Target Practice

annapr

aquinn wrote: »

Delayed start, I'm nervous.

are you there? cool... we expect commentary!

aquinn

annapr wrote:

are you there? cool... we expect commentary!

I was going to record but thought I'd drop the phone. Will never be a track runner as jumped at each gun.

libelula

aquinn wrote: »

I was going to record but thought I'd drop the phone. Will never be a track runner as jumped at each gun.

Sure wouldn't a 'jump start' give you a couple of seconds advantage?

Dubgal72

Race Report Graded Meeting #5 1500m, Santry 5:12 (unofficial)

I was quietly optimistic about this one. Recent training sessions were promising a good return. I had tapered well but kept the legs ticking over. Sleep could have been better but has been far less broken than previous months. I had practiced plenty of strong and positive visualisation. I had also welcomed the familiar track nerves when they surfaced closer to the day but channelled them and put them away when they showed signs of fluttering out of their box

Today was quite a relaxed day with only offspring #2 at home so no rushing around like the usual blue-arsed fly. He even played ball and napped for over an hour this afternoon. On the way in to Santry, I felt myself go into the zone. A bit tetchy and a bit quiet. Poor dad who was driving :eek: He's seen it all before though

Traffic was a bit snarly so we got there a bit later than I would have liked. Still plenty of time for a nice relaxed 40 min warm up: 20 mins jogging, leithreas, drills then strides on the track. First caution of the evening was my left Achilles when starting the first drill, gentle skips. Hmmmm. Left out a couple of the more dynamic ones just in case. ECOLII nowhere to be seen but I'm not sure it was sore enough at this stage to warrant any DNS advice. The strides didn't seem to aggravate it but at the same time it didn't go away.

The B race lined up and we were left waiting five minutes or so whilst the decision was made re combining the A and B races. Thankfully there was enough in each to warrant separate. Phew.

First lap: 78
Off we went and I settled into a comfortable fourth by the home straight. 58 or 59 for the first 300 and 78 for the first 400. Breathing a little heavy at 300 but legs felt fine. I was conscious that I needed to prevent the pace drop too much after 400 buuuuut...

Second lap 86
This is where I can't put my finger on it but I couldn't maintain and this lap is where I lost a few places. Nevertheless, I was surprised and disappointed to hear 2:44 called out at 800. Remember, I had gone through 800 in 2:45 in early May so had hoped for something around the 2:40 tonight.

Third lap 84
My focus tonight was to keep focus in this lap...and dig in no matter how I was feeling; tired or strong. So at least I managed to do that but it took a lot out of me.

Last 300 63
I had nothing to give this last bit, no kick, no nothing
Shame. That had been one of the more pleasurable parts of my visualisation :rolleyes: I could have tried harder to reel the athletes ahead of me in but I couldn't hear anyone chasing me so maybe I need to be chased?!

This felt a lot harder than the Wicklow Senior championship at the beginning of May. I had absolutely no kick left tonight, unlike the Wicklow's where I felt like a powerhouse.
My race was won in 4:59 I think but will have to see that confirmed tomorrow.


Aquinn came rushing to my rescue straight after the race as I stood doubled over on the track gasping for breath (A, it's ok, this is normal after a 1500 ). She huddled me back to the start and ensured I 'got a drink into me' Thanks A!
She also introduced me to AMK, getting ready for his 1500 debut but we didn't chat as i am sure the last thing he wanted was to make small talk to an internet randomer in the 5 minutes prior to his race I repaid her kindness by forcing her to shuffle around the track with me for a warm down lap hehe. Achilles super tender by now :eek: but no twinge during the race.

The ladies A race went leaping round like gazelles, first lap in a super-speedy 72. Aquinn was more impressed when I put that in context: 70 seconds is a SINGLE lap which will get you on the 10 Round Numbers Table :eek: It was a championship race and was won in the champion-deserving time of 4:29.

