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K4t · 10-12-2014 7:56pm

gerard_65 wrote: »

Just home after a long cold walk. All cross-city buses stopped. About 50 stupid looking ball-bags sitting on O'Connell Bridge. Hundreds standing at bus stops on the way home not knowing what was going on.
Had to walk passed these morons, a right bunch of free loaders. Don't know why they were protesting, by the look of them they don't use much water to wash.
Fcuk Paul Murphy, Boyd-Barrett and this shower of clowns.

Christ, I'm on the fence with regards to water charges but comments like the above really makes me admire and sway my support towards those who went out and protested today.

Joe Exotic · 10-12-2014 7:58pm

Do people who support the march really think this matters/they were successful today ?

I know ye are all delighted with the march and pumped up but in the cold light of day only 35k-40k turned up (for whatever reason).

This means nothing to the government and thankfully I think they wont bend any more to the pressure they have come under.

Realistically the government can't/won't reverse this policy unless there is a unheralded turn out for a march which simply wont happen.

Thoughts?

Sir Oxman · 10-12-2014 8:01pm

Highflyer13 wrote: »

Im pissed off with the protesters on OConnell bridge so much so that I went to talk with them.
I talked to 2 groups.

The first group was at the Westmoreland Street end. I asked them to get off the road because they were doing huge damage to the movement. The older fella said that they were taking the bridge and it wasn't done in 1916. I proceeded to explain that this was losing the movement support and images of this will be all over the papers tomorrow causing non social media saavy folk to turn against. Nice enough lads but naive to the damage they were doing. Its the only way they'll listen one said.

I then talked to a second group on the O'Connell St side. These lads were well covered up faces and all. I said straight out to them they should have thought about their actions and they have pissed off commuters and their images will be all over the media tomorrow. One fella said 'well its done now' and got a laugh out of it. These were unsavoury characters no doubt about it. One lad had his head covered in tatoos and he was giving an intense stare.

Anyone affiliated with these lads and you know what groups you are you have well and truly fooked up a good day. Seriously do they not think? We are winning.

Talked to gardai after who were anti water charge too on O'Connell st. They were of the same opinion as myself. ****ing it up for everyone else.

Im fuming tbh

the traffic blockers are a rseholes no doubt most rational people will separate them from the tens of thousands of rightful protestors after they calm down.

Farmers blocking Dublin's traffic never appear to get as much coverage or ire.

LuckyLloyd · 10-12-2014 8:01pm

Stopped by O'Connell St. there after walking from Heuston. Basically a small bunch of kids and Eirgi dickheads are blocking O'Connell bridge in all directions, about 100 of them. This has NOTHING to do with the actual protests. I wanted to give them a piece of my mind about how they are hijacking and poisoning a valid national movement but there was nobody who would engage / was worth engaging with. These people are the dregs of society - the 30 - 60k who validly protested today would have nothing to do with them being honest. Idiots.

Highflyer13 · 10-12-2014 8:03pm

Falthyron wrote: »

Fair play to you, I mean that sincerely.

It also explains why 'end of the road' hasn't posted in a while. How is he doing out on the bridge? Was he the one with the tattoos and his face covered? *waves*

Yep, I long for positive change in this country that I love so much. It broke my heart to see the damage being done by so few. Im dreading tomorrows headlines. We are so close to something great.

Sir Oxman · 10-12-2014 8:03pm

murphk wrote: »

Do people who support the march really think this matters/they were successful today ?

I know ye are all delighted with the march and pumped up but in the cold light of day only 35k-40k turned up (for whatever reason).

This means nothing to the government and thankfully I think they wont bend any more to the pressure they have come under.

Realistically the government can't/won't reverse this policy unless there is a unheralded turn out for a march which simply wont happen.

Thoughts?

That will be their very big mistake.
This is not going away and Mr0" I don't do numbers" Kelly and his comrades will feel the strength of it in 2015 or 2016

dashcamdanny · 10-12-2014 8:03pm

Ok. Just applied online for the water charges.

I marched before about it but for me, things have changed in my outlook. Todays march changed my mind.

I live in a household of 2 adults, 2 kids.

Both of us work. Household income is around 70k gross.

We work hard , have to fork out for childcare and mortgage and so on and so on. No money to upgrade a 14 year old car or have a foreign holiday like lots of others do. Taxed as 2 single people and paying through the nose.
Cant complain. My kids, my costs.

What has changed my mind is the amount of people at that march today that expect me to pay for them to have water.

The only next outcome from another government backdown is to give the lowest earners and the people who do not bother working a complete break from any charges.
In turn. Not only will I have to pay for myself and my family,

But I will also have to pay for joe or Jarosław down the street who currently sit on their holes all day drinking stella and smoking fags already. living for free.

major bill · 10-12-2014 8:04pm

murphk wrote: »

Do people who support the march really think this matters/they were successful today ?

I know ye are all delighted with the march and pumped up but in the cold light of day only 35k-40k turned up (for whatever reason).

This means nothing to the government and thankfully I think they wont bend any more to the pressure they have come under.

