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ButtersSuki

Phoebas wrote: »

Yes, your ideas are a threat to us, so we organised a coordinated response.

See above.

ButtersSuki

BillyBird wrote: »

Jaysus, you think a lot of yourself if you think anybody is coordinating a response to your posts.


You get pushback from me because I hate the idea of this American nonsense getting any foothold in Ireland. The yanks are welcome to it.

So you don't like Cuddihy either? Ok.

redmgar

I responded for the exact same point, American phrases such as libtard and woke should not be started over here.
And to think that people are organising a collective attack on you.........................notions.

ButtersSuki

redmgar wrote: »

I responded for the exact same point, American phrases such as libtard and woke should not be started over here.
And to think that people are organising a collective attack on you.........................notions.

No notions - sorry to disappoint - it's happened before (and was confirmed by the mods), but believe what you want.

I suggested rather than stated (there is a difference you know), and I didn't use the word attack - but hey, take it completely out of context if it makes you feel better.

meeeeh

This thread shows up among My Threads. I always read it but only reply if I can be bothered and mostly only when I heard the segment. ( I never criticize your rugby comments because I couldn't care less about the rugby but that doesn't mean I haven't read them). I think I'm not the only person who is sick of libtard, snowflake, woke and similar nonsense. I find it especially entertaining that someone who is not afraid to sling all kind of insults at presenters suddenly becomes very sensitive to number of thanks critical post gets.

ButtersSuki

ButtersSuki wrote: »

3 weeks of no commentary on the Newstalk Breakfast page (which is more the norm than the exception these days) and the use of the phrase "woke SJW PC libtard" generates a slew of outrage and visits (some of the usual faces but many first timers - interesting, couldn't possibly be co-ordinated could it? :rolleyes:) from the.............well, fill in the blanks.

I needed a laugh today..Thank you!!

redmgar

meeeeh wrote: »

This thread shows up among My Threads. I always read it but only reply if I can be bothered and mostly only when I heard the segment. ( I never criticize your rugby comments because I couldn't care less about the rugby but that doesn't mean I haven't read them). I think I'm not the only person who is sick of libtard, snowflake, woke and similar nonsense. I find it especially entertaining that someone who is not afraid to sling all kind of insults at presenters suddenly becomes very sensitive to number of thanks critical post gets.

Is it just in boards that these phrases get used or do people (in Ireland) use them in real life? A genuine question.

meeeeh

redmgar wrote: »

Is it just in boards that these phrases get used or do people (in Ireland) use them in real life? A genuine question.

I don't know. I never heard anyone saying them in real life but most people I know wouldn't be big on identity wars (one or the other side).

redmgar

meeeeh wrote: »

I don't know. I never heard anyone saying them in real life but most people I know wouldn't be big on identity wars (one or the other side).

Too busy working and getting on with things.

ButtersSuki

meeeeh wrote: »

This thread shows up among My Threads. I always read it but only reply if I can be bothered and mostly only when I heard the segment. ( I never criticize your rugby comments because I couldn't care less about the rugby but that doesn't mean I haven't read them). I think I'm not the only person who is sick of libtard, snowflake, woke and similar nonsense. I find it especially entertaining that someone who is not afraid to sling all kind of insults at presenters suddenly becomes very sensitive to number of thanks critical post gets.

Lol. Not senstivtive to the number of thanks or dislikes at all, that's some leap you've made there!

ButtersSuki

redmgar wrote: »

Is it just in boards that these phrases get used or do people (in Ireland) use them in real life? A genuine question.

Yes. Used in real life by real people in Ireland. Have you ever heard Jennifer Gannon or Roe McDermott on The Last Word?

Professor Genius

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Yes. Used in real life by real people in Ireland. Have you ever heard Jennifer Gannon or Roe McDermott on The Last Word?

They’re very woke people though

ButtersSuki

meeeeh wrote: »

This thread shows up among My Threads. I always read it but only reply if I can be bothered and mostly only when I heard the segment. ( I never criticize your rugby comments because I couldn't care less about the rugby but that doesn't mean I haven't read them). I think I'm not the only person who is sick of libtard, snowflake, woke and similar nonsense. I find it especially entertaining that someone who is not afraid to sling all kind of insults at presenters suddenly becomes very sensitive to number of thanks critical post gets.

For the record, I am also "sick of libtard, snowflake, woke and similar nonsense", a fact that seems to be lost on you and others. Did it occur to you that my comments on Cuddihy weren't actually in praise of his style?

BillyBird

ButtersSuki wrote: »

For the record, I am also "sick of libtard, snowflake, woke and similar nonsense", a fact that seems to be lost onn you and others. Did it occur to you that my comments on Cuddihy weren't actually in praise of his style?

You're missing the point - we're sick of people (like you) using American phrases like "libtard". It's beyond juvenile.



If you've got specific issues with something on the show use your words.

Professor Genius

BillyBird wrote: »

You're missing the point - we're sick of people (like you) using American phrases like "libtard". It's beyond juvenile.



If you've got specific issues with something on the show use your words.

