Belmond Grand Hibernian

Jamie2k9

loyatemu wrote: »

Wexford Town's nice enough, some good restaurants. The Irish National Heritage Park and Johnstown Castle are nearby. What sort of things do they do in other locations?

They spend 7-8 hours in most spots and generally do 2 or 3 activities/tours of some sort.

Del.Monte

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Besides the views on the train, what's there to see in Wexford/Rosslare and will they overnight it in Dublin?

Johnstown Castle http://www.irishagrimuseum.ie/johnstown-castle-gardens/ is close to Wexford Town; as is Kilmokea House & Gardens http://www.kilmokea.com and the beach at Ballinesker where the opening scenes of "Saving Private Ryan" were shot - sorry!



There's also lashings of hotel rooms and pubs - although they will have to be bussed to Enniscorthy to find the best ones.

Itssoeasy

With the situation with bus eireann possibly spreading into Irish rail, how could this impact on this service ?

Del.Monte

Whatever about contagion from the BE dispute which is very likely, IE's own industrial relations problems are coming anyway - big time. Belmond will be bunched as will other customers such as the few surviving freight flows. Bad times ahead.

loyatemu

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

They spend 7-8 hours in most spots and generally do 2 or 3 activities/tours of some sort.

Wexford Youths match, night at the dogs - the possibilities are endless :pac:

GM228

Belmond is to operate to/from Gorey on a Saturday and not Wexford as originally thought, overnight stay will be in Gorey. The rest of the itinerary is the same as last year with a few timing adjustments.

tabbey

GM228 wrote: »

Belmond is to operate to/from Gorey on a Saturday and not Wexford as originally thought, overnight stay will be in Gorey. The rest of the itinerary is the same as last year with a few timing adjustments.

It omits the Slaney valley, but visits Dublin Bay, Killiney Bay, Bray Head, the Wicklow coast and mountains, Avoca and Woodenbridge.

A good improvement.

GM228

Trial run Inchicore-Gorey-Inchicore planned to run this Saturday, timings not yet set.

201s are now cleared to operate normally between Arklow-Gorey and train weights on the Rosslare line will be increased to accomodate the Belmond.

Jamie2k9

GM228 wrote: »

Trial run Inchicore-Gorey-Inchicore planned to run this Saturday, timings not yet set.

201s are now cleared to operate normally between Arklow-Gorey and train weights on the Rosslare line will be increased to accomodate the Belmond.

When/if you know the times can you post particularly the return working.

GM228

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

When/if you know the times can you post particularly the return working.

09:45 Inchicore-Gorey
12:45 Gorey-Inchicore


Also next Wednesday and Thursday there will be a 11:55 Heuston-Thurles-Heuston private (IE) charter using the set.

GM228

2017 Season kicks off tomorrow with a few timing adjustments as follows:-


* = retimed

Tuesday (as 2016)
14:20 Heuston to Cork
20:30 Cork to Thurles
22:50 Thurles to Charleville


Wednesday (as 2016)
07:15 Charleville to Cork
12:55 Cork to Killarney
18:40 Killarney to Charleville


Thursday (as 2016)
08:25 Charleville to Galway
18:35 Galway to Athlone


Friday (as 2016)
06:15 Athlone to Westport
18:45 Westport to Roscommon


Saturday
06:45* Roscommon to Heuston

Option A
12:40* Heuston to Belfast Central
20:26* Belfast to Dundalk

Option B - during engineering works
13:30 Heuston to Gorey
17:00 Gorey to Greystones
18:35 Greystones to Gorey


Sunday
Option A
08:20* Dundalk to Connolly - will be rostered for 071 haulage.

Option B - during engineering works
08:15 Gorey to Connolly

10:05* Connolly to Waterford
19:10 Waterford to Muine Bheag


Monday
08:00* Muine Bheag to Heuston



Saturday 29th will see Gorey as the destination, reverting to Belfast the following Saturday.

Jamie2k9

Option B - during engineering works
13:30 Heuston to Gorey
17:00 Gorey to Greystones
18:35 Greystones to Gorey
08:15 Gorey to Connolly

High paying guests paying a lot of money to see the same section of railway 4 times!

Yourself isit

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

High paying guests paying a lot of money to see the same section of railway 4 times!

Going to greystones and back seems senseless. Maybe it's to do with clearing the line and the passengers don't have to be on it.

tabbey

Yourself isit wrote: »

Going to greystones and back seems senseless.

