No insurance + No license + Drunk + No Lights on

arleitiss

Hey, first of all: Swear to god I didn't do it (I tend to do stupid things but not this much), it's about my friend, she acted very stupid now doesn't know what will happen to her.

Basically 3 of my friends were hanging out in Bray in a pub, then one of friends left (owner of car) and two left. Two girls - they were very drunk, they saw car was open so they didn't know what to do since owner left.

Instead of just sitting in car or leaving it they decided it would be brilliant to deliver car home.
Around the corner thank god they were stopped by Garda (Thank god because I am pretty sure once they would reach speed they could've caused crash).

So what is she gonna face? (The driver)

Conditions:
1) Very Drunk.
2) No license or never held a license (pretty much doesn't know how to drive, but it's automatic car so she probably figured it out)
3) No insurance obviously.
4) No lights on.
5) Lives in Ireland on Visa.


So is she gonna be jailed? Face heavy fine? Lifetime driving ban? Deportation?


I was asked to help and find out what's her worst case and best case scenario.


Thank You.

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Who knows for sure? Fined and banned probably.

Kristopherus

5 years holidays I hope. What a stupid, dangerous thing to do, drunk or not. Hopefully the Gardai/DPP will throw the book at her, and book her friend as well.

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Kristopherus wrote: »

5 years holidays I hope. What a stupid, dangerous thing to do, drunk or not. Hopefully the Gardai/DPP will throw the book at her, and book her friend as well.

Grab your pitchfork, I'll see you in Bray

kona

This has to be a wind up. If it's not your friend is never going to drive here ever and will be lucky to stay I'd imagine

arleitiss

kona wrote: »

This has to be a wind up. If it's not your friend is never going to drive here ever and will be lucky to stay I'd imagine

What do you mean wind up? If you think it's me then honestly no. I don't really drive anymore.

mirrorwall14

Pretty sure the poster means that this is so far fetched it couldn't be true? Is anyone really that silly?

Mint Sauce

Around the corner you say?

I'm sure for starters, that like manuals, automatics also have steering locks.

For that alone, this has to be a wind up.

arleitiss

Seriously this isn't a wind up, I am seriously asking, if you think it's wind up - imagine it's not.
What's the worst case for her?

arleitiss

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Around the corner you say?

I'm sure for starters, that like manuals, automatics also have steering locks.

For that alone, this has to be a wind up.

You may think what I am about to say is confirmation it's a wind up, but as silly as it sounds - it's not.

The car is 1995 3 series, it has broken ignition, in order to start it up - you just need to put key into ignition turn it to switch on position and then use screwdriver under steering wheel to start it up.

I am not sure why steering lock doesn't work there.

Henry Ford III

Sorry but I don't believe a word of this.

greasepalm

and how come the keys passed hands?good deed intent maybe but the actions and what might have happened later as your friends could be in caskets or their actions could have had fatal results,there are too many people driving cars that cant see their lights are not on or bulbs gone.
now will the owner be accountable for her actions,possibly and drunk driving is a big no no,theft of car without owners consent?

deportation!

mickdw

You dont drive much, thats a pity after all that cash you spent on that E46 and continued to spend always against all advice here. You then went out and bought a 1.4 vw that again would be strongly against the advice of any knowledgeable person on here yet only mentioned it when it was bought.
Your posts seem to have a history of getting people 'talking'.

Sobanek

3 year ban minimum.

Deportation? I wouldn't say so.

jimgoose

So the car's owner buggered off leaving said car unlocked and the key in it? And this other yungwan, unfazed by an absence of sobriety, a driver's licence, insurance or indeed familiarity with this jurisdiction, decided it would be a good idea to bring it home to her? I'd say they should all be sectioned.

Witcher

arleitiss wrote: »

You may think what I am about to say is confirmation it's a wind up, but as silly as it sounds - it's not.

The car is 1995 3 series, it has broken ignition, in order to start it up - you just need to put key into ignition turn it to switch on position and then use screwdriver under steering wheel to start it up.

I am not sure why steering lock doesn't work there.

So they were carrying around a screwdriver, was it on the keyring?:pac: I can just imagine a big flathead screwdriver dangling with the other keys :pac:

Be lucky if they don't get done for that too.

Stheno

arleitiss wrote: »

You may think what I am about to say is confirmation it's a wind up, but as silly as it sounds - it's not.

The car is 1995 3 series, it has broken ignition, in order to start it up - you just need to put key into ignition turn it to switch on position and then use screwdriver under steering wheel to start it up.

I am not sure why steering lock doesn't work there.

