The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

CIP4

seantobin43 wrote: »

R line does actually have keyless start, all mk8 golf models have push button start as standard. The style gets a upgraded version so you can unlock it with you're phone.

Really the r-line spec seems a better option with looks inside and out, the seats are now really racey looking with the locked headrests. Full black interior roof and etc. The annoying thing is the r-line is only getting standard halogen headlights "with led drls" so it's a extra €1077 to get the led plus headlights, and to add matrix IQ lights its another €1000 on top of that. 17" boring looking alloys as standard but to upgrade to 18" bergamo is €536. R-line only is getting the option for the Lapiz blue Metallic (mk7 golf r colour)

Lowered sports suspension is on it standard the same as what the GTI will get. I've noticed too from looking up tons of videos on YouTube that the R-line GTI GTD GTE and R get a different steering wheel with shiny touch sensitive buttons and heated steering wheel is standard on the these models

On the style the plus led headlights are standard and to get IQ its something like €714 with is great value really for what you get.

I thought I read somewhere all the Mk8 Golfs were coming with LED front lights as standard even the comfort entry model ?

seantobin43

The entry model is actually called the golf, then the comfort is the next model up.

Yeah so did I but i saw a video on YouTube and it was the golf life which is model up from the comfort and that had halogen bulbs, unless they have led bulbs inside but it has them standard big mirror reflector, it didn't have the magnifying glass you see in proper led headlights like the MK7.5 GTI

Edit:
Here's the video skip to 3:20
https://youtu.be/QdnbEtbnnoI

L-M

LEDS are standard across the range on the MK8.

Also there’s a big difference between keyless start and keyless entry. The prior being absolutely pointless without the latter.

L-M

Product guide attached below.

L-M

L-M wrote: »

LEDS are standard across the range on the MK8.

Also there’s a big difference between keyless start and keyless entry. The prior being absolutely pointless without the latter.

This is an option.........

Led Headlights With Dynamic Headlight Range
RRP € 1,077.17RRP € 1,077.17 ,
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Front fog lamp, cornering and poor weather light
—
LED headlamps with lens

seantobin43

And if you go onto Volkswagen website and configure the life or the rline. Then look in the gallery and scroll the images, you'll clearly see when the option is selected and turned off

DaveyDave

L-M wrote: »

LEDS are standard across the range on the MK8.

Also there’s a big difference between keyless start and keyless entry. The prior being absolutely pointless without the latter.

I'd take keyless start over nothing. Every time I get into my mam's car putting the key in the ignition is a bigger pain than using the button to unlock. Of course full keyless is better but both functions are useful in their own way.

DaveyDave

DaveyDave wrote: »

I'd take keyless start over nothing...........

Indeed, the ole lad has keyless start, I've keyless nothing.
Keyless start is a nice feature once there's somewhere handy to throw the keys.

bbeeforsalmon

vintagevrs wrote: »

Looks well, and it usually goes this way. Initial impressions are terrible the it grows and warms to you.

Looks like seats might be a bit more special too but hard to tell, and that may be just for the testing too. Was something they missed with the Mk7 I think.

Could this be the rumored R400???
Wheels maybe 20” and ride height looks very low. One of the pics seems to have the front badge taped over - looks longer than R. Just saying 🀔.

ILikeBoats

I'd say he's just baitin' it around the bend so being pushed down low

dastardly00

bbeeforsalmon wrote: »

Could this be the rumored R400???
Wheels maybe 20” and ride height looks very low. One of the pics seems to have the front badge taped over - looks longer than R. Just saying 🀔.

I was wondering that myself but I think it's just the camber of the road

L-M

Augeo wrote: »

This is an option.........

Led Headlights With Dynamic Headlight Range
RRP € 1,077.17RRP € 1,077.17 ,
—
Front fog lamp, cornering and poor weather light
—
LED headlamps with lens

Where are you seeing that?

That’s not an option.

The only LED light option on the MK8 is to Upgrade the style model to IQ matrix lights at 721.

