IW/Anything Water Related-Warning in OP

smash

Joan's figures say that IW will bring in 500m in year one. 271m from households. Personally I done see those figures at all, especially since Miriam said that its been calculated that they'll make 90m.

Chucken

SaveOurLyric wrote: »

She didnt. This is the ignorant observation that pervades this almost debate. Older people use less water. But still, jumping to erroneous conclusions is more fun when all you want to do is whinge about the government rather than listen seriously to what they are saying. No wonder they country is a shambles - its citizens ensure it is so.

Indeed...

dav3

SaveOurLyric wrote: »

She didnt. This is the ignorant observation that pervades this almost debate. Older people use less water. But still, jumping to erroneous conclusions is more fun when all you want to do is whinge about the government rather than listen seriously to what they are saying. No wonder they country is a shambles - its citizens ensure it is so.

You appear rather worked up this evening. I find when debating on the internet, people respond well to being called idiots. Keep up the good work.

Hermy

whitelight wrote: »

A lot can happen in a year,I hope your right I hope they will be gone...I hope not one of them keeps a seat.

If FG go it will only be as far as the opposition bench to be replaced by FF in government and the charade will continue.:(

omega man

whitelight wrote: »

A lot can happen in a year,I hope your right I hope they will be gone...I hope not one of them keeps a seat.

So who'll be running the show? A lot of talk in here about finishing the government but not many suggesting who'll do a better job whilst maintaining our economic growth.

AboutaWeekAgo

SaveOurLyric wrote: »

She didnt. This is the ignorant observation that pervades this almost debate. Older people use less water. But still, jumping to erroneous conclusions is more fun when all you want to do is whinge about the government rather than listen seriously to what they are saying. No wonder they country is a shambles - its citizens ensure it is so.

Could you enlighten me as to how old people use less water?

Chucken

omega man wrote: »

So who'll be running the show? A lot of talk in here about finishing the government but not many suggesting who'll do a better job whilst maintaining our economic growth.

Feck it. I'll give it a go

dxhound2005

Hermy wrote: »

If FG go it will only be as far as the opposition bench to be replaced by FF in government and the charade will continue.:(

It won't be FF on their own. We haven't had a single party government since the record result in 1977 for Jack Lynch.

omega man

Chucken wrote: »

Feck it. I'll give it a go

Sweet, that's one to start with. You can be minister for craic.

whitelight

I agree that's the problem ,a lot of people don't know who to vote for or should I say who to trust. economic growth?? a lot of people a waiting to truly see that yet.

Banjo String

Chucken wrote: »

Feck it. I'll give it a go

Taoiseach Chuck.

Got a ring to it.

gandalf

AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »

Could you enlighten me as to how old people use less water?

It's obvious. They smell therefore they use less water !!!!

Hermy

dxhound2005 wrote: »

It won't be FF on their own. We haven't had a single party government since the record result in 1977 for Jack Lynch.

Maybe not but it will still be the usual suspects calling the shots.
And both Labour and the Greens have both been almost indistinguishable from their respective senior coalition partners in government.

duckcfc

The thing is with these changes, us Irish are thick as champ and will fall for this sh1t, sign up then 2016/7 the price will rocket and there's jack sh1t we can do. That or it'll be privatised then were truely fvuked!!

Tinkersbell

duckcfc wrote: »

The thing is with these changes, us Irish are thick as champ and will fall for this sh1t, sign up then 2016/7 the price will rocket and there's jack sh1t we can do. That or it'll be privatised then were truely fvuked!!

That's the plan ok.
Question is, are the majority stupid enough to fall for it?
Time will tell.

Hermy

I'm reminded of this little adage which I first came across in the IPU magazine.

In the beginning was the Plan
and then came the assumptions
and the assumptions were without form
and the plan was completely without substance
and the darkness was upon the faces of the employees
and they spake amongst themselves, saying
"It is a crock of sh!t and it stinks!"
and the employees went unto their supervisors, saying
"It is a pail of dung and none may abide the odor thereof."
and the supervisors went unto their division managers, saying
"It is a vessel of fertilizer and none may abide its strength."
and the division managers went unto their system managers, saying
"It contains that which aids plant growth and it is very strong."
and the general manager went unto the Board, saying
"It promotes growth and is very powerful."
and the general manager went unto the Board, saying
"This new plan will actively promote the growth and efficiency of this
organization."
and the Board looked upon the plan and saw that it was good
and the Plan became Policy
This is how sh!t happens.

Goodnight.

masculinist

whens the General election ? Moanface will lose her seat immediately.

the evasion_kid

masculinist wrote: »

whens the General election ? Moanface will lose her seat immediately.