Right.

Mint Sauce

arleitiss wrote: »

You may think what I am about to say is confirmation it's a wind up, but as silly as it sounds - it's not.

The car is 1995 3 series, it has broken ignition, in order to start it up - you just need to put key into ignition turn it to switch on position and then use screwdriver under steering wheel to start it up.

I am not sure why steering lock doesn't work there.

So they actually had the key? Will take my comment back re the steering lock then.

But the screwdriver under the steering wheel?

NotCominBack

youre goin to jail arleitiss - the big house

Marcusm

I would expect the incident to make it impossible for your friend to meet any "good character" requirement for renewal of her visa which might, in the long run, be the biggest impact. Personally, if sh was that drunk and had no prior driving experience; a cold sharp shock is what's required. In right wing US States that would mean 30 days in prison, in more liberal States perhaps rehab of some sort. In Ireland, a ban from driving and a small fine.

Witcher

Can't stop laughing at having to wedge a screwdriver into a steering column to start a car :pac:

Absolute sh1tboxes on the roads :pac:

Stheno

Strider wrote: »

Can't stop laughing at having to wedge a screwdriver into a steering column to start a car :pac:

Absolute sh1tboxes on the roads :pac:

Can you imagine bringing it for an nct???

Actually that might be another charge on the charge sheet

slimjimmc

6) taking the car without consent of the owner i.e. car theft.
Just gets better.

arleitiss

mickdw wrote: »

You dont drive much, thats a pity after all that cash you spent on that E46 and continued to spend always against all advice here. You then went out and bought a 1.4 vw that again would be strongly against the advice of any knowledgeable person on here yet only mentioned it when it was bought.
Your posts seem to have a history of getting people 'talking'.

I don't drive because I have nowhere to drive. Finishing college this year so I am focused on study so no time for just roaming.

Witcher

Stheno wrote: »

Can you imagine bringing it for an nct???

Actually that might be another charge on the charge sheet

'How are ya, I'm booked in for 10, by the way you're gonna need this'

arleitiss

I could vaguely call that a "car" then again I am nowhere near a car expert (as many know)

As far as I know my friend always has keys with him and screw driver in car. But I guess owner of car gave keys to that girl that night.

Also shes Ukrainian on Visa here.

ba_barabus

You all laugh but I used to use one of these to start a John Deere back in the day



Anyway, the story sounds like rubbish.

Henry Ford III

Masterkey....

Mycroft H

Back in the day plenty of cars without a immobiliser and a worn out ignition (high miles) could be started with a flathead.

Pov06

Haha, my dad has an old Opel Kadett back in the day and he broke the key in the ignition one day so the lock mechanism was removed and you'd have a little screw you would turn to start the car with a screwdriver!

It was as easy as flicking on your headlights

Witcher

Mycroft H wrote: »

Back in the day plenty of cars without a immobiliser and a worn out ignition (high miles) could be started with a flathead.

But this fine wagon requires the keys and a screwdriver..adds to the hi-larity.

arleitiss

Strider wrote: »

But this fine wagon requires the keys and a screwdriver..adds to the hi-larity.

I don't know the mechanism of it, but apparently there is some kind of screw or wire under wheel where he needs screw driver.

bear1

arleitiss wrote: »

Hey, first of all: Swear to god I didn't do it (I tend to do stupid things but not this much), it's about my friend, she acted very stupid now doesn't know what will happen to her.

Basically 3 of my friends were hanging out in Bray in a pub, then one of friends left (owner of car) and two left. Two girls - they were very drunk, they saw car was open so they didn't know what to do since owner left.

Instead of just sitting in car or leaving it they decided it would be brilliant to deliver car home.
Around the corner thank god they were stopped by Garda (Thank god because I am pretty sure once they would reach speed they could've caused crash).

So what is she gonna face? (The driver)

Conditions:
1) Very Drunk.
2) No license or never held a license (pretty much doesn't know how to drive, but it's automatic car so she probably figured it out)
3) No insurance obviously.
4) No lights on.
5) Lives in Ireland on Visa.


So is she gonna be jailed? Face heavy fine? Lifetime driving ban? Deportation?


I was asked to help and find out what's her worst case and best case scenario.


Thank You.

arleitiss wrote: »

What do you mean wind up? If you think it's me then honestly no. I don't really drive anymore.

arleitiss wrote: »

Seriously this isn't a wind up, I am seriously asking, if you think it's wind up - imagine it's not.
What's the worst case for her?

arleitiss wrote: »

You may think what I am about to say is confirmation it's a wind up, but as silly as it sounds - it's not.