AMK ran a fantastic 1500 race to finish 3rd in what he later said was his first track race. Didn't get to see TAFKA ECOLII run, or Krusty as the pa was driving and had to get him home for an early night in prep for his Wicklow Way Walk starting this Saturday

I limped a 1000m or so warm down and am now licking my wounds and icing that Achilles.
Really, it is early days in 1500 training yet. I have only completed three sessions and a longish run. Nevertheless, I had hoped to see a more significant move forwards. If you had asked me two months ago if I'd be happy with a 5:11 and 5:12 in the 1500 I'd have had a big smile on my face. See how greedy we get?! I suppose this is where other kinds of toughness come in to play: pick yourself back up, sort out the way forward....and move that way.

adrian522

I know nothing about track races or 1500m so can't really advise but sounds like you gave it everything and ran the best race you could on the night.

Not to worry, I'm sure there will be better races to come. Also 5:12 is a damn good time by the way.

Firedance

Not sure if i gave you this before but in case its any use there' a great Achilles AIS stretch in it, the others are really good too...

http://www.runnersworld.com/stretching/how-to-stretch-your-calf-muscles

well done tonight, when the dust settles you will pick yourself up and move forward, we learn from the races that don't go our way as well as the ones that do. Hope the achilles heals quickly.

RedRunner

Well done A. Hope the Achilles isn't too bad. I'm still out with mine. They're a real biatch!

Notwork Error

You don't need to be chased DG, you just need to get into the chaser mindset. I find nothing better than focused agression on the runner in front(in a competitive fashion of course) like they are stealing something from you.

The person in front of you in any race feels the same as you do when being chased, full of fear. You have to aggresive when chasing someone and focus on attacking even if it's only thinking about gaining an inch on them, They'll sense it. Once you gain that inch, you're on the front foot and each step brings you closer to breaking them.

Not thinking about the finishline but just thinking of gaining on them with every stride, There's always that little extra in there when you start to gain on someone. That's my take on it anyway!

Well done btw! There'll be other races. A 5:12 is still a big step up over the last few months as you said and there's more to come. As you say yourself, patience young grasshopper, it'll come:)

KielyUnusual

Well done DG. Nice to see that you've left the field of elite joggers and are now an elite runner .

With regard to your race, I have also had difficulty in keeping the pace up over the second lap. All of my bad races have been lost here. I always thought it was too far out to be really pushing it but I've learnt from my mistake. You've really got to up the effort here to stick with the group you're in or if necessary overtake a few people.

What I found worked was really concentrating on the second lap and just forgetting about the rest of the race. I just got it in my head that I was going to get to lap two at a certain time or under and the rest of the race would be a formality.

Get down to the GV Ryan IMC meet in July anyway and there will be pacers. They may not be going at your pace but will make it easier to judge if you have dropped off dramatically in pace.

Good to get the first one out of the way anyway and you can learn from your mistakes and push on from here.

laura_ac3

Good going A. I won't pretend to know much about these kind of races but important to remember that a short while ago it sounds like you would have taken this time if it had been offered. Great that of course you never want to rest on your laurels or settle but the rest will come with all the hard work you're putting in and if you can build on areas you identify for improvement from the race. All a learning curve! It makes those good days when it comes together even sweeter

annapr

Sorry to hear you were disappointed last night, A*. How do you feel about it now after sleeping on it? And how's the Achilles today?



*I'm still in awe of that time, but I know nothing!

Dubgal72

annapr wrote: »

Sorry to hear you were disappointed last night, A*. How do you feel about it now after sleeping on it? And how's the Achilles today?



*I'm still in awe of that time, but I know nothing!

Thanks Anna. Truthfully...Still disappointed. The Achilles is still very tender so I'm also a bit gutted that I *allowed* myself to get injured. My hips have been tight the last few days and I had a new stiffness in my left buttock (tmi? Sorry ) which is probably linked to the Achilles. I wonder if it affected my stride...clutching at straws here :rolleyes: I gambled on leaving a sports massage til after the race. I lost....
And ECOLII is away for a week :eek: How dare he?!