Wow didn’t realise Vocabulary Nazis are a thing now !

meeeeh

Professor Genius wrote: »

Wow didn’t realise Vocabulary Nazis are a thing now !

I'm no angel and I'm well capable insulting others but I find word retard pretty awful to use as an insult.

redmgar

Using these phrases is the same as a phrase a teenager would pick up from whatever the current version of Dawsons Creek is.
If you used the word libtard in a social real life setting you would just get pitying glances.

Professor Genius

meeeeh wrote: »

I'm no angel and I'm well capable insulting others but I find word retard pretty awful to use as an insult.

So you’re happy to insult but not be insulted? Bang of woke snowflake off that tbh !

ButtersSuki

meeeeh wrote: »

I'm no angel and I'm well capable insulting others

At last something we agree on.

ButtersSuki

BillyBird wrote: »

You're missing the point - we're sick of people (like you) using American phrases like "libtard". It's beyond juvenile.



If you've got specific issues with something on the show use your words.

Not missing the point at all.

You however are missing my two points:
1. I was using them satirically to mock the target
2. More importantly, believe it or not, I don't actually care what you think

Phoebas

Professor Genius wrote: »

Bang of woke snowflake off that tbh !

BINGO (i was waiting on Snowflake to complete the game).

redmgar

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Not missing the point at all.

You however are missing my two points:
1. I was using them satirically to mock the target
2. More importantly, believe it or not, I don't actually care what you think

But what were you trying to satire?
Does the host use these words such as libtard? Because if he doesn't then I'm
not sure you know what satire means Maybe he does use them, and then you made a good point.

Salary Negotiator

redmgar wrote: »

But what were you trying to satire?
Does the host use these words such as libtard? Because if he doesn't then I'm
not sure you know what satire means Maybe he does use them, and then you made a good point.

I've never heard Cuddihy use the word libtard.

I also don't think butters knows what satire is.

redmgar

Salary Negotiator wrote: »

I've never heard Cuddihy use the word libtard.

I would hope not, because anyone saying these sort of American phrases out loud in an Irish accent would sound silly.

Salary Negotiator

redmgar wrote: »

I would hope not, because anyone saying these sort of American phrases out loud in an Irish accent would sound silly.

Its also incredibly lazy and usually used when someone isn't articulate enough to address the points being made.

meeeeh

Professor Genius wrote: »

So you’re happy to insult but not be insulted? Bang of woke snowflake off that tbh !

No I said I would not call anyone libtard or retard but thanks for your contribution. It's enlightening... about you.

ButtersSuki

Salary Negotiator wrote: »

I've never heard Cuddihy use the word libtard.

I also don't think butters knows what satire is.

Professor Genius

meeeeh wrote: »

No I said I would not call anyone libtard or retard but thanks for your contribution. It's enlightening... about you.

Reread your post again.

ButtersSuki

redmgar wrote: »

Does the host use these words such as libtard? Because if he doesn't then I'm
not sure you know what satire means Maybe he does use them, and then you made a good point.

Around since 2005 apparently, which I have to admit to being surprised at as I assumed it was a newer word.
libtard (plural libtards)

(US, slang, derogatory) A stupid liberal or progressive; a person who presents or advocates liberal views in a stupid and/or illogical manner.

Does Cuddihy use this word? I haven't heard him use it, no. Does he use "woke", "PC", and "snowflake"? Frequently.

Does he behave like a libtard? Does he fit the above definition? Yes; in my opinion. You are of course entitled to disagree.

redmgar

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Does he behave like a libtard? Does he fit the above definition? Yes; in my opinion. You are of course entitled to disagree.

But then you weren't using it satirically, you were using it to describe him.
Anyway ill leave you to it, just nit-picking.

ButtersSuki

redmgar wrote: »

But then you weren't using it satirically, you were using it to describe him.
Anyway ill leave you to it, just nit-picking.

Sigh....

Satirical is an adjective that describes satire, a work that is intended to ridicule the shortcomings and antics of a person or group. So, something that is satirical often looks like the real thing in order to make fun of it

redmgar

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Sigh....

Satirical is an adjective that describes satire, a work that is intended to ridicule the shortcomings and antics of a person or group. So, something that is satirical often looks like the real thing in order to make fun of it

Ok, to clarify you were using it satirically and you yourself would never use libtard, sjw or woke in a non-satirical way?

Because if so you seem to be a satirical master going by previous posts.

Professor Genius

redmgar wrote: »

I would hope not, because anyone saying these sort of American phrases out loud in an Irish accent would sound silly.

Where do you stand on the term “cucktard” ?

redmgar

Professor Genius wrote: »

Where do you stand on the term “cucktard” ?

Only in a Westport accent.

bmc58

Tim76 wrote: »

Me: Surely things can't get worse after Paul Williams.

Newstalk: Hold my beer...

Yes they have.

bmc58

Tim76 wrote: »

Coleman is a pontificating c*nt. He's always got a hair up his arse about something.

Sometimes stand in Mark Cagney is the same.Where does Newstalk get these so up their own ar*es people.

thecretinhop

wud de wurd triggered offend ye?

redmgar

thecretinhop wrote: »

wud de wurd triggered offend ye?

