The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

Wailin

maddness wrote: »

63 grand or 70 grand is insanity for a 300bhp golf R rival.

It's not really a golf r rival though in fairness. 390bhp, it's more in the class of the m2 comp and rs3 bracket.

Edit: Be interesting to see what the new R retails for.

My bad, I was talking about the A45! You're correct madness.

hooch-85

Wailin wrote: »

It's not really a golf r rival though in fairness. 390bhp, it's more in the class of the m2 comp and rs3 bracket.

Pistonheads did a comparison review lately and still said the R is a better all rounder even though it's now 6 years old

https://youtu.be/OCW72hI_g8g

Wailin

hooch-85 wrote: »

Pistonheads did a comparison review lately and still said the R is a better all rounder even though it's now 6 years old

https://youtu.be/OCW72hI_g8g

Yeah I wrongly assumed it was the a45 being compared not the a35! Specsavers need to open soon...

maddness

Wailin wrote: »

It's not really a golf r rival though in fairness. 390bhp, it's more in the class of the m2 comp and rs3 bracket.

Edit: Be interesting to see what the new R retails for.

My bad, I was talking about the A45! You're correct madness.

I think I saw an A45 for sale for close to 90 grand!!!

Wailin

maddness wrote: »

I think I saw an A45 for sale for close to 90 grand!!!

Lol, 63-70k sounds like a bargain!

Wailin

A35 for 78k...

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-a-class-a35-amg-4matic-premium/24199840

SaintsYB

Frederick Yellow Headhunter wrote: »

You could add 10% to any of the listed cars above so for exactly the same reason.

You're absolutely right about that. However, a Mk7.5 R was far better equipped as standard than the A35. The R had 19" wheels as standard (the A35 comes with awful 18" ones) and far better screens as standard too and they're the first things I'd want to up upgrade if I was buying one.

maddness wrote: »

63 grand or 70 grand is insanity for a 300bhp golf R rival.

I couldn't justify it. You'd buy a lot of petrol and modifications for that extra cost.

Muppet Man

Wailin wrote: »

A35 for 78k...

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-a-class-a35-amg-4matic-premium/24199840

Surprisingly - that’s not the most expensive 2 liter petrol car for sale in Ireland

There’s a 1 year old f type convertible jag for 84950.

https://m.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2310205&r=s.php%3Ff%3D1%26nx%3D12%26nn%3D12%26g%3D0

mk7r

bazz26 wrote: »

I'd say resale values of Mk7 and 7.5 GTis will stay strong if they don't sell many of the Mk8s. In saying that once you see a few on the road in the flesh they will probably grow on people.

I would agree, the MK8 is the same underneath as the MK7, just a continuation of the MQB platform and with the price and questionable looks and wheel choices it's very good for Mk7 owners.

Neilw

mk7r wrote: »

I would agree, the MK8 is the same underneath as the MK7, just a continuation of the MQB platform and with the price and questionable looks and wheel choices it's very good for Mk7 owners.

I can't see the value of anything staying high, there was an article posted in an Irish paper that said 75% of owners on PCP had taken a payment break due to covid.
If these people default there will be a lot of cars for sale.

Then there's the UK who are worse again with thousands of R's and Gti's leased and on PCP, if these come on the market prices will drop like a stone.

drunkmonkey

I'd say your right, Southampton is meant to be full of new unsold cars. I'd say they'll get creative with finance, 50% pcp buy back over 48mts, 25% down payment, 1.9% finance. You'd be in the new GTI for €399pm.

carsfan2

Neilw wrote: »

I can't see the value of anything staying high, there was an article posted in an Irish paper that said 75% of owners on PCP had taken a payment break due to covid.
If these people default there will be a lot of cars for sale.

Then there's the UK who are worse again with thousands of R's and Gti's leased and on PCP, if these come on the market prices will drop like a stone.