Dubgal72

adrian522 wrote: »

I know nothing about track races or 1500m so can't really advise but sounds like you gave it everything* and ran the best race you could on the night.

Not to worry, I'm sure there will be better races to come. Also 5:12 is a damn good time by the way.

Thanks Adrian *coulda done better the last 100m :rolleyes:

Firedance wrote: »

Not sure if i gave you this before but in case its any use there' a great Achilles AIS stretch in it, the others are really good too...

http://www.runnersworld.com/stretching/how-to-stretch-your-calf-muscles

well done tonight, when the dust settles you will pick yourself up and move forward, we learn from the races that don't go our way as well as the ones that do. Hope the achilles heals quickly.

Thanks and thanks FD, really got to incorporate a thorough AIS routine. Wonder if Ososlo is up for hire?'

RedRunner wrote: »

Well done A. Hope the Achilles isn't too bad. I'm still out with mine. They're a real biatch!

Thanks R. Tell me about it....Yeah moticed you've been quiet for a while. Bad buzz

Notwork Error wrote: »

You don't need to be chased DG, you just need to get into the chaser mindset. I find nothing better than focused agression on the runner in front(in a competitive fashion of course) like they are stealing something from you.

The person in front of you in any race feels the same as you do when being chased, full of fear. You have to aggresive when chasing someone and focus on attacking even if it's only thinking about gaining an inch on them, They'll sense it. Once you gain that inch, you're on the front foot and each step brings you closer to breaking them.

Not thinking about the finishline but just thinking of gaining on them with every stride, There's always that little extra in there when you start to gain on someone. That's my take on it anyway!

Well done btw! There'll be other races. A 5:12 is still a big step up over the last few months as you said and there's more to come. As you say yourself, patience young grasshopper, it'll come:)

Thanks NE, you're right I know. Some great mind tricks there for use next time

KielyUnusual wrote: »

Well done DG. Nice to see that you've left the field of elite joggers and are now an elite runner .

With regard to your race, I have also had difficulty in keeping the pace up over the second lap. All of my bad races have been lost here. I always thought it was too far out to be really pushing it but I've learnt from my mistake. You've really got to up the effort here to stick with the group you're in or if necessary overtake a few people.

What I found worked was really concentrating on the second lap and just forgetting about the rest of the race. I just got it in my head that I was going to get to lap two at a certain time or under and the rest of the race would be a formality.

Get down to the GV Ryan IMC meet in July anyway and there will be pacers. They may not be going at your pace but will make it easier to judge if you have dropped off dramatically in pace.

Good to get the first one out of the way anyway and you can learn from your mistakes and push on from here.

Hehe thanks KU Yep, lap 2 definitely going to be my focus next time, great advice thanks. The IMC sounds like a plan, I'll have a look now.

laura_ac3 wrote: »

Good going A. I won't pretend to know much about these kind of races but important to remember that a short while ago it sounds like you would have taken this time if it had been offered. Great that of course you never want to rest on your laurels or settle but the rest will come with all the hard work you're putting in and if you can build on areas you identify for improvement from the race. All a learning curve! It makes those good days when it comes together even sweeter

Thanks Laura, you're right, I know!

Bungy Girl

Based on my now vast experience of track races (;)), can I just say

1. That is a super time
2. It was a 'warm up' for the main event - your words
3. You will be even faster and better prepared for the main event now

Sorry to hear about the Achilles, think we could all do with a masterclass from Ososlo. Hope it's better soon.

Dubgal72

Bungy Girl wrote: »

Based on my now vast experience of track races (;)), can I just say

1. That is a super time
2. It was a 'warm up' for the main event - your words
3. You will be even faster and better prepared for the main event now

Sorry to hear about the Achilles, think we could all do with a masterclass from Ososlo. Hope it's better soon.