I can see what you did there, very subtle but really funny well done.

NufcNavan

The lads this morning thought that Coors sponsoring a plaque commemorating the lad slipping on the ice was great craic altogether, and not the shameless cynical piece of advertising that it is.

ButtersSuki

NufcNavan wrote: »

The lads this morning thought that Coors sponsoring a plaque commemorating the lad slipping on the ice was great craic altogether, and not the shameless cynical piece of advertising that it is.

Tomorrow on Newstalk Breakfast, alcohol sponsorship - an evil and dangerous mechanism to target the young. Later in the show, Ciaran Cuddihy asks do we have too many plaques in the city of Dublin and has anyone asked the walls how they feel about having screws drilled into them?
#wallshavefeelingstoo
#wontsomebodythinkofthewalls

BillyBird

NufcNavan wrote: »

The lads this morning thought that Coors sponsoring a plaque commemorating the lad slipping on the ice was great craic altogether, and not the shameless cynical piece of advertising that it is.

Surprised at that as well, these brands having the bantz is pretty nauseating.

tototoe

NufcNavan wrote: »

The lads this morning thought that Coors sponsoring a plaque commemorating the lad slipping on the ice was great craic altogether, and not the shameless cynical piece of advertising that it is.

Heard that bit...its worse they are getting. Apart from thse dumb light hearted segments they are attempting, they just cant hide their own bias on topics. Its really poor radio.

DeanAustin

NufcNavan wrote: »

The lads this morning thought that Coors sponsoring a plaque commemorating the lad slipping on the ice was great craic altogether, and not the shameless cynical piece of advertising that it is.

It is cynical advertising without doubt but you have to say it's also a brilliant idea from whoever conceived it and very funny. The three concepts don't have to be mutually exclusive.

NufcNavan

DeanAustin wrote: »

It is cynical advertising without doubt but you have to say it's also a brilliant idea from whoever conceived it and very funny. The three concepts don't have to be mutually exclusive.

I found the incident funny. I don't find the commemoration of it by an alcoholic brand funny. Each to their own.

Edit: Going slightly OT, but the 'banter' advertising from mega chains needs to be called out more in the future. It is all a clever ploy to make them appear more friendly and that they would never ever try to mislead or rip off the consumer. Paddy Power got the ball rolling on this and now nearly every big chain or brand is copying them. It's not endearing for me and should be met with cynicism every time.

Allinall

NufcNavan wrote: »

I found the incident funny. I don't find the commemoration of it by an alcoholic brand funny. Each to their own.

Edit: Going slightly OT, but the 'banter' advertising from mega chains needs to be called out more in the future. It is all a clever ploy to make them appear more friendly and that they would never ever try to mislead or rip off the consumer. Paddy Power got the ball rolling on this and now nearly every big chain or brand is copying them. It's not endearing for me and should be met with cynicism every time.

It’s more a clever ploy to get themselves free publicity on social media, and you just fell for it.

NufcNavan

Allinall wrote: »

It’s more a clever ploy to get themselves free publicity on social media, and you just fell for it.

Except I haven't. Unless you think going online is "falling for it".

Allinall

NufcNavan wrote: »

Except I haven't. Unless you think going online is "falling for it".

Paddy Power, Coors and IKEA would beg to disagree.

BillyBird

NufcNavan wrote: »

Edit: Going slightly OT, but the 'banter' advertising from mega chains needs to be called out more in the future. It is all a clever ploy to make them appear more friendly and that they would never ever try to mislead or rip off the consumer. Paddy Power got the ball rolling on this and now nearly every big chain or brand is copying them. It's not endearing for me and should be met with cynicism every time.

I presume you're a fan of Branded Hellscape Ireland

UsBus

Switched on to Newstalk this morning to see what their view of the Virgin media Election debate debacle was....
Not surprisingly, there was no mention of it in the News bulletin. Then onto the two liberal snowflakes Coleman & Cuddihy. Not one mention of the farce their work buddy Yates handled last night. If it was any other station they'd be up in snowflake arms over it.

They are probably to afraid of Yates tearing a strip off them if they said anything. P*ss poor media we have now, Everyone on Newstalk & Today FM popping up on Virgin TV & nobody saying anything critical..one big cash cow for them all.
Yates is some cretin, whipping up Cooper by his side..

ButtersSuki

UsBus wrote: »

Switched on to Newstalk this morning to see what their view of the Virgin media Election debate debacle was....
Not surprisingly, there was no mention of it in the News bulletin. Then onto the two liberal snowflakes Coleman & Cuddihy. Not one mention of the farce their work buddy Yates handled last night. If it was any other station they'd be up in snowflake arms over it.

They are probably to afraid of Yates tearing a strip off them if they said anything. P*ss poor media we have now, Everyone on Newstalk & Today FM popping up on Virgin TV & nobody saying anything critical..one big cash cow for them all.
Yates is some cretin, whipping up Cooper by his side..

Risteard Cooper is doing an Apres Match sketch series on the election. I heard one yesterday on the debate (before the debate btw) and it's worth looking for. I'd post a link but up the walls at the moment - assume it's on the Newstalk;k site somewhere or YouTube.