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Chivito550 wrote: »Ovett's 400 best was 47.5. Assume he could go a bit quicker if he ran a 400 when in peak shape (800 runners tend to only run 400s early season, when not in peak shape). That sort of time would rank him very high in our national 400 for example, so yeh he would beat a lot of 400 runners. Of course he was a 800/1500 guy so didn't have the same speed over 400 that the likes of Rudisha has, and Borzakovsky had.
Agree totally, but he wouldn't be beating too many International standard 200/400 guys over 400 I would imagine. As a sprinter though I bow to your greater knowledge on the subject
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The OP didn't mention 100m runners :rolleyes:
As he has said since it depends on what you call a sprinter.
Ovett would destroy a lot of sprinters over 400m
So are 100m runners not sprinters?
There are loads of 60-100m sepcialists that are not fast over 200m let alone 400m.
I have no doubt most world class 800 guys would destroy the likes of Nesta carter over 400m
Edit, I think you are getting confused Pistol, Netwerk errer didn't say he would beat many world class 400m runners over 400m, he was referring to 100-200m runners.0 -
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Agree totally, but he wouldn't be beating too many International standard 200/400 guys over 400 I would imagine. As a sprinter though I bow to your greater knowledge on the subject
Yeh not a hope he would get close to any international standard 400 runner, even if he quit middle distance running and insanely opted to dedicate himself full time to the 400. Still had great wheels though. Albeit slower than Coe's 46.9.0 -
Ovett would destroy a lot of sprinters over 400m
So are 100m runners not sprinters?
There are loads of 60-100m sepcialists that are not fast over 200m let alone 400m.
I have no doubt most world class 800 guys would destroy the likes of Nesta carter over 400m
Edit, I think you are getting confused Pistol, Netwerk errer didn't say he would beat many world class 400m runners over 400m, he was referring to 100-200m runners.
You'd be surprised. Tyson Gay could run 44 high. Carter, Powell etc wouldn't, but I don't think 47 would be destroying any of them. Might edge out a few of them.
I love these hypothetical dream races. John Regis V Daley Thompson over 600m. Now wouldn't that be something to savour
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Chivito550 wrote: »You'd be surprised. Tyson Gay could run 44 high. Carter, Powell etc wouldn't, but I don't think 47 would be destroying any of them. Might edge out a few of them.
I love these hypothetical dream races. John Regis V Daley Thompson over 600m. Now wouldn't that be something to savour
Yeah i am guessing the 100 guys who convert well to 200 would still be competitive over 400m (the likes of Bolt and Blake) but the likes of Carter who deteriorate signifcantly from 100-200m would surely be worse again over 400m?
I'd like to see Bolt vs a fit Rudisha over 400m. I reckon Rudisha would pip him.0 -
Yeah i am guessing the 100 guys who convert well to 200 would still be competitive over 400m (the likes of Bolt and Blake) but the likes of Carter who deteriorate signifcantly from 100-200m would surely be worse again over 400m?
I'd like to see Bolt vs a fit Rudisha over 400m. I reckon Rudisha would pip him.
You'd be right there. 9.78 to 20.25 is a fair drop off so you'd see an even bigger drop off again for 400. Pure guesswork, but I wouldnt be surprised if he ran sub 48. I don't think Ovett would be too far ahead of him. Sadly this is one race we will never see. 0 -
Chivito550 wrote: »You'd be right there. 9.78 to 20.25 is a fair drop off so you'd see an even bigger drop off again for 400. Pure guesswork, but I wouldnt be surprised if he ran sub 48. I don't think Ovett would be too far ahead of him. Sadly this is one race we will never see.
yeah but getting back to the OP who would be fastest over a marathon? :P
I'd say even nowadays Ovett could give any of them an hour at least0 -
Ovett would destroy a lot of sprinters over 400m
So are 100m runners not sprinters?
There are loads of 60-100m sepcialists that are not fast over 200m let alone 400m.
I have no doubt most world class 800 guys would destroy the likes of Nesta carter over 400m
Edit, I think you are getting confused Pistol, Netwerk errer didn't say he would beat many world class 400m runners over 400m, he was referring to 100-200m runners.
Just to clear up things. I used the sprinters as an all encompassing term meaning anyone at any level running 100-400. Yeah, Ovett would beat alot of world class 100/200 guys but he would also beat or be very close to alot of internationally competive 400m sprinters. lest we not forget, 47s is an incredible time for 400m.
All I was pointing out with Ovett is, just because a guy fast over a lap or less doesn't mean he can't be fast over longer distances0
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