Thanks BG . Had a good chat with Coachy earlier and he echoed point #2. He also said...oh wait, that's point #3. And he finished by saying...pretty much point #1

Hang on.....gets to the end of a Scooby Doo ep and unmasks.... :eek: you are coachy, I knew it!!

Ososlo

Bungy Girl wrote: »

Sorry to hear about the Achilles, think we could all do with a masterclass from Ososlo. Hope it's better soon.

ha ha you couldn't afford my masterclass:) what with my overheads (dressing gown rope:D) it'd take a lot of $$$$ to put that show on the road.

I've nothing to add DG except I can't believe that 1,500m isn't on the Round Numbers Table! I was about to send you the link last night for your super fast time and saw it's not on it! should be!!!!

Oh and well done. A great warm up for the next outing! I peered in over the fence to the stadium last night where all you real runners hang out but didn't spot you. Not that I've ever met you but I've seen pics! It might have been a bit early (7ish).
Really hope that Achilles is not troubling you much now.

Dubgal72

Ososlo wrote: »

ha ha you couldn't afford my masterclass:) what with my overheads (dressing gown rope:D) it'd take a lot of $$$$ to put that show on the road.

I've nothing to add DG except I can't believe that 1,500m isn't on the Round Numbers Table! I was about to send you the link last night for your super fast time and saw it's not on it! should be!!!!

Oh and well done. A great warm up for the next outing! I peered in over the fence to the stadium last night where all you real runners hang out but didn't spot you. Not that I've ever met you but I've seen pics! It might have been a bit early (7ish).
Really hope that Achilles is not troubling you much now.

Hmmm, a Phoenix Park masterclass: a circle of internet strangers brandishing dressing gown ropes and assuming strange positions on the command of a pint-sized chief dressing-gown-rope brandisher...I love it! Where and when?? Consider me signed up!!

But seriously (actually the above bit is serious), thank you. And gutted you didn't see me! I was there at 7, jogging round the perimeter of the track Unfortunately it is still a bit tender. Hopefully just inflamed and a good sports massage tomorrow night with therapist #2 will help towards sorting it out. Coachy has a few remedies and strategies and doesn't seem overly concerned for now. Funny, I had been thinking of signing up to a S/C class for a bit of structure and this has sealed the deal.

Firedance

Dubgal72 wrote: »

Hmmm, a Phoenix Park masterclass: a circle of internet strangers brandishing dressing gown ropes and assuming strange positions on the command of a pint-sized chief dressing-gown-rope brandisher...I love it! Where and when?? Consider me signed up!!
.

+1!

aquinn

Morning,

How are you doing this morning? Ice and heat working ok?

Dubgal72

aquinn wrote: »

Morning,

How are you doing this morning? Ice and heat working ok?

Morning and Thank You! I'm a bit perplexed, near-miraculous recovery I was quite worried about this, I thought it would be a week of easy jogging if that. From hop-along Cassidy yesterday and Wednesday night to practically nothing today - ever so slight tenderness if I press really hard. Yippee! Sports massage tonight so that should help even more.

Bungy Girl

Dubgal72 wrote: »

Hang on.....gets to the end of a Scooby Doo ep and unmasks.... :eek: you are coachy, I knew it!!

And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids

Duanington

Dubgal72 wrote: »

Morning and Thank You! I'm a bit perplexed, near-miraculous recovery I was quite worried about this, I thought it would be a week of easy jogging if that. From hop-along Cassidy yesterday and Wednesday night to practically nothing today - ever so slight tenderness if I press really hard. Yippee! Sports massage tonight so that should help even more.

