Rep Ireland v USA

edgecutter

This performance is only going to annoy me after the shambles on Friday night. Why not have a go like tonight. The Poland game will mimic the game against Scotland as well.

Stevecw

Class free

BobbyPropane

What a goal

Mantis Toboggan

Super strike!

LuckyGent88

What a strike

Kerrydude1981

Class from Brady

Not too bad a team when left off the leash

Fudge You

About time someone else gets a chance.

ollie1

What a freekick

Mantis Toboggan

Brady could be the new Ian harte!

Ulysses Gaze

Fantastic free kick.

Feel sorry for the States. Don't think on the balance of play we are three goals better.

Mr.Crinklewood

Beautiful

suicide_circus

Bang

Strong Life in Dublin

what a goal

Sanity_Saviour

antodeco wrote: »

McGeady is seriously ****e!

He's been our best player since he came on.

The_Kew_Tour

I can't believe I actually enjoyed watching Ireland for 90 minutes.

frisbeeface

As a team that's always going to struggle for goals, someone who can take a decent free kick should be in the team. Good job Brady.

antodeco

Sanity_Saviour wrote: »

He's been our best player since he came on.

He's played very poor final passes and lost possession on multiple occasions.

Kerrydude1981

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I can't believe I actually enjoyed watching Ireland for 90 minutes.

Same here

Its been a while

Sanity_Saviour

Sanity_Saviour wrote: »

Just shows we can actually play very good football when we ignore the manager's instructions. Having players like McGoldrick, Pilkington and Brady who actually want to play it down the middle makes such a big difference.

Hopefully this should be the end for Ward.

The players actively ignored O'Neills instructions? Did you just make that up?

Strong Life in Dublin

lol what a goal

Billy86

frisbeeface wrote: »

As a team that's always going to struggle for goals, someone who can take a decent free kick should be in the team. Good job Brady.

He had two very good ones late on against Scotland as well. Given how terrible Ward has been there I wouldn't even mind seeing him at LB for us moving forward, to be honest - McClean is quite workmanlike which could help ahead of him to cover.

Stainless_Steel

Sweet left foot on Brady.

keeponhurling

rarnes1 wrote: »

The players actively ignored O'Neills instructions? Did you just make that up?

That's the game.

Lose : it's due to bad manager tactics/ selections

Win : it's because the players ignored the manager

JamBur

I've been keeping an eye on the "USMNT" forum, they consider this their "Most embarrassing loss in USMNT history"

http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/united-states-vs-ireland-november-18th-2-45pm-et.2013512/page-18

keeponhurling

keeponhurling wrote: »

That's the game.

Lose : it's due to bad manager tactics/ selections

Win : it's because the players ignored the manager

Same under Trap.

"Remember that time all the players ignored the manager and nearly beat France! "

A_Sober_Paddy

This lad christie looks good...can he play left back?

Lukker-

rarnes1 wrote: »

The players actively ignored O'Neills instructions? Did you just make that up?

I heard they had a secret team meeting after O'Neill left to make sure that everyone did precisely the opposite of what was asked.

LuckyGent88

Well that was nice to watch for a change.
Some nice play by us, a few cracking goals, some encouraging debuts from mcgoldrick and Christie and solid performances from Pearce, Clark, Quinn and most importantly Brady.

A_Sober_Paddy

JamBur wrote: »

I've been keeping an eye on the "USMNT" forum, they consider this their "Most embarrassing loss in USMNT history"

http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/united-states-vs-ireland-november-18th-2-45pm-et.2013512/page-18

wow those guys are deluded?

JamBur

So the obvious question.......whats our starting IX? Ignoring loyalty

Forde
Coleman O Shea Clarke Christie
No idea in midfield maybe Brady Hendrick McCarthy McGoldrick McGeady
Long up front on his own


I know its only one game from the new lads, but its dream time:)

The_Kew_Tour

Really enjoyed that. Instead of bricking it at 2-1 we kicked on.

The annoying thing is why could we not show some of that Friday night as we be on 10 points right now.

Anyway onwards and upwards I hope.

The_Kew_Tour

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Really enjoyed that. Instead of bricking it at 2-1 we kicked on.

The annoying thing is why could we not show some of that Friday night as we be on 10 points right now.

Anyway onwards and upwards I hope.

2 hours ago you were saying O'Neill was out of his depth.

Strong Life in Dublin

JamBur wrote: »

I've been keeping an eye on the "USMNT" forum, they consider this their "Most embarrassing loss in USMNT history"

http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/united-states-vs-ireland-november-18th-2-45pm-et.2013512/page-18

Hardly embarrassing considering I don't think the USA have ever even beaten Ireland..

JamBur

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

wow those guys are deluded?

real delusions of grandeur alright........a lot of anti Jurgen sentiment as well

JamBur

Strong Life in Dublin wrote: »

Hardly embarrassing considering I don't think the USA have ever even beaten Ireland..

they have actually 2-1 & 3-1 in 92 and 96

The_Kew_Tour

rarnes1 wrote: »

2 hours ago you were saying O'Neill was out of his depth.

He was Friday night. Was not gone on team selection tonight but 4-5 v good performances.

This was a friendly. If O Neill had trust and belief in his players we be on 10 points now and nobody will change my mind on that.

Even the Scots I met after the game could not believe how bad we were on Friday. This was poles apart , but why not do this against a side like Scotland who pound for pound we are better then.

O Neill bottled it Friday night.

Sanity_Saviour

rarnes1 wrote: »

The players actively ignored O'Neills instructions? Did you just make that up?

I just found it bizarre how the new players actually looked for the ball and kept it on the ground, looked for one-twos (!), played down the middle, and wanted to go forward by way of football. Which is at total odds with the ****e which has been seen in every other match of any worth

As much as you'd like to argue, restricting full backs to hoofing it up to Jonny Walters has more to do with team management style than players evincing their actual individual creativity and skill. What we saw against Germany and Scotland was nothing short of embarrassing.

