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    #842
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    hmmm wrote: »
    The organisers for this gathering have shown their complete contempt for anyone with a job by holding it on a working day. I think we know now who is complaining about water charges and who the protestors hope to foist the bill onto.

    It will be interesting to see whether any "ordinary" people turn up to support those who will aim to throw bricks at the Guards and spit at politicians.

    We're damned if we do, damned if we don't. We've been criticized for holding protests only on days when the Dail isn't in session, now we're being criticized for holding one when the Dail is in session.

    I'm in college myself but I fully intend to go to this protest during my lunch break, two of my friends working full time intend to do the same. So no, a protest held on a weekday is not an explicit f*ck you to those who work or study full time.


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    #843
    garhjw
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭garhjw


    Streetwalker wrote: »
    Umm I work and I'll be at the protest. Shift work isn't real work is it?

    Will you keep an eye on my bike?


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    #844
    Streetwalker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    hmmm wrote: »
    Nah, I'll be working - someone has to pay for their dole.

    Again keep it up. Your side are losing the battle with childish comments like that.


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    #845
    skimpydoo
    Registered Users Posts: 4,914 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    gladrags wrote: »
    Why?

    Will you be there?

    Are you Enda Kenny?
    I have heard that last week the guards were baton training in full riot gear.


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    #846
    Streetwalker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    garhjw wrote: »
    Will you keep an eye on my bike?

    You've a job right? Pay someone to do it.


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    #847
    Sligo Quay
    Registered Users Posts: 733 ✭✭✭Sligo Quay


    I'v just viewed yet another discussion on water charges on RTE Primetime, Gemma Hussey (retired Minister living on a big fat pension) making a statement, ''we're the only country in the world that doesn't have water charges'' my answer to that is, ''we're the only country in the world that has a UNIVERSAL SOCIAL CHARGE''
    Now in my dictionary, the word universal means, all inclusive, I will pay for water, but not on the double, I pay over 2,000 euro a year on UNIVERSAL SOCIAL CHARGE, I'm surprise the anti water charge lobby is not making more of this.
    If we are to have seperate charges, the the UNIVERSAL SOCIAL CHARGE, has to go, the Government can't have it both ways.


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    #848
    mojesius
    Registered Users Posts: 4,340 ✭✭✭mojesius


    garhjw wrote: »
    I hope 1 of the "protestors" doesn't rob or vandalise my bicycle. I lock it up in town when I am WORKING

    I work too but am taking a HALF DAY to attend.


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    #849
    hmmm
    Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    end of the road wrote: »
    no it doesn't. Brendan ogle is a great man and one of irelands best trade unionists. he is a man who you need on your side, who will fight for you no matter what by whatever way he can
    The anti water charges crowd have made a big mistake this week by letting Murphy and his crew become the face of the opposition - lobbing bricks at guards and imprisoning the Tanaiste are terrible tactics if you want to get the middle class on your side. If they had someone like Ogle leading the opposition, who is an awful lot smarter, the government would have been in serious trouble.

    Personally I think the worst has passed for the government - there seems to be quite a few hotheads who will want to turn the Dail and Dublin city centre into a battleground on the 10th, and that's going to be the end of the protests as they will lose the ordinary public. The vast majority are not going to support anarchy for the sake of 160 quid.


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    #850
    steamengine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭steamengine


    hmmm wrote: »
    Nah, I'll be working - someone has to pay for their dole.

    And my pension - cheers :-)


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    #851
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,073 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    garhjw wrote: »
    Yes dear, that's right.

    it is right.

    [QUOTE=garhjw;93092307Paul Murphy is a commie.[/QUOTE]

    no he isn't.

    [QUOTE=garhjw;93092307Why do you think water charges are so high? To pay for the bloated salaries and pensions negotiated by unions.[/QUOTE]

    wrong. its to ensure the company is proffitable to try remove funding for water from general taxation.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #852
    garhjw
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭garhjw


    Streetwalker wrote: »
    You've a job right? Pay someone to do it.

    I wouldn't need someone to look at it if there weren't going to be so many gougers in town.


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    #853
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Red Pepper wrote: »
    Why do you respond to idiotic posts? He's like a boring 'Barely There'.