Good to hear that DG - just a note of caution, I had a very similar niggle 3 weeks ago and am still trying to shake it off completely, sounds like you are being sensible with it though from the get go ( which I wasn't - ran several sessions\long runs until I eventually bit the bullet this week to let it clear up fully)

Dubgal72

Duanington wrote: »

Good to hear that DG - just a note of caution, I had a very similar niggle 3 weeks ago and am still trying to shake it off completely, sounds like you are being sensible with it though from the get go ( which I wasn't - ran several sessions\long runs until I eventually bit the bullet this week to let it clear up fully)

Apart from racing on it you mean?! Thanks D. Tbh, not being able to run is my biggest nightmare so I'll take a few days now rather than risk a few weeks off further down the line :eek: *ahem* also have a race next Tuesday
Good luck with your own. You've been flying lately.

Duanington

Dubgal72 wrote: »

Apart from racing on it you mean?! Thanks D. Tbh, not being able to run is my biggest nightmare so I'll take a few days now rather than risk a few weeks off further down the line :eek: *ahem* also have a race next Tuesday
Good luck with your own. You've been flying lately.

lol - its hard to do it but what's a couple of days off in the grand scheme of things? ( I know, the "Greed" you mentioned in your report gets the better of us !)

wrstan

I presume you're not planning on running Dunshaughlin tomorrow DG?

Dubgal72

wrstan wrote: »

I presume you're not planning on running Dunshaughlin tomorrow DG?

No, definitely not B. Coachy ruled that out a few weeks ago: too long and no significant benefit for the current block of training.

Achilles update: ouchy sports massage last night. Lots of work ironing out both itbs and tfls plus nice gentle massage on the Achilles. Strongly recommended to get a foam roller for itb work. A sliotar is fine for everywhere else but my general stretching needs to be supplemented with foam rolling the itb as it is not really a stretchable piece of tissue.
I was advised to play it by ear for Tuesday and obviously nothing strenuous in the meantime.
Ventured out for a possible 30min easy jog on grass this morning but cut it short to 20. Tenderness is still there and while gentle jogging didn't aggravate it, it didn't go away either so I decided to taste my own medicine :pac: and stop while the going was good.

If I race on Tuesday it will be after getting coachy's go-ahead and will also be in my racing flats. This niggle has most likely been aggravated by recent track training, especially the 200s. Spikes push you up onto your toes...and so do sprinty 200s. I was warned :rolleyes: ....It's more a case of my Achilles simply not being used to this type of work so have been given a simple strengthening exercise which "sure you can even do while boiling the kettle"

In other news, I noticed in the graded results that an athlete who was miles - ok kilometers- ahead of me in the Leinster road 3k was only eight seconds ahead of me on Wednesday (around where I was hoping to be) so I am feeling slightly better about it all. It did however occur to me that she might be targeting the national masters 1500...:eek: In a funny way that has made me hungrier. Roar, bring it on

wrstan

Seems like sensible advice! Although sounds as if there's a big crew going from these parts everywhere :-)

Hope the recovery is swift and EZ and not too frustrating!

Dubgal72

Wed 17
Graded meet Santry 1500m, B race: 8th in 5:12.6 slightly disappointing but I'm over it (see race report)
Achilles problem/niggle before race and since

Thur 18
Rest

Fri 19
Rest and physio

Sat 20
Easy 20 mins niggle still there, significant enough not to push it.
Full strength, mobility and DS core. Back on track

Sun 21
Steady 10k incl 2x(3x100m strides) at 70% effort.
I made a conscious decision to push the pace to test the foot but kept it at the easy end of steady (7:40-8 m/m pace), all very comfortable. I'm not unhappy with it but I'm not happy either. The niggle seems to have slipped around to the inner part of my ankle, somewhere between the ankle bone and actual tendon. My massage therapist went into latest research on the fascia after me asking a question about a diagram on his wall (was trying to distract from the pain of ironing out my itb :eek: ) which of course made me wonder if part of my fascia is inflamed. (Basically we all have a complete sheath surrounding our tissues, muscles etc - a bit like the film on a chicken breast.) Leave the self-diagnosis alone missus. Hurry home ECOLII too

So a bit of a worry but at the same time not the end of the world. It is at an unfortunate enough stage in the countdown to the nationals in five weeks but I brought it on myself :rolleyes: Only one session missed so far but if I need to take more time off, I'll do it.