I was watching Luxembourg play Spain there in the last international break and every time they got the ball they had their midfield actively looking for it along the ground, integration of overlapping full backs, and an actual No.10. Even they have adapted to modern football! Although their counters did not have the end product due to their lack of skill, their desire to have a go had to have been trained and managed. (They, the amateurs, lost 3-0 by the way) There is no reason why we can't try play like this again against Poland, Scotland and adapt it to a counter-attacking style against Germany. It may have just been a friendly, but it still showed we are able to give it a right go when the players are given the freedom to play football.

WoollyRedHat

Always thought Long would be better as a RWF. His pace and power to get past that defender in the end, which led to Mc Clean's, was exciting to see.

Good performances from several players, exciting going forward.
Brady did great, good to see him back to fitness, will be very important to us in the rest of these qualifications.

edgecutter

Sanity_Saviour wrote: »

I just found it bizarre how the new players actually looked for the ball and kept it on the ground, looked for one-twos (!), played down the middle, and wanted to go forward by way of football. Which is at total odds with the ****e which has been seen in every other match of any worth

As much as you'd like to argue, restricting full backs to hoofing it up to Jonny Walters has more to do with team management style than players evincing their actual individual creativity and skill. What we saw against Germany and Scotland was nothing short of embarrassing.

I was watching Luxembourg play Spain there in the last international break and every time they got the ball they had their midfield actively looking for it along the ground, integration of overlapping full backs, and an actual No.10. Even they have adapted to modern football! Although their counters did not have the end product due to their lack of skill, their desire to have a go had to have been trained and managed. (They, the amateurs, lost 3-0 by the way) There is no reason why we can't try play like this again against Poland, Scotland and adapt it to a counter-attacking style against Germany. It may have just been a friendly, but it still showed we are able to give it a right go when the players are given the freedom to play football.

I agree. O'Neill's tactic were to look for Walters every single time by hoofing the ball. You only need to look at Ward in the game to see the tactics in play.

Hopefully we will have a go at the Poles in Dublin and look for the three points.

Sanity_Saviour

antodeco wrote: »

He's played very poor final passes and lost possession on multiple occasions.

Still by a country mile our best player.

Billy86

rarnes1 wrote: »

Same under Trap.

"Remember that time all the players ignored the manager and nearly beat France! "

It's the easiest way to ignore the painful truth - we just are not as talented a team as some like to think we are.

Fudge You

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

He was Friday night. Was not gone on team selection tonight but 4-5 v good performances.

This was a friendly. If O Neill had trust and belief in his players we be on 10 points now and nobody will change my mind on that.

Even the Scots I met after the game could not believe how bad we were on Friday. This was poles apart , but why not do this against a side like Scotland who pound for pound we are better then.

O Neill bottled it Friday night.

Dig up stupid!

ScummyMan

JamBur wrote: »

I've been keeping an eye on the "USMNT" forum, they consider this their "Most embarrassing loss in USMNT history"

http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/united-states-vs-ireland-november-18th-2-45pm-et.2013512/page-18

Great find, some of that is gas.

Personal favourite is this particular gem at half-time:

We're going to win this puppy. Convincingly.

Because those are a bunch of kiddos. Kiddos run a lot early, get gassed, and after just look at you with puppy eyes. We _should_ massacre them.

Which, all things considered, doesn't prove anything. It's like kicking a toddler.

:pac:

Dearg81

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

He was Friday night. Was not gone on team selection tonight but 4-5 v good performances.

This was a friendly. If O Neill had trust and belief in his players we be on 10 points now and nobody will change my mind on that.

Even the Scots I met after the game could not believe how bad we were on Friday. This was poles apart , but why not do this against a side like Scotland who pound for pound we are better then.

O Neill bottled it Friday night.

You have to look at how open/naive USA were in defence tonight, I think they abandoned their usual defensive game cos they underestimated us. Scotland were better organised on Friday and gave us very little time on the ball.

The_Kew_Tour

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

He was Friday night. Was not gone on team selection tonight but 4-5 v good performances.

This was a friendly. If O Neill had trust and belief in his players we be on 10 points now and nobody will change my mind on that.

Even the Scots I met after the game could not believe how bad we were on Friday. This was poles apart , but why not do this against a side like Scotland who pound for pound we are better then.

O Neill bottled it Friday night.

I don't think we are as far ahead of Scotland as you say.

I'd say there's not much between the teams tbh

Augmerson

We gonna get bombed for this.

NIMAN

There might not be much between Ireland and Scotland, except for the tactics of the manager.

What we were served up on Friday night was a disgrace imho. We played against Scotland like they were Germany or Spain, playing tripe football and bypassing midfield with hoofball stuff from a distant past. There is no place n international football for those type of tactics any more, especially against a team which is on your level.

O'Neill is a 'lets not lose' rather than 'lets win' type of manager.

For me Friday night was a massive opportunity missed, especially when we might well get nothing from 2 home games v Poland and Germany.

Aenaes

Christie looked good, it will be nice to have two right-backs in future squads. McGoldrick also impressed, acually coming deep to receive the ball rather than just looking to flick on aerial balls.

Hopefully Brady can force his way into the Hull team at left-wing so he can make that position his own for Ireland.

Aenaes

Christie looked good, it will be nice to have two right-backs in future squads. McGoldrick also impressed, acually coming deep to receive the ball rather than just looking to flick on aerial balls.

Hopefully Brady can force his way into the Hull team at left-wing so he can make that position his own for Ireland.

SantryRed

We only looked good on the ball tonight because the opposition allowed us to be. You don't get that much time in competitive football.