    If any of us manages to educate even one anti-activist bigot about the true nature of activism, it's well worth it in my view.


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    #854
    Satriale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭Satriale


    garhjw wrote: »
    I wouldn't need someone to look at it if there weren't going to be so many gougers in town.

    You're ok, they'll be too busy filling out expense forms.


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    #855
    dav3
    Registered Users Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    garhjw wrote: »
    I wouldn't need someone to look at it if there weren't going to be so many gougers in town.

    Which town?


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    #856
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,073 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    garhjw wrote: »
    Arrangements all "negotiated" by trade unions pressuring weak governments.
    its not. i know you have a hatred of anyone who can stand up for employees but you will stop making up nonsense about our trade unions

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #857
    hmmm
    Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    end of the road wrote: »
    its not. i know you have a hatred of anyone who can stand up for employees but you will stop making up nonsense about our trade unions
    Will trade unions be joining you on the 10th? If not, why not? Because if you don't know, I can tell you.


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    #858
    Stargate
    Registered Users Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Stargate


    Red Pepper wrote: »
    You're for the birds. I think you are suffering from Stockholm Syndrone.


    Figures from the Department of the Environment show that Mr David O’Connor, the retired manager of Fingal County Council, is to receive a lump sum payment of €296,082. He had one of the top local government jobs in the country, receiving an annual salary of €150,977 — second only to the €175,721 received by the manager of Dublin City Council. Mr O’Connor was appointed to the post in 2006 and will receive annual pension payments of €73,394.

    Guess where David works??

    First time iv seen him called "David" :D LoL


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    #859
    DamagedTrax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭DamagedTrax


    hmmm wrote: »
    Will trade unions be joining you on the 10th? If not, why not? Because if you don't know, I can tell you.

    Unite and Mandate will, plus more.

    Given that siptu represent the IW workers, i;d say it's too much of a conflict of interest for them.. plus its siptu.


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    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,073 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    hmmm wrote: »
    The organisers for this gathering have shown their complete contempt for anyone with a job by holding it on a working day.

    i've known for a long time that you have contempt for the poorer in society and those who dare to stand up and try change their situation
    hmmm wrote: »
    I think we know now who is complaining about water charges and who the protestors hope to foist the bill onto.

    we don't. you think you know but you're wrong
    hmmm wrote: »
    It will be interesting to see whether any "ordinary" people turn up to support those who will aim to throw bricks at the Guards and spit at politicians.

    not everyone does that but don't let facts get in the way of your bile. to answer the question, many "ordinary" people have turned up and many probably will continue to do so

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #861
    jonnny68
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭jonnny68


    hmmm wrote: »
    The anti water charges crowd have made a big mistake this week by letting Murphy and his crew become the face of the opposition - lobbing bricks at guards and imprisoning the Tanaiste are terrible tactics if you want to get the middle class on your side. If they had someone like Ogle leading the opposition, who is an awful lot smarter, the government would have been in serious trouble.

    Personally I think the worst has passed for the government - there seems to be quite a few hotheads who will want to turn the Dail and Dublin city centre into a battleground on the 10th, and that's going to be the end of the protests as they will lose the ordinary public. The vast majority are not going to support anarchy for the sake of 160 quid.

    you are very much mistaken my friend, if anything it will escalate even further, this is one campaign that the people will win...no matter how many lies the mainstream media come out with or tripe spouted by the shambles of a government who will try every dirty trick going, they are in terminal decline.


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    #862
    hmmm
    Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    end of the road wrote: »
    we don't. you think you know but you're wrong
    Who else other than the taxpayer (and our kids who will pay for our borrowings) do you think is going to pay for the water you refuse to pay for? The bill is going to land on income tax, as usual.


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    #863
    Streetwalker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    garhjw wrote: »
    I wouldn't need someone to look at it if there weren't going to be so many gougers in town.

    That's no way to talk about working class people like myself who are making the effort to take a stand against these charges. But hey if it makes you feel better go ahead.