Weekly total 18 miles or so
Breakdown:
3 rest days
1 race
2 recovery pace runs
1 steady run

Core, strength and mobility: moving in the right direction

Great results from Dunshaughlin last night - here and my club, well done everyone! *hobbles off to scratch the racing itch*

Dubgal72

Mon 22
Rest but with full prescribed general strengthening hip and Achilles exercises plus some light pre-race core

Tues 23
Bray Runners Invitational Mile, Greystones track

AM: easy 20 mins to test Achilles. Still 'there' but didn't worsen during the run or tighten up after.
Had a chat with Coachy in the morning and he recommended icing it and massaging it a couple of times throughout the day. We discussed my approach to the race and the Achilles, essentially "you can back out at any stage".

Niggle aside, I was feeling quite positive about this race despite Aunty Flo making her appearance bang on schedule. I wanted to test a theory I had about my last few races; pacing, holiday and foul weather issues aside, something has been 'missing'.
I had stopped my alternate-month iron supplements in February or March I think. My blood tests came back 'normal' a month or so ago. Yet, something had been niggling at me.
I read an article last week re female athletes, iron and ferritin levels which reminded me what that mental niggle was. The article suggested that 'normal' levels may not be 'normal' for athletes. I happen to think that I am fairly well in tune with my body and this just resonated. Back to the Ferrograd C with me and five days in I wanted to see if any difference was to be seen. I've had this happen before and an almost instant return to form when I've resumed iron. I must dig out that second diary from back along because I am sure I had ongoing iron issues as a teen. So yes, I was eager to race tonight, but not at any cost...

PM:
I arrived in plenty of time, saw a few clubmates and had a lovely, relaxed shuffle jog warm up of 20-25 minutes. Then I registered and had a chat with coachy about my Achilles and gave him a more complete update. Like the pa, he wasn't too worried and explained it as very likely brought on by training hard on the track without enough ankle etc strength. Again he reiterated his advice that I could 'back out at any time'. I did a couple of longer strides and a few drills on the outside tarmac path and wasn't that happy about the inside of my ankle, especially on the drills but decided to hold fire on any decision until I got the spikes on the track.

I knew nearly straight away on the track that it wasn't strong enough. The first two longer strides (not up on the toes) felt strained and my stride and footfall compromised. The next two shorter ones (attempting to get up on the toes) were the deal-clencher. Sore and had to pull up after 30 metres or so. Coachy had been watching these and agreed that it was the only call to make.
We'll have a proper meeting tomorrow but can't really make any call about the nationals til ECOLII gets back. Training is going to be interrupted now, no getting away from that and we're only 4.5 weeks out. Not sure yet how 'less than 100%' I would be comfortable with going into it. Last year it was won in 4:53 and I'm still a way away from that right now. Perhaps it's way too soon for me to be thinking like this...
However my exercise in restraint has definitely paid off. My foot tightened up considerably after the warm up which reinforced 'the right call'. Feeling kinda virtuous in a pi$$ed off way
It was good anyway to watch the events of the night...even 'my' race...(won in 5:4x)

Coachy did suggest that the worst case scenario is that track season is over for this year. I'll be ok with that, seriously, because I have our club Captain's bigger picture in mind. He has mapped a very tasty schedule for 2017, the year I enter the o/45s and that, for now, is *the* goal and I will do what it takes to get there in my finest, healthiest and best one piece

Notwork Error

Good call! A rest in time saves nine;)

Mind yourself, personally, I don't come off the iron supplements at all now. If the levels dropped before, I'm pretty sure they will drop again so better to be on the safe and preventitive side. I'm not sure how safe that really is though:eek: but it sure beats fatigue.

annapr

Jeez, girl, you are sounding very philosophical... 2017?? hope we don't have to wait that long for more of your racing exploits... !! seriously though, it's good that you're taking the long view, there's no point in risking longer term damage.