75% of people in Ireland?
Seems very high figure.

eljono

Saw this pic on Instagram, first shot of the Mk8 GTI I've seen where it looks good.

carsfan2

carsfan2 wrote: »

75% of people in Ireland?
Seems very high figure.

3 weeks ago BMW & VAG said approx 20%.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/motorists-offered-payment-holidays-on-pcp-financing-agreements-1.4233559%3fmode=amp

Approx 50,000 mortgages availing of the mortgage break iirc.

maddness

eljono wrote: »

Saw this pic on Instagram, first shot of the Mk8 GTI I've seen where it looks good.

That looks fantastic

drunkmonkey

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I'd say your right, Southampton is meant to be full of new unsold cars. I'd say they'll get creative with finance, 50% pcp buy back over 48mts, 25% down payment, 1.9% finance. You'd be in the new GTI for €399pm.

4 year PCP deals with manufacturer deposit contributions like in the UK would tempt folk with a few quid to spend alright.

GFMV would have to be not much less then current 3 year deals but folk would have no equity expectations.

Might be interesting enough amongst all the bad news that's likely to be the the fore over the coming years with the various fallouts of the pandemic.

kooga

Interview with vw Uk head in today’s telegraph who made some good points

We won’t be building cars for which there is no demand
There are a lot of cars with both the importer and dealers
Plus Wolfsburg was only producing at 10% capacity at the start of May with the aim of reaching 40% - didn’t give a timeframe.
It’s the sane for all manufacturers.

On the aesthetics of the golf gti on the outside I’m ok with it’s the interior I’m struggling with - too clean and minimalist.

They'll need to incentivise purchases to create demand. Car manufacturers who don't manufacture cars won't last too long.

drunkmonkey

kooga wrote: »

On the aesthetics of the golf gti on the outside I’m ok with it’s the interior I’m struggling with - too clean and minimalist.

All those touch controls are over kill, it's a downgrade on a 7.5 interior and it's not really adding anything new, from what I've seen it stays that red color with the icons, it's terrible looking. I don't think you can turn it off either.
Everything is gone touch, no need for it, it's adding complication.

DaveyDave

I suppose at least they haven't gone full touchscreen controls and have touch climate controls under the screen. The downside is I'm fairly certain the passenger heated seat control is on the driver side...

Can't beat physical controls though. They could have used the smaller controls like in the Polo.

PaulRyan97

The new Audi A3 gets a dramatic interior upgrade and it manages to keep physical buttons for your most commonly used controls. Way nicer than the mk8 interior.

Marcusm

Augeo wrote: »

3 weeks ago BMW & VAG said approx 20%.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/motorists-offered-payment-holidays-on-pcp-financing-agreements-1.4233559%3fmode=amp

Approx 50,000 mortgages availing of the mortgage break iirc.

That might be correct; AIB/BOI disclosed 9-12%.

Marcusm

Wailin wrote: »

A35 for 78k...

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-a-class-a35-amg-4matic-premium/24199840

And on DoneDeal!

drunkmonkey

Tidy looking mk2 16 valve, https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mk2-golf-gti-16v-3dr/24751760

Neilw

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Tidy looking mk2 16 valve, https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mk2-golf-gti-16v-3dr/24751760

Not a bad looking car, mostly original too which is nice.

carsfan2

PaulRyan97 wrote: »

The new Audi A3 gets a dramatic interior upgrade and it manages to keep physical buttons for your most commonly used controls. Way nicer than the mk8 interior.

That interior is very nice.
I guess at this stage touch screens are probably cheaper to produce than physical buttons and they probably do impress some punters.
Personally I hate them in cars.

bs2014

Just wondering how much I'd get for my GTD be worth (not RRP). Half notion of seeing what deals I could flip into on a nearly new car.

16 white GTD manual 5dr 86000km

Thanks

bazz26

VW seem to be persisting with making the Golf estate including a R version:

carsfan2

bs2014 wrote: »

Just wondering how much I'd get for my GTD be worth (not RRP). Half notion of seeing what deals I could flip into on a nearly new car.