Realistically the government can't/won't reverse this policy unless there is a unheralded turn out for a march which simply wont happen.

Thoughts?

Yup Water charges are coming in no matter how many marches take place. Fairplay to people that turned up today everyone has a right to protest I am lucky to work 5 mins from my home but if I worked in town I'd be pissed off if I was obstructed from getting home

Pinch Flat · 10-12-2014 8:04pm

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Stopped by O'Connell St. there after walking from Heuston. Basically a small bunch of kids and Eirgi dickheads are blocking O'Connell bridge in all directions, about 100 of them. This has NOTHING to do with the actual protests. I wanted to give them a piece of my mind about how they are hijacking and poisoning a valid national movement but there was nobody who would engage / was worth engaging with. These people are the dregs of society - the 30 - 60k who validly protested today would have nothing to do with them being honest. Pricks.

There's s fair few fcukwits who would see this as an opportunity to cause agro and intimidate legitimate protesters, no matter what the subject is.

Sir Oxman · 10-12-2014 8:06pm

dashcamdanny wrote: »

Ok. Just applied online for the water charges.

I marched before about it but for me, things have changed in my outlook. Todays march changed my mind.

I live in a household of 2 adults, 2 kids.

Both of us work. Household income is around 70k gross.

We work hard , have to fork out for childcare and mortgage and so on and so on. No money to upgrade a 14 year old car or have a foreign holiday like lots of others do. Taxed as 2 single people and paying through the nose.
Cant complain. My kids, my costs.

What has changed my mind is the amount of people at that march today that expect me to pay for them to have water.

The only next outcome from another government backdown is to give the lowest earners and the people who do not bother working a complete break from any charges.
In turn. Not only will I have to pay for myself and my family,

But I will also have to pay for joe or Jarosław down the street who currently sit on their holes all day drinking stella and smoking fags already. living for free.

Jesus Christ.

Falthyron · 10-12-2014 8:07pm

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Jesus Christ.

No, it's DashCamDanny.

Joe Exotic · 10-12-2014 8:09pm

Sir Oxman wrote: »

That will be their very big mistake.
This is not going away and Mr0" I don't do numbers" Kelly and his comrades will feel the strength of it in 2015 or 2016

Will it though?

what do you think will be the end result of the next election

I think the majority of people of this country are centre right voters and that will be the leaning of the next government

Genuine question

Amirani · 10-12-2014 8:11pm

Sir Oxman wrote: »

That will be their very big mistake.
This is not going away and Mr0" I don't do numbers" Kelly and his comrades will feel the strength of it in 2015 or 2016

The protesters today aren't representative of Irish society as a whole. Government know this.

Tinkersbell · 10-12-2014 8:11pm

dashcamdanny wrote: »

Ok. Just applied online for the water charges.

I marched before about it but for me, things have changed in my outlook. Todays march changed my mind.

I live in a household of 2 adults, 2 kids.

Both of us work. Household income is around 70k gross.

We work hard , have to fork out for childcare and mortgage and so on and so on. No money to upgrade a 14 year old car or have a foreign holiday like lots of others do. Taxed as 2 single people and paying through the nose.
Cant complain. My kids, my costs.

What has changed my mind is the amount of people at that march today that expect me to pay for them to have water.

The only next outcome from another government backdown is to give the lowest earners and the people who do not bother working a complete break from any charges.
In turn. Not only will I have to pay for myself and my family,

But I will also have to pay for joe or Jarosław down the street who currently sit on their holes all day drinking stella and smoking fags already. living for free.

There's one born every minute...;)

Pocoyo · 10-12-2014 8:11pm

FORMER JUNIOR MINISTER Fergus O’Dowd, one the people involved in setting up Irish Water, said last night that he felt that there were “forces at work” with “agendas” to privatise the utility company.
He said he remains “deeply concerned at other agendas, they may be European… I don’t know where they are coming from…” and said we have “real reason to be concerned” about the possibility of Irish Water being privatised.
Responding to the Fine Gael TD’s comments, Environment Minister Alan Kelly told reporters this morning: “I don’t really know what Fergus O’Dowd is talking about, to be frank. I haven’t a clue.
“I mean ‘dark forces’? That goes to a space where I’m not really sure where he’s going to be honest.”

Cats out of the bag FG are over,Id nearly forgive O'Dowd for finally telling the truth.

Bongalongherb · 10-12-2014 8:12pm

gerard_65 wrote: »

Just home after a long cold walk. All cross-city buses stopped. About 50 stupid looking ball-bags sitting on O'Connell Bridge. Hundreds standing at bus stops on the way home not knowing what was going on.
Had to walk passed these morons, a right bunch of free loaders. Don't know why they were protesting, by the look of them they don't use much water to wash.
Fcuk Paul Murphy, Boyd-Barrett and this shower of clowns.

What an idiotic comment.