Hopefully you'll get the achilles sorted soon.

Dubgal72

Notwork Error wrote: »

Good call! A rest in time saves nine;)

Mind yourself, personally, I don't come off the iron supplements at all now. If the levels dropped before, I'm pretty sure they will drop again so better to be on the safe and preventitive side. I'm not sure how safe that really is though:eek: but it sure beats fatigue.

Thanks, I know...is that my advice being chucked back at me?! :pac:
I think I do ok on one month on/one month off but it's definitely something I'll be keeping under review from now.

Thanks again, I'll be sitting tight don't worry wriggling, but sitting tight!

Dubgal72

annapr wrote: »

Jeez, girl, you are sounding very philosophical... 2017?? hope we don't have to wait that long for more of your racing exploits... !! seriously though, it's good that you're taking the long view, there's no point in risking longer term damage.

Hopefully you'll get the achilles sorted soon.

Hehe no bloody way! Nah, just might be the track nationals aren't on the cards this year. I'm just putting this little blip (I hope that's all it is!) into the wider context.

yaboya1

At least now you'll have more time for the mentored thread
I think you should post earlier than the 6:35am you managed the other day.

Bungy Girl

Sorry to hear that DG, but you're right to look at the big picture (and even bigger picture that is 2017 which sounds very exciting). Hope Ecolii fixes you up quickly and you can get back on schedule.

Dubgal72

yaboya1 wrote: »

At least now you'll have more time for the mentored thread
I think you should post earlier than the 6:35am you managed the other day.

6:35??!! Me? Can't have been. That's still the middle of the night for me ("no sprog #2, it's not getting up time, it's still the middle of the night".... )

Dubgal72

Bungy Girl wrote: »

Sorry to hear that DG, but you're right to look at the big picture (and even bigger picture that is 2017 which sounds very exciting). Hope Ecolii fixes you up quickly and you can get back on schedule.

Thanks BG. I have every faith he will. Fecker's not allowed on holidays ever again How's your niggles?

Firedance

You are very philosophical indeed DG, great that you can look towards the future, that's what makes a super club runner and I reckon good karma will cone your way - hopefully located in walkinstown very soon!!!

adrian522

Sorry to hear this, That's been giving you trouble for a while I think?

Anyway, I'm sure you'll be back before too long. Best of luck with it.

laura_ac3

I hope you get sorted quickly and are back on form as soon as possible. As you said to me recently though, keep the focus on the bigger picture and some of the longer term goals you have, this is just a bump on the way to those.

dintbo

Good call on not running, respect on the long term planning!!

Bungy Girl

Dubgal72 wrote: »

Thanks BG. I have every faith he will. Fecker's not allowed on holidays ever again How's your niggles?

All good thanks, back doing some easy miles, but may still join the queue of bruised and battered runners outside Ecolii's door before I start ramping up mileage. Don't forget to hide his passport when you're there

Dubgal72

Firedance wrote: »

You are very philosophical indeed DG, great that you can look towards the future, that's what makes a super club runner and I reckon good karma will cone your way - hopefully located in walkinstown very soon!!!

Aw thanks FD! In a way, it's good that this has happened earlier in my reborn running days. A timely reminder that the body is older and mortal

adrian522 wrote: »

Sorry to hear this, That's been giving you trouble for a while I think?

Anyway, I'm sure you'll be back before too long. Best of luck with it.

Thanks Adrian. Yeah a quick flick back through my log tells me it has. Looks like the 200s tipped it over the edge. Hopefully not totally. I don't feel anything is torn. Fingers crossed!

laura_ac3 wrote: »

I hope you get sorted quickly and are back on form as soon as possible. As you said to me recently though, keep the focus on the bigger picture and some of the longer term goals you have, this is just a bump on the way to those.