Not at all, they will see more scenery from the train that day, than all the rest of the week.

loyatemu

tabbey wrote: »

Not at all, they will see more scenery from the train that day, than all the rest of the week.

I think the point is they'll see it 4 times as the train is going to Gorey, back to Greystones, back to Gorey again and then back to Dublin. Surprised they're not going to Wexford, more to see there than in Gorey.

Del.Monte

They will certainly have plenty of opportunity to see Irish graffiti close-up and at its worst - even on the cliff sections at Killiney and between Bray and Greystones.

The_Wanderer

Evening all,

The Belmond Grand Hibernian started its 2017 season today with a trip from Heuston to Cork, Thurles and Charleville.
Click http://smu.gs/2q3GKXo to view.

Fred Swanson

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Jamie2k9

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Platform 2, all the stabling is largely on a platforms rather than sidings.

Fred Swanson

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Jamie2k9

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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No issues, 06.30 first service out of Carlow to Dublin, 06.00 out of Waterford always uses P1 while the 07.10 gets looped as a result of BGH. It departs at 08.00 before the 07.25/07.50 cross at there at 08.45.

The_Wanderer

Stabling has to be on a platform in case the train requires evacuation overnight.

The rules were amended to allow a train with a "Q" train ID (a sleeper train) to be stabled on a running line.

The_Wanderer

Morning folks,

Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th April 2017:
Photos from this weekend include images of the Belmond Grand Hibernian going down the Dublin & South Eastern Railway line as far as Gorey, where it stabled on Saturday night. The normal Saturday route to Belfast wasn't available due to engineering works. To start off the weekend I dropped into Rosskelton to see the ballast cleaning works ongoing.

Click http://smu.gs/2qleiOj to view them all.

GM228

GM228 wrote: »

Sunday
08:20* Dundalk to Connolly - will be rostered for 071 haulage.

10:05Connolly to Waterford

Bit of a boo boo with this one yesterday, 081 was rostered to work the 08:20 from Dundalk with 216 due to follow LE and work the 10:05, a bit of confusion in Dundalk Saturday evening saw 216 and 081 swap places which resulted in 081 incorrectly working the 10:05 to Waterford.

Jamie2k9

Waterford yard was a great site yesterday with the:
*Weed Spray
*Belomond
*Timber
*ICR's
*071's
*RPSI stock

All was missing was the DFDS's CPW's most likely left in Belview.

GM228

Slightly revised running plan.

Tuesday - 201 Class
14:20 Heuston to Cork
20:30 Cork to Thurles
22:50 Thurles to Charleville


Wednesday - 201 Class
07:15 Charleville to Cork
12:55 Cork to Killarney
18:40 Killarney to Charleville


Thursday - 201 Class
08:25 Charleville to Galway
18:35 Galway to Athlone


Friday 201 Class
06:15 Athlone to Westport
18:45 Westport to Roscommon


Saturday
06:45 Roscommon to Heuston - 201 Class

Option A - 201 Class
12:40 Heuston to Belfast Central
20:26 Belfast to Dundalk

Option B - during engineering works - 201 Class
13:30 Heuston to Gorey
17:00 Gorey to Greystones
18:35 Greystones to Gorey


Sunday
Option A - 201 Class
08:20 Dundalk to Connolly

Option B - during engineering works - 201 Class
08:15 Gorey to Connolly

10:05 Connolly to Waterford - 071 Class
19:10 Waterford to Muine Bheag - 071 Class


Monday - 071 Class
08:00 Muine Bheag to Heuston


Heuston-Belfast-Dundalk-Connolly-Waterford-Mhuine Bheag-Heuston legs to operate as 9 coach train this weekend only and the use of 071 on Dundalk-Waterford-Mhuine Bheag-Heuston which occured in error last week is to become permanent.

Jamie2k9

071 not up to the job with 10??

end of the road

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

071 not up to the job with 10??

they must have hauled that amount in their lifetime surely? if not on services then specials at least?

Jamie2k9

end of the road wrote: »

they must have hauled that amount in their lifetime surely? if not on services then specials at least?

I suspect from a braking prospective regulations may not allow 071 do it.

The 10 coaches don't fit fully on any platform on the network, so not a problem. Belfast, Heuston, Connoly, Cork, Galway and Waterford in that order are probally the best platforms.

Captain Chaos

071s and 2x141s have hauled 13 piece Mk2 specials in the past no problem. I suspect the Mk3 coach limit on the 071s is due to their air compressors and brake performance, I believe it takes a while for 071s to build brake pressure on long airbrake rakes.