Theyll try hang around until they push this through like the last government and then ride off into the sunset like Cowan did

duckcfc

Tinkersbell wrote: »

That's the plan ok.
Question is, are the majority stupid enough to fall for it?
Time will tell.

Time will tell that were all a bunch of wimps that will fall for it, we always do ffs. How many times have the government screwd us yet people still fall for their sh1te!! Come a few years we'll all be paying our water at atrocious rates to the government or private company!!

listermint

dxhound2005 wrote: »

That sector of the work forces is around 300,000 out of 2 million workers. The statistics for longevity apply across the board. People are living 10 years longer now than in 1960. And there is going to be a major crisis in pension provision and geriatric health care. There simply won't be enough workers to pay the taxes if the rich pensioners can get their money at the current level for 20 or 30 years. One in five people alive today can expect to live to over 100.

Can you give us a breakdown of the State Pension then versus the average Public Sector Pension then. That would be more interesting no?

Proportionally

AboutaWeekAgo

duckcfc wrote: »

Time will tell that were all a bunch of wimps that will fall for it, we always do ffs. How many times have the government screwd us yet people still fall for their sh1te!! Come a few years we'll all be paying our water at atrocious rates to the government or private company!!

This time last year I would have agreed with you but it's starting to feel like people have finally woken up and can see how badly they've been getting done. I can only speak from what I've seen in my own family and friends but even the older generations who would have usually gone along with everything the government has said without batting an eyelid are starting to see through all the **** they are getting fed.

JRant

It may or may not be short lived but I must admit it is great craic looking at all those government ministers and lackey's having that perma-smug grin wiped off their faces.

The genuinely can't believe whats happening to them and have not one single coherent answer for any question put to them.

Their spin is not working so we can be sure that the scaremongering will dramatically increase over the coming days/weeks.

The "resonable people" will pay up line is also really backfiring. Yet more insults on the citizenry of this country.

DamagedTrax

looks like some of the lads down in limerick have had enough of enda & co.

FINE Gael in Limerick has been dealt a blow after the members of a southside branch disbanded the group and quit the party en-masse.

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/business/business-news/fine-gael-members-in-limerick-quit-in-protest-at-amateur-party-1-6426222#.VG0CTvQtIa4.twitter

JRant

listermint wrote: »

Can you give us a breakdown of the State Pension then versus the average Public Sector Pension then. That would be more interesting no?

Proportionally

Have a gander at this

http://www.per.gov.ie/wp-content/uploads/Analysis-of-Exchequer-Pay-and-Pensions-Bill-2007-20121.pdf

Makes for some extraordinary reading. The public sector pension bill is astronomical and from the figures it is completely unsustainable.

Smidge

listermint wrote: »

Wouldn't mind a house in cavan bit of land nice air nice life. Away from neighbours.

Id swallow up paying for a well and a pump for all that.

How much was your LPT there?

Any subvention to cavan council from central taxes the bulk gendered from urban centres?


Jesus a detached house on land sounds great. Id love the option to have it and pay my own water way.

Jesus Listermint, I know its bleak times and all......but Cavan????
Don't do it mate :D

Pocoyo

AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »

This time last year I would have agreed with you but it's starting to feel like people have finally woken up and can see how badly they've been getting done. I can only speak from what I've seen in my own family and friends but even the older generations who would have usually gone along with everything the government has said without batting an eyelid are starting to see through all the **** they are getting fed.

48 hours ago we were still being 'called sinister' by the media if you didnt have access to social media you would of thought the government had the majority of the people on their side against a tiny minority of dissident wacko's,The FG sheeple that believed the cover up propaganda by this government must in awe of this turn around. RTE and Denis o'briens empire will be the next in line for reform.

hju6

bajer101 wrote: »

Pro tip to the water protesters in Donaghmede this morning. If you want other people to pay for your water, it would be handy if you didn't block the traffic and delay them getting to work.

:eek:

mojesius

masculinist wrote: »

whens the General election ? Moanface will lose her seat immediately.

Not so sure she will. She's quite popular out here (unfortunately), usually gets in on 1st or 2nd count. Although it's a tough constituency now with Joe Higgins, Leo aka Minister of Opinions, and Ruth Coppinger. Not sure what shinner they'll put up or FF. It'll be interesting!

Tinkersbell

the evasion_kid wrote: »

Theyll try hang around until they push this through like the last government and then ride off into the sunset like Cowan did

And then the next shower will spend years blaming the other crowd for the decisions they made?

FF and FG need to be destroyed by the electorate.

Plates

Tinkersbell wrote: »

And then the next shower will spend years blaming the other crowd for the decisions they made?

FF and FG need to be destroyed by the electorate.

To be replaced by who in the next Government? And a proper answer please, not just the usual "any bunch of monkeys would be better than that shower". Really think about it. Sinn Fein and a load of independents?