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    #864
    jonnny68
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭jonnny68


    i predict massive numbers to turn out on the 10th with anyone lucky enough to have a job taking the whole or half day off, and descending en masse , no matter what crap they come out with the only way is for this quango to be completely scrapped, and for this shambles of a government to call a general election where they will get wiped out.


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    #865
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,073 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    hmmm wrote: »
    The anti water charges crowd have made a big mistake this week by letting Murphy and his crew become the face of the opposition - lobbing bricks at guards and imprisoning the Tanaiste are terrible tactics if you want to get the middle class on your side. If they had someone like Ogle leading the opposition, who is an awful lot smarter, the government would have been in serious trouble.

    Personally I think the worst has passed for the government - there seems to be quite a few hotheads who will want to turn the Dail and Dublin city centre into a battleground on the 10th, and that's going to be the end of the protests as they will lose the ordinary public. The vast majority are not going to support anarchy for the sake of 160 quid.
    its not just over 160 quid. this is for all the nonsense and corruption this country has been involved in and facilitated

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #866
    steamengine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭steamengine


    hmmm wrote: »
    The anti water charges crowd have made a big mistake this week by letting Murphy and his crew become the face of the opposition - lobbing bricks at guards and imprisoning the Tanaiste are terrible tactics if you want to get the middle class on your side. If they had someone like Ogle leading the opposition, who is an awful lot smarter, the government would have been in serious trouble.

    Personally I think the worst has passed for the government - there seems to be quite a few hotheads who will want to turn the Dail and Dublin city centre into a battleground on the 10th, and that's going to be the end of the protests as they will lose the ordinary public. The vast majority are not going to support anarchy for the sake of 160 quid.

    The bricks thrown in Tallaght had nothing to do with the sit down protest. The story according to Justine McCarthy of Sunday Times is that a separate arrest was made which sparked the brick throwing. However the Sindo wound the brick throwing photos into the main protest story. It suits of course - DOB influence, clearly lacking objectivity.


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    #867
    DamagedTrax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭DamagedTrax


    end of the road wrote: »
    its not just over 160 quid. this is for all the nonsense and corruption this country has been involved in and facilitated

    and protecting our future and our kid's future by standing up and saying 'NO' for once.


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    #868
    jonnny68
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭jonnny68


    dunno if it's already been posted as this thread moves so quickly


    http://www.thejournal.ie/coolock-garda-station-1787205-Nov2014/


    i commend these women for coming out against garda brutality, the gutter media and government can try and spout as much crap as they want about "dark forces at work" but the darkest force of all are many members of the garda who think of nothing of using major excessive force against peaceful protesters, and boosting their arrest figures by arresting peaceful protesters, instead of being out clearing Dublin city of heroin dealers and junkies.


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    #869
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,885 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    hmmm wrote: »
    Nah, I'll be working - someone has to pay for their dole.

    Ha ha and thanked by madcon with his 5 posts.
    You guys must be bucking that the Govt are on the back foot.
    Daddy might put you to bed early as he's not happy the way things are going.


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    #870
    Stargate
    Registered Users Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Stargate


    Stargate wrote: »
    I see the people in Navan are getting ready to welcome him there at 8pm
    Banjo String wrote: »
    He's due in your neck of the woods on Friday I hear.

    Ah yes , indeed.

    Plans are afoot for a "rebel" kidnapping Friday :D LoL

    Can't wait :p


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    #871
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    hmmm wrote: »
    The anti water charges crowd have made a big mistake this week by letting Murphy and his crew become the face of the opposition - lobbing bricks at guards and imprisoning the Tanaiste are terrible tactics if you want to get the middle class on your side. If they had someone like Ogle leading the opposition, who is an awful lot smarter, the government would have been in serious trouble.

    You talk as if the entire mass of anti-charge activists took some kind of ballot and elected Paul Murphy as our leader. He did what he did. Nobody asked him to do it. How exactly are we supposed to not "let" him and his crew become the face of the opposition? The media will focus on what the media wants to focus on.
    Personally I think the worst has passed for the government - there seems to be quite a few hotheads who will want to turn the Dail and Dublin city centre into a battleground on the 10th, and that's going to be the end of the protests as they will lose the ordinary public. The vast majority are not going to support anarchy for the sake of 160 quid.

    We'll see.


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