Thanks Laura and yes, I want to be able to run for years yet so will do what it takes....

dintbo wrote: »

Good call on not running, respect on the long term planning!!

Thanks dintbo. The club captain gave me that advice a while back and it works really well when something like this happens. It's all too easy to get short-focus tunnel vision as runners....

Bungy Girl wrote: »

All good thanks, back doing some easy miles, but may still join the queue of bruised and battered runners outside Ecolii's door before I start ramping up mileage. Don't forget to hide his passport when you're there

Genius!
Ah good, yeah take it easy in the meantime...not bad timing really, at the start of base training...

Dubgal72

So it's confirmed. Had a good long meeting with coachy this afternoon and the short term plans have been considerably revised:

track season is over, starting today

No running for a week, starting today

Rehab begins, starting today

The rest of my life begins...starting....;)

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We both agreed on all the above. It's quite simple really, long term gains are the priority. The year so far has, overall, been more than satisfying. This time a year ago I was a completely different runner. We gambled, experimented and it didn't pay off. The rehab and strengthening I do between now and next year will.

By the end of July, if I do as I'm told , I'll be ready to start building for xc season. Yes, I'm a little sad I won't compete in the nationals but there'll be other years. I'd rather compete in full health and fitness and do it justice.




*pool running starts Friday :eek: takin a splash in the dark side

aquinn

Are you ok? Full rest then for the week? Then ok for base building but no racing until Winter? What's the diagnosis?
Great you can also start mentoring TbL on pool running.

adrian522

So straight from track season to XC season? You are missing the entire DCM season there somewhere!

Bungy Girl

Dubgal72 wrote: »

It's quite simple really, long term gains are the priority. The year so far has, overall, been more than satisfying. This time a year ago I was a completely different runner. We gambled, experimented and it didn't pay off. The rehab and strengthening I do between now and next year will.

Jeez, you'll be unstoppable then . You've achieved so much in a very short space of time already. Sounds like you're in very good (and sensible!) hands with your coach. I'd say Fionnuala Britton is bricking it for the XC season .

Dubgal72

aquinn wrote: »

Are you ok? Full rest then for the week? Then ok for base building but no racing until Winter? What's the diagnosis?
Great you can also start mentoring TbL on pool running.

Yes, well not complete rest: I have two simple strengthening exercises to do plus pool swimming and easy cycling if I want.
I'm not too sure of the exact schedule yet from July on but two other clubmates are preparing for xc as well and another for the marathon so our xc and marathon schedules will overlap once or twice a week. The two xc runners are coming up to a season's break anyway so my timing is good: if I hadn't taken the track experiment this year, I'd be on a break around now anyway. Not too sure about racing prior to xc. I had pencilled in the Lakes 10k in August. Doubt I'll be in full racing shape then but it's one I'd like to do. We'll see.
Yes, I'll have to get THL more streamlined for the pool. Perhaps I could hold his hand while he lies on the waxing table It's all about the glide....:D

adrian522 wrote: »

So straight from track season to XC season? You are missing the entire DCM season there somewhere!

Ahem, yes Just a very interested observer this year....

Bungy Girl wrote: »

Jeez, you'll be unstoppable then . You've achieved so much in a very short space of time already. Sounds like you're in very good (and sensible!) hands with your coach. I'd say Fionnuala Britton is bricking it for the XC season .

Haha no need, I'm already approaching the European xc scheduling committee with the necessary brown envelopes She'll be nowhere near Wicklow this December

Bungy Girl

Dubgal72 wrote: »

I had pencilled in the Lakes 10k in August.

It's September (5th), so even more time to prepare. And all the cool kids are doing it. :cool:

Firedance

Bungy Girl wrote: »

It's September (5th), so even more time to prepare. And all the cool kids are doing it. :cool:

yes they are! :cool: pencil it back in..