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    #1622
    VinLieger
    Registered Users Posts: 17,998 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    listermint wrote: »
    Equally not acknowledging that OUR water infrastructure is a national security asset is moronic. Two sides same coin.

    Until its works the way its meant to its an asset to nobody as far as i'm concerned


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    #1623
    KeepTheFaith
    Registered Users Posts: 623 ✭✭✭KeepTheFaith


    So it seems to me that I'm being punished because I live in a 2 adult only household. If I lived alone I'd be paying €60, if I lived with two others (or more) I'd be paying maximum €53. But because I just have one housemate I'll pay €80. How's that fair?

    Agree with the charges by the way. Why are the protest crowd shouting down anyone who says it's fair by saying 'this is the way they get you to start paying'.. If they go up after 2019 and you think they're unreasonable you can just stop paying then?


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    #1624
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    Daith wrote: »
    And for the tenant. It could mean a delay in getting your deposit back.

    A delay?
    It could mean not getting your deposit back depending on how long you haven't paid the water tax.


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    #1625
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Daith wrote: »
    And for the tenant. It could mean a delay in getting your deposit back.

    I wouldn't want to be a landlord collecting debts on behalf of Irish Water. That's between the tenant and them. You want a debt collector, pay for one!

    Methinks today hasn't gone quite to the governments plan.


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    #1626
    gandalf
    Registered Users Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    I wouldn't want to be a landlord collecting debts on behalf of Irish Water. That's between the tenant and them. You want a debt collector, pay for one!

    Methinks today hasn't gone quite to the governments plan.

    Yep congrats FG and Labour another organisation added to the Anti-Water ranks :)


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    #1627
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users Posts: 28,861 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Methinks today hasn't gone quite to the governments plan.

    We can only hope! Next few days will tell though with the big test being on the 10th.


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    #1628
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    Phoebas wrote: »
    You're going to have to wait 'till 2016 for the definitive answer to that.

    The definitive answer will be that FG are sent back to the opposition benches after one term like they always have been since the formation of the state.
    FG are not fit and never have been fit to run our country.
    They've only ever been put in when FF need a slap.....


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    #1629
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,931 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Until its works the way its meant to its an asset to nobody as far as i'm concerned

    Well it is quite apparent you dont understand the considerable value of the resource to a nation. Its akin to signing away our fishing grounds to the EU.

    Please read up on stuff before making crass comments like it's an asset to nobody.

    It sullies your argument


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    #1630
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    I fairness, if you aren't employed and don't live in those areas, why would you give a ****?

    (and don't have genital cancer)?


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    #1631
    SaveOurLyric
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    mikeym wrote: »
    The Government have shot themselves in the foot several times on this issue.

    I dont trust the Labour Party and I dont trust Fine Gael.

    They have lied to us before and they dont have the peoples best intrests.


    Disband Irish Water.

    They have to lie. The people cant handle the truth about the issues the govt faces. The true cost of water supply was given to then and witness this current protest business from the more vulnerable of society - it will only encourage politicians to be even less honest. And thats the best policy. Best for the people, best for the responsible running of the country. When a portion of the citizens cannot understand the issues being dealt with, best to lie, keep them in the dark, and get on with doing the necessary.


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    #1632
    Pocoyo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Pocoyo


    KeepTheFaith wrote: »
    So it seems to me that I'm being punished because I live in a 2 adult only household. If I lived alone I'd be paying €60, if I lived with two others (or more) I'd be paying maximum €53. But because I just have one housemate I'll pay €80. How's that fair?

    Agree with the charges by the way. Why are the protest crowd shouting down anyone who says it's fair by saying 'this is the way they get you to start paying'.. If they go up after 2019 and you think they're unreasonable you can just stop paying then?

    If you wish to pay an extra charge for water by all means do so,If you agree with charges you shouldnt care with the amount anyone else is paying,If your convictions are true im happy for you to pay. i think you should pay more than 80e in that case. pay the european average of 400e.


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    #1633
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,931 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Phoebas wrote: »
    You're going to have to wait 'till 2016 for the definitive answer to that.

    It really isn't looking that way despite the gloss your party are putting on it.

    Falling apart and treating your own party members with contempt by having a special little members club at the top and even giving the little club a title.

    Its highly amusing to say the least.


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    #1634
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    frippy wrote: »
    Surprised to find myself sympathising with landlords but that does seem quite a pain for them!

    A lot of guards are landlords..........


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    #1635
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    listermint wrote: »
    It really isn't looking that way despite the gloss your party are putting on it.

    Falling apart and treating your own party members with contempt by having a special little members club at the top and even giving the little club a title.

    Its highly amusing to say the least.

    'The gang of four', what a title......