Leds are standard

Pacifico

The R above does look a lot better but it still looks like someone sat on the front of it!

everlast75

Not many of these around?

http://www.adverts.ie/20169393

Mickiemcfist

everlast75 wrote: »

Not many of these around?

http://www.adverts.ie/20169393

He has got to be joking at that price

Toyotafanboi

Dont think the price is too mad.

Dealers still asking €10k for a 2012 diesel, that one does look well spec'd, would €14 not be about right for it?

That's about the latest Mk6 GTi you'll get and the cheapest early Mk7's are still asking €17k+.

Low KMs yet no NCT.
Could be a good one but there's a smell of baseball cap etc off the add ✌🚬

Toyotafanboi

Yeah, all photos taken between 45 and 70 degree angles.

Mk5 GTi in the background too though, could be enthusiast.

bazz26

15.5k seems mad money for a 2012 Mk6 GTi when for another 4.5k you can have this nice Mk7 example that's 3 years younger and with a warranty:

https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2519219&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D93%26o%5B%5D%3D812%26f%3D1%26nn%3D12%26yn%3D2014%26yx%3D2015%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

I'm sure there is wiggle room in that price too.

Toyotafanboi

I agree with the point, but it is €4k more and that's a few quid to anybody, I'd say there's more haggling in the private sale than the dealer sale too. Sure you could always find something nicer with an extra 4 or 5 grand on the table.

bazz26

Well I wouldn't see it that just because it's 4k cheaper it's better value, it's also 3 years older, a generation older too and there is no warranty. I'm just pointing out what better value you can actually get given the difference. In the big scheme of things, spending 4k to come up to one 3 years younger and a dealer warranty is better value to someone who might be able to stretch. To someone who cannot stretch and if it were me I'd just keep looking. I know Mk6 GTis are rare but I just think that sort of money on an 8 year old one with no come back is not good value.

I would also follow the assumption that if a private seller has their car advertised at what is an unrealistic high price to everyone but themselves then they probably won't accept a huge amount less for it, enthusiast owners can be the worst for this. They will tell you it's worth every penny and would rather keep it than let it go cheap.

Just my 2c of course.

Mickiemcfist

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Dont think the price is too mad.

Dealers still asking €10k for a 2012 diesel, that one does look well spec'd, would €14 not be about right for it?

That's about the latest Mk6 GTi you'll get and the cheapest early Mk7's are still asking €17k+.

Yea it was more the lack of nct, the fact that the drivers door paint doesn't match & it's a crap ad.

hooch-85

Its an Edition 35 so worth a few quid more than a regular GTi. Id say its worth around 13k.

Killinator

hooch-85 wrote: »

Its an Edition 35 so worth a few quid more than a regular GTi. Id say its worth around 13k.

Yeah, the Edition models are well sought after amongst VW enthusiasts and can take in a couple of extra thousand due to rarity

Lleyn elec

What price range should I be budgeting for a 2013-2014 GTD when the Covid restriction ends of buying in Ireland? How is the spec on a typical 2013 model compared to a 2015?
I seen some with halogen lights.
I’d need to go to a late 15 if importing from the UK.

hooch-85

Prices seem a bit all over the place, lots of higher mileage ones around. I traded mine in before Christmas, it was a nicely specced and very well minded 2015 model with 82k miles and I was allowed €17k for it at an independent dealer. A main dealer only offered me €13k for it a few weeks previous. I imagine €15-16k would get you a nice 2015 one now if you import as VRT is cheap on them

drunkmonkey

Negative oil prices at the moment and no huge spike in prices on the futures market would make an R or GTI cheaper to run than a diesel was a few weeks ago, the oil producers might even use this as an opportunity to kill off EV's they were always going to drop oil prices when EV's became a threat anyway.

un5byh7sqpd2x0

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Negative oil prices at the moment and no huge spike in prices on the futures market would make an R or GTI cheaper to run than a diesel was a few weeks ago, the oil producers might even use this as an opportunity to kill off EV's they were always going to drop oil prices when EV's became a threat anyway.

Those negative oil prices (for the US market) were only temporary. They'll be around $20 a barrel today. Prices that effect the pirce at the pumps here are pretty static and haven't changed much in the past month.

maddness

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Negative oil prices at the moment and no huge spike in prices on the futures market would make an R or GTI cheaper to run than a diesel was a few weeks ago, the oil producers might even use this as an opportunity to kill off EV's they were always going to drop oil prices when EV's became a threat anyway.

