This is England '90 in 2015

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It is strange seeing Thomas Turgoose (Shaun) grown up

KKkitty

Here we go

K.C

Great intro

Jon Stark

Lip up to his backdoor tricks again.

ollie1

This is awful so far

memorystick

Disappointing

Panthro

I'm enjoying it. Woody singing 'I've gone too farrrr' was hilarious.

K.C

ollie1 wrote: »

This is awful so far

I disagree. This is purely a introductory episode, familiarise yourself with character etc. Knowing Shane Meadows it will get very dark in the coming weeks.

Jon Stark

I've found to be quite good, some funny sh1t.

ricero

I'm enjoying it but just like 86 and 88 the first episode was always the slowest

K.C

Anyone know what the song was at the end?

KKkitty

Woody's conversation with his parents was funny. I quite enjoyed that now. Shaun is gone so grown up. This is another reason I like the gaps between the series. Characters age realistically.

tony1kenobi

It was good. As good as the rest of the series. Are some here first time viewers?

ohnonotgmail

the scene at the snooker table was comedy gold

arcticmonkeys

I thought it got off to a poor start but improved as the episode went along. Also Vicky McClure is a great actress.

Plus Meadows never seems to go down the Nick Love route and turn it into a 90s retro throwback. The shows defiantly has an authentic feel to it.

spiderdan

found it very disappointing, coming from a huge fan!

drugstore cowboy

I loved it and the music was superb. Must dig out my Stone Roses & Happy Mondays albums

theteal

It was slow and uneventful but I was expecting that from the first episode. It was the wife's first sample of This is England (I was trying to explain some of the character backgrounds without giving too much away in spoilers - quite difficult) and she enjoyed it and will watch the back catalogue.

"Don't lez off in front of my kids" had the pair of us in stitches well into the ad break!

gucci

theteal wrote: »

It was slow and uneventful but I was expecting that from the first episode. It was the wife's first sample of This is England (I was trying to explain some of the character backgrounds without giving too much away in spoilers - quite difficult) and she enjoyed it and will watch the back catalogue.

"Don't lez off in front of my kids" had the pair of us in stitches well into the ad break!

I enjoyed it too but largely nothing happened. I guess that may be the sign of a good show, when the acting and shooting is so good that you just roll with it regarding the story. As previous series have shown, we will be knocked over by something pretty hard hitting soon, so enjoy the good times.

Woody is a great character and the actor that plays him is excellent (and always has been) he gets some fantastic comedy lines, but his presence and body language just makes you believe every thing he does or says.

My line of the night was when he was describing Lols family as being normal:

"Oh yeah I forgot about the Dad and the hammer thing"

custard gannet

tony1kenobi wrote: »

It was good. As good as the rest of the series. Are some here first time viewers?

I am, and I thought it was a bit meh.

Maybe it's just because we are in the internet age and all of that but I didn't get how of a group of Northerners in 1990, only the bearded lad had half a clue as to who the likes of the Stone Roses and the rest of the Madchester scene were, despite the fact the scene was going strong there from about 87 and was nationwide by the summer of 1989 the rest of them hadn't even heard of them. I also found it a bit odd the way the characters were only showing to be drinking and dong speed at the rave yet were floating around the place seemingly melted on e's, which of course was the defining drug of the era as much as LSD and weed were of the late 60's counterculture. Did channel 4 have some moral objection to clearly showing and thus glorifying ecstasy use ?

Given the way that they edit Simpsons episodes of pretty much any scene remotely edgy it wouldn't surprise me. It's hard to believe 4 was once considered a bit of an anti establishment firebrand.

The 90's documentary that followed t was very good mind, some soundtrack to it if you leave out the Nirvana rubbish.

Ruu

Good start, sniff bangin' one might say.

Basq

Slow and uneventful maybe.. but the TIE 86 and 88 definitely were definitely funnier and had a higher quality of writing IMO. That's not to say it wasn't enjoyable.. just definitely the weakest of the three openers IMO.

philstar

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the scene at the snooker table was comedy gold

what was that about?? couldn't make head no tail of it.....the dialog is hard to grasp with the regional accents, i'll have to use the subtitles i suppose

btw...what were they smoking in the flat??

Caovyn Lineah

philstar wrote: »

what was that about?? couldn't make head no tail of it.....the dialog is hard to grasp with the regional accents, i'll have to use the subtitles i suppose

btw...what were they smoking in the flat??

The scene at the Snooker table was sniffbanging and they were smoking hash

fryup

sniffbanging?? never heard of that before...was it all the rage back then?

Lenin Skynard

I know it's early days but I thought this was a very poor effort. It really just felt like watching Grange Hill but with swearing and drugs. Woody comes off as a disingenuous arse and the Flip and Iggy scenes were terrible.

Maybe they should have just left it alone. I'll watch the next episode all the same, still hoping that it picks up a bit.

ohnonotgmail

fryup wrote: »

sniffbanging?? never heard of that before...was it all the rage back then?

I think the blonde guy just made it up so he could shag that girl. She seemed gullible enough to believe something like that.

fryup

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

I know it's early days but I thought this was a very poor effort.

i agree

Long lingering shots of people dancing doesn't make good drama, just a lazy way of filling time

maybe it will improve

CastorTroy

CastorTroy wrote: »

Movie and a recap were on film4 last night so I recorded them. Currently watching the movie.

