" or whatever? Can't find a pdf of an actual degree for the life of me, anyone got one they can scan?
    Irish degrees are done the same way - but what's actually on the certificate will vary drastically between institutions. For example, all certs awarded from NUIG (and I believe all the NUI's) are entirely in latin. There is also no class of degree written on the cert.

    Here's an example I found - This is an exact scan of an NUI degree.
    http://www.joegarvey.com/images/ParchmentCopyOfDegreeCertificate0001%20copy.gif
    Does the same rating apply to masters/phd? E.g can you have a 2:1 bachelors, a 2:1 masters, a 2:1 phd?

    Depends on the Masters degree. Some are pass/fail degrees, where you either get over 40% and get awarded the degree, or you do not. Others follow the usual rating structure.

    PhD's don't follow the same system at all. For a PhD you are usually required to submit a thesis to 2 internal and 1 external examiner. You then have a viva, where you defend the thesis.

    This is a breakdown of the possible outcomes for a PhD:
    Possible Outcomes|Nature of Correction (Time limits)
    Award PhD | None
    Award PhD | Typographical Corrections (1 month)
    Award PhD | Minor corrections in content (1 month)
    Award PhD | Major corrections in content (3 months)
    Refer | Permit submission of a revised thesis without a second viva (1 year)
    Refer | Permit submission of a revised thesis with a second viva (1 year)
    Award a Masters Degree | None
    Award a Masters Degree | Subject to typographical corrections
    Award a Masters Degree | Subject to corrections in content
    Reject | No recommendation as to resubmission


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