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    #1636
    Pocoyo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Pocoyo


    mikom wrote: »
    A lot of guards are landlords..........

    ...Thats actually true..... :eek:


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    #1637
    [Deleted User]
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    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    A delay?
    It could mean not getting your deposit back depending on how long you haven't paid the water tax.

    Well, if they do the decent thing and pay their bills, it won't be a problem.


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    #1638
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    mikom wrote: »
    A lot of guards are landlords..........

    You know, I recently renovated, had a bit of an auld clear out, lobbed a few things on donedeal.... Sofas, kitchen etc.

    Bought by a nice fella for his buy to let.


    A Garda also.

    Excellent point.


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    #1639
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,931 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    'The gang of four', what a title......

    Special economic council.

    It must really wind vradkar up that he's not in the club.


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    #1640
    frippy
    Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭frippy


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Well, if they do the decent thing and pay their bills, it won't be a problem.

    Exactly


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    #1641
    Pocoyo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Pocoyo


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Well, if they do the decent thing and pay their bills, it won't be a problem.

    I imagine you are reeling Maryanne84. :D


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    #1642
    Stargate
    Registered Users Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Stargate


    listermint wrote: »
    It really isn't looking that way despite the gloss your party are putting on it.

    Falling apart and treating your own party members with contempt by having a special little members club at the top and even giving the little club a title.

    Its highly amusing to say the least.

    Any bets on who will be the first to jump ship on FG?


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    #1643
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    A delay?
    It could mean not getting your deposit back depending on how long you haven't paid the water tax.

    I can picture it now.

    Landlord has a months rent as a deposit.

    Tenant has not paid a utility bill, not in their name.

    Landlord withholds (or attempts to withhold all, or some of the deposit)

    Tenant causes a bit of hassle for landlord, way in excess of what the deposit was.

    I said from the start, bad idea.


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    #1644
    gandalf
    Registered Users Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Pocoyo wrote: »
    ...Thats actually true..... :eek:

    That's even better they've pissed off Gardai now!! I love it, it gets better and better


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    #1645
    steamengine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭steamengine


    Rojomcdojo wrote: »
    Strike action is still on the table from IW workers over the bonus issue.

    What would that even look like? What can they realistically do?

    SIPTU rep on Rte news earlier, nose seemed seriously out of joint over what he described as a breach of the workers contract - hopefully it will be a down tools including high pressure washers :-)


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    #1646
    Stargate
    Registered Users Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Stargate


    gandalf wrote: »
    That's even better they've pissed off Gardai now!! I love it, it gets better and better

    Comedy Gold FG/LAB :pac:


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    #1647
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,931 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Banjo String wrote: »
    I can picture it now.

    Landlord has a months rent as a deposit.

    Tenant has not paid a utility bill, not in their name.

    Landlord withholds (or attempts to withhold all, or some of the deposit)

    Tenant causes a bit of hassle for landlord, way in excess of what the deposit was.

    I said from the start, bad idea.

    And then it all ends up in prtb.

    The government really are bloody idiots.


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    #1648
    KeepTheFaith
    Registered Users Posts: 623 ✭✭✭KeepTheFaith


    Pocoyo wrote: »
    If you wish to pay an extra charge for water by all means do so,If you agree with charges you shouldnt care with the amount anyone else is paying,If your convictions are true im happy for you to pay. i think you should pay more than 80e in that case. pay the european average of 400e.

    An extra charge? No since I moved to Dublin I haven't been paying water charges, I'm from Cavan where I've been paying them all my life. Now the government has decided that the water infrastructure needs to be sorted. I'm not happy to have another bill but I understand it's necessary.

    Of course I care what others are paying. I agree with charges but the charges need to be consistent and proportional, seems like a flaw that 2 person households pay more.


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    #1649
    keith16
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    What absolute nonsense this proposal of taking money from a tenants deposit for unpaid bills.

    It gives a real insight into the sheer fucking stupidity of those who represent us.


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    #1650
    Daith
    Registered Users Posts: 4,955 ✭✭✭Daith


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Well, if they do the decent thing and pay their bills, it won't be a problem.

    It can be. I've paid bills for ESB for my old apt weeks into a new tenancy. That could be because ESB didn't send me the final bill on the same date I'm leaving and they didn't take the direct debit until a week later.

    It can cause issues if a landlord is waiting for the bill to be paid.


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    #1651
    Pocoyo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Pocoyo


    gandalf wrote: »
    That's even better they've pissed off Gardai now!! I love it, it gets better and better

    They have pissed off the unions,landlords,gardai,their own members,most of the public while nearly causing a class war at the same time,The idea of defending these idiots is laughable They cant even show their faces in public,Some people like been spit on i guess....Puppets! :pac:


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