It’s not going to last unfortunately, as soon as we are all back driving the price will soon go back up.

UnknownSpecies

I'm looking to get on board the GTD train. My heart is broken but due to a new job and a long commute several times a week, I need to sell my petrol Focus ST for something more economical. The Mk7 GTD seems to be a good choice for performance without crying at the pumps every week.

Does anyone have some insights on how good the GTD is on fuel? My average with the ST with motorway driving is 10L/100km or 28mpg, so I'd want to be getting a fair improvement on that.

Is there anything I need to look out for between model years ie. avoid 2014, go for 2015 etc? Do they all come with roughly the same extras or is there anything that I should absolutely hold out for?

UnknownSpecies

UnknownSpecies wrote: »

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Does anyone have some insights on how good the GTD is on fuel? My average with the ST with motorway driving is 10L/100km or 28mpg, so I'd want to be getting a fair improvement on that.............

I've no experience of a GTD but I drove an Octavia VRS Combi diesel around Austria, a week of pootling in and out from hotel to a factory and a 250km return trip to near Italian border largely on motorway returned 49mpg......no really high speed stuff.

I'd a Golf GTi for a Munich to Stuttgart run and that did 28mpg ...... lots of that was over 130mph.

hooch-85

UnknownSpecies wrote: »

I'm looking to get on board the GTD train. My heart is broken but due to a new job and a long commute several times a week, I need to sell my petrol Focus ST for something more economical. The Mk7 GTD seems to be a good choice for performance without crying at the pumps every week.

Does anyone have some insights on how good the GTD is on fuel? My average with the ST with motorway driving is 10L/100km or 28mpg, so I'd want to be getting a fair improvement on that.

Is there anything I need to look out for between model years ie. avoid 2014, go for 2015 etc? Do they all come with roughly the same extras or is there anything that I should absolutely hold out for?

What's sort of mileage are you doing annually? You'll average about 45-48mpg in a GTD from my experience. I was similar to you, went from a Fiesta ST to a GTD, kept it 18 months and traded it for a Golf R. I think the price difference you pay at the pumps is worth, reasonably fast diesels are fine but they will bore you eventually. They also depreciate a lot more than petrols.

UnknownSpecies

I was in the perfect position for a thirsty(ish) petrol, doing roughly only 15,000km over the past 2 years I've owned it. My new commute is around 240km round trip 2-3 times per week, so in total I'm estimating 25-30,000km yearly. I think 45-48mpg would be pretty acceptable. I know I could buy something even more economical but I'll miss the performance too much. I just have to accept some boredom until I manage to swing 100% remote working in my new place

Casati

UnknownSpecies wrote: »

I was in the perfect position for a thirsty(ish) petrol, doing roughly only 15,000km over the past 2 years I've owned it. My new commute is around 240km round trip 2-3 times per week, so in total I'm estimating 25-30,000km yearly. I think 45-48mpg would be pretty acceptable. I know I could buy something even more economical but I'll miss the performance too much. I just have to accept some boredom until I manage to swing 100% remote working in my new place

Do you need to trade in? If not would you consider a GTE - it’s not a GTI or Focus ST maybe a better compromise than a GTD. good value on them importing as VRT is very low

User1998

Casati wrote: »

Do you need to trade in? If not would you consider a GTE - it’s not a GTI or Focus ST maybe a better compromise than a GTD. good value on them importing as VRT is very low

I have a GTE and would only recommend one to someone doing short trips, no point getting one if your doing long motorway journeys like he is. GTE has 205 bhp but its a lot heavier so its actually slightly slower than the GTD. They are also more expensive to buy and would cost more to run than a GTD if your doing mostly motorway commutes.

Casati

User1998 wrote: »

I have a GTE and would only recommend one to someone doing short trips, no point getting one if your doing long motorway journeys like he is. GTE has 205 bhp but its a lot heavier so its actually slightly slower than the GTD. They are also more expensive to buy and would cost more to run than a GTD if your doing mostly motorway commutes.