16 white GTD manual 5dr 86000km

Thanks

20k trade in price?
Anywhere between 18 and 22 depending on what margin they have on what you are buying?
L-M is a VW sales man I think he would give you a good idea.

bs2014

carsfan2 wrote: »

20k trade in price?
Anywhere between 18 and 22 depending on what margin they have on what you are buying?
L-M is a VW sales man I think he would give you a good idea.

Thanks, I prefer to get an ideal of net net pricing....cuz often garages offer you say 20k but in reality your only really getting 18k cuz the 20k is inflated.

carsfan2

carsfan2 wrote: »

That interior is very nice.
I guess at this stage touch screens are probably cheaper to produce than physical buttons and they probably do impress some punters.
Personally I hate them in cars.

I think heating controls are the only think that don’t work well on a touch screen. I have to say a car would look very boring and bland inside nowadays without a large touchscreen entertainment system.

hooch-85

bs2014 wrote: »

Thanks, I prefer to get an ideal of net net pricing....cuz often garages offer you say 20k but in reality your only really getting 18k cuz the 20k is inflated.

I got 17k for mine in December, '151 84k miles, i think around 130kms. It was well specced and in great condition. Be prepared to be low balled from main dealers though, i got an offer of €13.5k from a local dealership a couple of weeks before.

maddness

bazz26 wrote: »

VW seem to be persisting with making the Golf estate including a R version:

Ugly as sin but they sell bucket loads on the continent.

bazz26

The new Leon and Octavia wagons are better looking.

bazz26

bs2014 wrote: »

Thanks, I prefer to get an ideal of net net pricing....cuz often garages offer you say 20k but in reality your only really getting 18k cuz the 20k is inflated.

The only true figure that matters is how much they want with your car to trade up.

hooch-85

I agree. I was happy with the cost to change at the time and values on the R seem to be holding well since. I won't be changing it any time soon anyway.

Rmgblue

New to this thread but need some help in deciding. I think iv decided on purchasing a golf with pcp at 0% interest. My car is valued at 6250 (garage a) in one and 6500 (garage b) in another.
Garage A was pro diesel - he quoted me on a R Line Golf with 18inch alloys, metalic paint and winter pack.
Garge B was pro petrol - he quoted me on a Style Golf 1.5l 150b. Same paint, alloys, winter pack and privacy tint on rear windows.
Both same price give or take.
Garage A wants 3.5g add on
Garage B wants 2g add on
I just want to know... When repayments will be the same what you would go for. What are your thoughts on petrol v diesel?

bs2014

hooch-85 wrote: »

I got 17k for mine in December, '151 84k miles, i think around 130kms. It was well specced and in great condition. Be prepared to be low balled from main dealers though, i got an offer of €13.5k from a local dealership a couple of weeks before.

Id be very happy with that price in 6 months time lol But at 17k did u change up to an Irish car that is 3k dearer than an import. As quoted coat to change is most important thing but ideally I always like to know how much my car is standing the garage and how much the car I'm buying then stands me. Oh ive had that local low ball stunt done on my last car and tbh turned me off the dealer considering they were the ones I bought my last car and serviced it with

JoeA3

Oh dear... the Golf Estate remains a very ugly duckling. It's odd because SEAT seem to manage to make effectively the same car reasonably attractive.

Ionised

Nice to see Cupras adhering to social distancing guidelines.



FYI - I'm the one who managed to park between the lines

bs2014

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

The coolant itself contains silica, the coolant in most new VAG stuff has no service interval, it's "for life" stuff. The silica is there to slow down the corrosion of the aluminium components in the system and the block itself. The problem that VW see is that the silica in the coolant can deteriorate and loose it's effectiveness thus allowing corrosion to happen in the system, which isn't ideal in a sealed for life system. The solution was to add an additional pouch of silica in the expansion tank that the coolant can "feed" from over the systems lifetime.