Weren't the previous series nightly? I may wait until the last week to start watching the new one

Having never watched any of it,I recorded the movie from Film Four and watched it last night.I will watch 86 & 88 on ALL4 and then 90 on CH4.

Amazing acting from Thomas Turgoose considering what he was going through in his private life during filming (mother died just after filming,from cancer).Stephen Graham was brilliant as Combo and he went on to star in Boardwalk Empire where he was brilliant again as Al Capone!

Regarding the Falklands conflict,it just showed what a pointless war and waste of young mens lives.Thatcher was some moo!

FelineOverLord

fryup wrote: »

i agree

Long lingering shots of people dancing doesn't make good drama, just a lazy way of filling time

maybe it will improve

I think they were just trying to show the vibe from raves, there's a generation who won't know what it was like, the whole euphoria thing when ecstasy replaced alcohol. The only thing that really bothered me was the scruffy state of Woody in the filthy t-shirt with the dirty beard.

Jon Stark

FelineOverLord wrote: »

I think they were just trying to show the vibe from raves, there's a generation who won't know what it was like, the whole euphoria thing when ecstasy replaced alcohol. The only thing that really bothered me was the scruffy state of Woody in the filthy t-shirt with the dirty beard.

I liked it as his style has always been heavily inspired by the times. This is his plainest or most mundane look to date but it's one that matches the gimmickless of the 90s quite well.

leonards

Jon Stark wrote: »

I liked it as his style has always been heavily inspired by the times. This is his plainest or most mundane look to date but it's one that matches the gimmickless of the 90s quite well.

The intro had a lot of heavy topics like the poll tax riots, strangeway prison riot, herione needles etc... But the episode was wishy washy and didn't deal with any heavy topics... I expect things to ramp up in the second episode....

trashcan

fryup wrote: »

i agree

Long lingering shots of people dancing doesn't make good drama, just a lazy way of filling time

maybe it will improve

I wouldn't judge it on the basis of one episode, anymore than I'd judge a novel after one chapter. Really think it's only at the end you can look back and decide if it was a satisfying story, well told.

Panthro

This is a slow episode.
I feel something big is on the horizon.

memorystick

Slow and heavy but very real.

Pink Lemons

Just when I was thinking it would be another filler type episode with not a whole lot happening like last week that ending happened, Shane Meadows knows how to do drama that's for sure! Have a feeling the final two episodes will be pretty bleak.

Lisha

Jesus the ending was brutal upsetting. Nothing I can say about it really.

I'm a newbie to this show so I can only apologize if this is a very stupid question

Woody lying on couch wrapped around yer man, with his girlfriend sitting beside him... Are the two men just friends or what?

Thanks

KKkitty

I'm loving this so far. I really don't mind that it's slow paced at all. It will only get more morose as the series goes on.

SuperGrover

Lisha wrote: »

Jesus the ending was brutal upsetting. Nothing I can say about it really.

I'm a newbie to this show so I can only apologize if this is a very stupid question

Woody lying on couch wrapped around yer man, with his girlfriend sitting beside him... Are the two men just friends or what?

Thanks

Yeah, mates is all. I would record the rest of the episodes and in the meanwhile, go back, start at the beginning with the film, then '86 and '88.

This is all about their journey and the context of it.

Ash.J.Williams

Lisha wrote: »

Jesus the ending was brutal upsetting. Nothing I can say about it really.

I'm a newbie to this show so I can only apologize if this is a very stupid question

Woody lying on couch wrapped around yer man, with his girlfriend sitting beside him... Are the two men just friends or what?

Thanks

they've all been through a lot together!!

Ash.J.Williams

Meadows always nails the drugs scenes....the scene at the hippy camp was 100%


Anyone spot Herbie from "Dead mans shoes" last night???

Tipsy McSwagger

That episode was comedy gold with some outstanding acting throughout.

KKkitty

Anyone know what car Harvey was driving last night? I really felt sorry for Kelly.

Basq

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

That episode was comedy gold with some outstanding acting throughout.

Thomas Turgoose is the best he's been this year IMO..

ohnonotgmail

ah nuts, i forgot about this last night. is it repeated during the week?

KKkitty

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

ah nuts, i forgot about this last night. is it repeated during the week?

I think it is. Check your TV guide anyway.

Ash.J.Williams

KKkitty wrote: »

Anyone know what car Harvey was driving last night? I really felt sorry for Kelly.

is this one????

http://www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/vauxhall-chevette_3-door_3.jpg

Ash.J.Williams

Basq wrote: »

Thomas Turgoose is the best he's been this year IMO..

his acting in the scene with the older lady was classic sean!!

KKkitty

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

is this one????

http://www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/vauxhall-chevette_3-door_3.jpg

Was there a 5 door version of that car? Kelly and Gadget should get together. He'd look after her.

Lenin Skynard

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Anyone spot Herbie from "Dead mans shoes" last night???

Yeah I saw him. Took me a minute to remember that Dead Man's Shoes isn't a part of the same world. He's aged a bit.