I thought they were still a lot better than a GTI on the motorway as they are a hybrid? I know they won’t beat the diesel but wouldn’t they be a decent compromise? If the performance is actually less than the GTD then it might be too much of a jump from an ST

User1998

Yeah definitely better economy than a GTI, I think I get 45 mpg on the motorway. The petrol tank in them is tiny tho and the motorway is the last place you want a hybrid, it’s basically just a heavy 1.4 tsi, the battery doesn’t do much at motorway speeds, its in town when it works well as the engine only kicks in when you accelerate hard. (Or stays off completely if you want full E mode).

GTD is meant to be a lot better in the bends as well with it being lighter but that’s just from reading several reviews and comparisons before buying the car, I have no actual experience of a GTD. And when I say slower I think it’s something like 0.1 or 0.2 seconds slower to 100 than the GTD so negligible really

UnknownSpecies

I'd prefer to go the trade in route yes. Have no money on the car and would like to hand over as little as possible in the swap. Not against the GTE at all but as User1998 says, it probably isn't the best option for motorway driving. I'm still open to other cars but so far all my research has brought me back to the GTD.

I see a 141 example on donedeal with an 8" touch display. Could this be OEM?

JoeA3

UnknownSpecies wrote: »

I'd prefer to go the trade in route yes. Have no money on the car and would like to hand over as little as possible in the swap. Not against the GTE at all but as User1998 says, it probably isn't the best option for motorway driving. I'm still open to other cars but so far all my research has brought me back to the GTD.

I see a 141 example on donedeal with an 8" touch display. Could this be OEM?

Post a link to it.

Irish cars before late 2014/early 2015 were poorly spec'd as standard. You might be lucky and find a relatively rare one that was spec'd up from new. Plus the market is flooded with UK imports and those cars have a generally OK spec relative to early Irish cars.

hooch-85

What model/year ST do you have?

UnknownSpecies

This is the one here. Extras seem pretty decent. Would rather leather, but the tartan cloth looks OK to me too. https://www.donedeal.ie/adview/view/23787986

UnknownSpecies

hooch-85 wrote: »

What model/year ST do you have?

2013 pre-facelift. It's an ST3 with city pack, drivers assistance pack, reversing camera, cruise control etc. Has every ST extra available apart from style pack.

hooch-85

That's upgraded pro nav unit. Its OEM, have it in my R. Mileage is pretty high on that. This is one of tge best specced ones ive seen. Original irish car too.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/vw-golf-mk7-gtd/24620942

UnknownSpecies

hooch-85 wrote: »

That's upgraded pro nav unit. Its OEM, have it in my R. Mileage is pretty high on that. This is one of tge best specced ones ive seen. Original irish car too.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/vw-golf-mk7-gtd/24620942

Looks very well specced. Any concerns with a model from back in 2013? Would that have been one of the first batch of mk7s sold?

I'm fairly stuck on a trade-in at the moment though.

JoeA3

UnknownSpecies wrote: »

This is the one here. Extras seem pretty decent. Would rather leather, but the tartan cloth looks OK to me too. https://www.donedeal.ie/adview/view/23787986

Nice spec on it, pano roof, bigger Nav and Dynaudio - all big ticket extras when it was new.

Its a UK car originally for sure though.

drunkmonkey

A 7.5 GTI will knock out 40mpg on a long spin as long as your not rallying it.
How long will it take to see the benefit of the fuel saving after selling the RS, can you tune it to help economy a bit.

L-M

UK car alright, condition alert against it also.

UnknownSpecies

I've only an ST so they should be similar value. I hope I wouldn't be handing much cash over. I've estimated between tax and fuel I'll be saving around €1300 a year on my commute alone, so makes it worth a change. I bought my ST with high enough mileage (120k km on it now) so if I start using it for a long commute it won't be long before it's worth far less.

What's a condition alert?

L-M

Could be anything from a write off to a flood etc etc

Very few dealers will take “little cash” when you’re trying to trade in something of what you think is similar value. You’re going to be better off trying to sell yours privately first

Similar value trade in could mean 3 to 4k plus cost to change.