Foxhound38 · 10-12-2014 8:14pm

Sir Oxman wrote: »

That will be their very big mistake.
This is not going away and Mr0" I don't do numbers" Kelly and his comrades will feel the strength of it in 2015 or 2016

You realize he was essentially given a poison chalice here? This is big Phil's doing, not Alan Kelly's.

AlekSmart · 10-12-2014 8:14pm

Bongalongherb wrote: »

What an idiotic comment.

...Yet accurate

Tinkersbell · 10-12-2014 8:14pm

Diego Simeone wrote: »

The protesters today aren't representative of Irish society as a whole. Government know this.

PS workers, private sector workers, Gardai, pensioners, women with children, self employed, PAYE staff, nurses, doctors, builders, pensioners and unemployed etc etc

Think that's fairly representative of Irish society as a whole ok.

Penny Tration · 10-12-2014 8:15pm

To the pricks sitting on o'connell street, o'connell Bridge and westmoreland street -

Thanks for adding an extra hour to my 2 hour commute, you basterds.

Falthyron · 10-12-2014 8:17pm

Tinkersbell wrote: »

PS workers, private sector workers, Gardai, pensioners, women with children, self employed, PAYE staff, nurses, doctors, builders, pensioners and unemployed etc etc

Think that's fairly representative of Irish society as a whole ok.

So, the 30-40,000 are representative of Irish Society as a whole? What about the other ~4,500,000? They are just...inconsequential?

gandalf · 10-12-2014 8:17pm

Diego Simeone wrote: »

The protesters today aren't representative of Irish society as a whole. Government know this.

I disagree with you. Looking at those who were interviewed marching there seemed to be a good cross section of Irish society there. I would have been marching myself if I had a day off left. If there is a protest on the 31st of Jan I'll be there.

Sir Oxman · 10-12-2014 8:17pm

murphk wrote: »

Will it though?

what do you think will be the end result of the next election

I think the majority of people of this country are centre right voters and that will be the leaning of the next government

Genuine question

I'm hoping (believe it or not) that the two cheeks of the same arse, ie FG and FF finally join or coalesce so you can have your centre-right govt, sham Labour are obliterated and a genuine left-right divide emerges.

Hopefully, a genuine new social democratic party can emerge from the sham Labour ruins and this country after 100 years can finally have a normal party system.

I believe that just may happen in 2015 or 2016 and I believe this movement will make that happen even if a few people decamp from earlier protest and are stupidly tempted by the "lower charges for a while" carrot - the silly, stupid fools.

Bongalongherb · 10-12-2014 8:18pm

AlekSmart wrote: »

...Yet accurate

Maybe in the mind of a slave.

end of the road · 10-12-2014 8:18pm

Falthyron wrote: »

It also explains why 'end of the road' hasn't posted in a while.

it doesn't.

Falthyron wrote: »

How is he doing out on the bridge? Was he the one with the tattoos and his face covered?

i'm not on the bridge.

Falthyron · 10-12-2014 8:18pm

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/luas-service-disrupted-by-car-on-track-1.2033197?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Was gonna suggest this is Eirigi, but they couldn't afford an Audi... Then again, they probably stole it and put it there.

Sir Oxman · 10-12-2014 8:19pm

Diego Simeone wrote: »

The protesters today aren't representative of Irish society as a whole. Government know this.

Really?
Today, as on the last two marches, there was a considerable cross-section of society.
You're not focusing on the stupid neanderthals of eirigi now are you?

keithclancy · 10-12-2014 8:21pm

Numbers for the protest looked sizeable.

But

No agenda
Anyone that had any axe to grind turned up (and was invited)
Message was basically being unhappy about stuff and things.

On top of that they p1ssed off the hard working locals of the City with the largest population in Ireland.

To top it off the streets are covered in rubbish.

Could have been done better.

Timberrrrrrrr · 10-12-2014 8:21pm

Tinkersbell wrote: »

PS workers, private sector workers, Gardai, pensioners, women with children, self employed, PAYE staff, nurses, doctors, builders, pensioners and unemployed etc etc

Think that's fairly representative of Irish society as a whole ok.

Are you listing the professions of the hundreds of thousands who have been stuck in traffic all day?

end of the road · 10-12-2014 8:21pm

dashcamdanny wrote: »

Ok. Just applied online for the water charges.

I marched before about it but for me, things have changed in my outlook. Todays march changed my mind.

I live in a household of 2 adults, 2 kids.

Both of us work. Household income is around 70k gross.

We work hard , have to fork out for childcare and mortgage and so on and so on. No money to upgrade a 14 year old car or have a foreign holiday like lots of others do. Taxed as 2 single people and paying through the nose.
Cant complain. My kids, my costs.

What has changed my mind is the amount of people at that march today that expect me to pay for them to have water.

The only next outcome from another government backdown is to give the lowest earners and the people who do not bother working a complete break from any charges.
In turn. Not only will I have to pay for myself and my family,

But I will also have to pay for joe or Jarosław down the street who currently sit on their holes all day drinking stella and smoking fags already. living for free.

a bunch of old rabel rabel generalization bull****. you were always going to pay. enjoy being screwed to keep a few failures in a high paying job

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