The car is 1995 3 series, it has broken ignition, in order to start it up - you just need to put key into ignition turn it to switch on position and then use screwdriver under steering wheel to start it up.

I am not sure why steering lock doesn't work there.

arleitiss wrote: »

I could vaguely call that a "car" then again I am nowhere near a car expert (as many know)

As far as I know my friend always has keys with him and screw driver in car. But I guess owner of car gave keys to that girl that night.

Also shes Ukrainian on Visa here.

Seriously OP?
So said friend drives to the pub, I'll assume he got drunk as well and decided to leave the keys to his car (which sounds like a ****box) to this foreigner. Then he explained the process of starting the car to a drunk foreigner in case she decided to drive the car home?
The girl decides to bring the car home and is able to remember exactly how to start it only for the police to be waiting around the corner.
If this story is true and I seriously doubt it is then I would expect a nice fine to this idiot.

Mimikyu

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arleitiss

bear1 wrote: »

Seriously OP?
So said friend drives to the pub, I'll assume he got drunk as well and decided to leave the keys to his car (which sounds like a ****box) to this foreigner. Then he explained the process of starting the car to a drunk foreigner in case she decided to drive the car home?
The girl decides to bring the car home and is able to remember exactly how to start it only for the police to be waiting around the corner.
If this story is true and I seriously doubt it is then I would expect a nice fine to this idiot.

Well that girl is owners girlfriend, he taught her few times how to drive so I assume that's how she knows.

JohnBoy26

Witcher

Captain Morgan wrote: »

This post has been deleted.

Maybe Arleitiss' mates made it to Galway, was there a screwdriver found at the scene?

The Backwards Man

If the Garda ran out of ink or notepaper writing it all down that could be another charge.

bear1

For a minute I thought I was on AH
Btw lads does anyone know how to track down a unicorn? Bastard of a thing I gave a lift to last night ended up robbing my Ford Model T.
Just before it kicked me out of the car I stuck a gps sender onto it's horn (uuu cheeky) but it yelled at me with a weird satan voice.
Anyway long story short I burnt my toast for breakfast so how do I Jennifer Aniston to sleep with me?

bear1

arleitiss wrote: »

Well that girl is owners girlfriend, he taught her few times how to drive so I assume that's how she knows.

Ara feck off now with this ****e.
Why in the name of God would you ask a forum what possible punishments such a number of offences would give?? Go to a lawyer for Christ sake.
If it's the girlfriend why didn't she just ring her "boyfriend" to get her or call her a taxi?
You didn't seem to mention that at the beginning, you gave the illusion that they are all friends. Utter rubbish.

arleitiss

God damn it, this just proves my life is full of wonders, every thread I make serious or ask it ends up derailed or unbelievable.

Stheno

arleitiss wrote: »

2) No license or never held a license (pretty much doesn't know how to drive, but it's automatic car so she probably figured it out)
scenario.

arleitiss wrote: »

Well that girl is owners girlfriend, he taught her few times how to drive so I assume that's how she knows.

For shame, at least try to keep the story straight for longer than 2 and a bit pages

bear1

arleitiss wrote: »

God damn it, this just proves my life is full of wonders, every thread I make serious or ask it ends up derailed or unbelievable.

Nah, it just proves you've got nothing interesting to talk about.

arleitiss

Stheno wrote: »

For shame, at least try to keep the story straight for longer than 2 and a bit pages

I didn't specify all side details since I mean law breaking is law breaking, and charge is a charge, I assume if you are charged for not having license and never driven is same as for not having license and driven a bit.

bear1

OP, where is the car now out of curiosity?

arleitiss

bear1 wrote: »

OP, where is the car now out of curiosity?

Impounded in Shankill.

bear1

Sorry OP, I just can't believe such a story.
If true go and get legal advise and not from a forum. Scratch that, tell her to go and get legal advice.

Stheno

arleitiss wrote: »

Impounded in Shankill.

You/your friend won't get it back without a large fee to be paid

Gran Hermano

Theft of a vehicle, driving whilst intoxicated and uninsured. Along with a myriad of driving offences.
Sure why wouldn't a judge extend her visa.

deco nate

arleitiss wrote: »

Impounded in Shankill.

If she was caught in Bray, and was only driving around the corner. Why is it impounded in
Shankill and not Bray?!

Stheno

deco nate wrote: »

If she was caught in Bray, and was only driving around the corner. Why is it impounded in
Shankill and not Bray?!

No impound in Bray, think it's Irishtown, Shankill, and Finglas that they have the impounds in?