The problem is, the pouch is **** and breaks down, the silica gets out, gets all mushed up in the system and turns the coolant to sludge.

You can remove the silica bag yourself with a long nose pliers, you can see it as soon as you take the cap off. What's better (and easier) is to buy a new expansion tank and remove the dry bag, then swap it out for your old tank because if the bag in your system is brittle and you burst it on the way out, then you're ****ed anyway. No issue taking the bag out once you commit to a coolant change once every 5 years/ 100k kms like the older models.

**Bringing up an old post** My GTD going in for timing belt/water pump. I've suggested to the dealer about changing the header tank to a silicabagless one. (I had the coolant contamination on my MK3 Leon) so once bitten twice shy.

-Do you think there could already be contaminants built up in the coolant over time. The dealer wasnt convinced my Seat bag actually burst and a few people have said it could be sediment building up inside the radiator over time. A VW head office technican told me at the time it could be a bad batch coolant from the factory. The bottom line is nobody seems to know and its a pain in the hole whatever you look at it.

My main Q is: Its prob the best time to switch to a silicabagless header tank during the timing belt coolant change. It may not prevent 100% of the coolant problems but it will at least prevent the bag bursting. I won't have the car for another 5 yrs/100km most likely wont be changign the coolant again

Lleyn elec

Has anyone ever had any problems with panoramic roofs in a GTD? Seen some differing opinions on them online.

hooch-85

Nice looking Cupra 280 DSG
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/seat-leon-cupra-2-0-tsi-280-bhp-dsg/24863938

eljono

Lleyn elec wrote: »

Has anyone ever had any problems with panoramic roofs in a GTD? Seen some differing opinions on them online.

My 2016 GTI has a pan roof and zero issues thankfully.

drunkmonkey

Rmgblue wrote: »

New to this thread but need some help in deciding. I think iv decided on purchasing a golf with pcp at 0% interest. My car is valued at 6250 (garage a) in one and 6500 (garage b) in another.
Garage A was pro diesel - he quoted me on a R Line Golf with 18inch alloys, metalic paint and winter pack.
Garge B was pro petrol - he quoted me on a Style Golf 1.5l 150b. Same paint, alloys, winter pack and privacy tint on rear windows.
Both same price give or take.
Garage A wants 3.5g add on
Garage B wants 2g add on
I just want to know... When repayments will be the same what you would go for. What are your thoughts on petrol v diesel?

It's the Golf GTI/R thread so the recommendation would be none of the above get a GTI or R instead.
What ever you don't get an R line, it's a mutant that should be banned. If you like the R line get an R so you won't be embarrassed if any of us pull up beside you.

JoeA3

Lleyn elec wrote: »

Has anyone ever had any problems with panoramic roofs in a GTD? Seen some differing opinions on them online.

The usual sunroof niggles, squeaks and rattles mainly, but nothing too out of the ordinary.

Actually I vaguely recall someone on here who had to have the whole glass panel replaced. Can't remember the reason now though.

drunkmonkey

Is this Tossys? Can see it on donedeal only Facebook..

Stage 3, 500bhp, MK7.5 R

https://m.facebook.com/groups/294178964055732?view=permalink&id=1727770577363223

tossy

Not mine, mines a 7 and only stage 2.

Lleyn elec

JoeA3 wrote: »

The usual sunroof niggles, squeaks and rattles mainly, but nothing too out of the ordinary.

Actually I vaguely recall someone on here who had to have the whole glass panel replaced. Can't remember the reason now though.

Problems could be down to lack of maintenance so, not cleaning drains etc. I think a pan roof makes the car feel extra special!

drunkmonkey

OSI wrote: »

Good luck to whatever poor bastard buys that car.

Do you know it, looks like he hasn't had it long. George should know it looks like they done the servicing...
Is it a 2/3 second car...can't be miles off it..