Working Class areas and the annual race to get the tacky Christmas lights up first.

realdanbreen

Lapin wrote: »

Anyone on less that me is in serious shít.

I don't have issues. I'm asking a fair and honest question based on my own observations.

No need to be so precious.

What question are you asking?

Fat Christy

jimgoose wrote: »

Never, Your Battleship. I was referring to your personality! :cool:

Tell me how pretty I am and all will be forgiven.

Hoop66

Lapin wrote: »

I blame those who make such demands for Christmas goods in November/October.

Ah, but...

Does the shop having christmas stuff out create the demand - "ooh, look, wrapping paper. I must get some."

Or, are they really responding to a demand from their customers?

I mean, obviously, I don't give a fuck one way or the other, but it's interesting*.









* no it isn't.

jimgoose

Fat Christy wrote: »

Tell me how pretty I am and all will be forgiven.

You rather remind me of Queen Mary, except IIRC that had three funnels. Howzat??

RollieFingers

Lapin - a.k.a, The Grinch!

imitation

My word, i almost dropped my monocole into my sherry after reading about all those proletariats and their lights, whats the world coming too. Everybody knows christmas should spent in the drawing room smoking cuban cigars on the mahogony Chaise longue.

realdanbreen

Lapin wrote: »

I will. When they wake up.



<< Only Messin FFS, That last sentence was a joke>>


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I must say I don't have a problem with the lights, garden gnomes, eagles head on the gate pillars, but I agree with you on these people lying in bed all morning. I belive that anyone foynd strolling around in pyjamas during the day should have their handouts stopped.

The Moldy Gowl

Fat Christy wrote: »

Tell me how pretty I am and all will be forgiven.

Your eye make up is nice today.

Mal-Adjusted

I remember when I was young, my parents would bring the family out to an estate in Shannon because this one house went full bat$h!t crazy with Christmas lights. It was nice to see. There's a house out around Rosmuc that does it now, made even more impressive because there's pure darkness around it. Sometimes it can be fun seeing two neighbors trying to outdo each other, as long as they're not interfering with anybody else.

Fat Christy

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Your eye make up is nice today.

I don't have any on! Sexist! Are you assuming I wear make up because I have lady features?! :mad:

Things aren't going well for you....Gowlawhatever: Blacklisted.

SpaceTime

Ah the old Irish and British tradition of being class obcessed, killjoy, curtain twitchers.

I really thought we'd moved on.

anncoates

The arbitrary fickleness of the internet.

You polish up a perfectly decent proletarian bashing thread for AH, sit back and wait for the blizzard of thanks to roll in but it mystifyingly goes down like a lead zeppelin.

Lapin

realdanbreen wrote: »

What question are you asking?

Why the rush to get the lights up six weeks before Christmas?

And why is this determination to get the lights up so early a predominantly notable attribute of working class areas.

Thats not me being snobbish or insulting to anyone as some of the respondents on here are quick to claim. Why would it be? Its a couple of simple questions based on my own observations.

Perhaps if people actually addressed what I'm saying rather than just attacking it because they can't see past the words 'working class' and automatically go into insulted mode, we might get somewhere.


Also I'm beginning to wonder if many of the posters on hear can actually read. There is an assumption that I don't like Christmas or Christmas lights.

Both are untrue. I enjoy Christmas and love lights. At Christmas.

anncoates

Lapin wrote: »

Why the rush to get the lights up six weeks before Christmas?.

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Lapin

anncoates wrote: »

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See what I mean about people who can't read?

From my original post...

Lapin wrote: »

Two houses in particular have had theirs up for almost a fortnight now.

As for this....

anncoates wrote: »

The arbitrary fickleness of the internet.

You polish up a perfectly decent proletarian bashing thread for AH, sit back and wait for the blizzard of thanks to roll in but it mystifyingly goes down like a lead zeppelin.

Oh please. I learnt long ago that AH isn't the place for me to win popularity contests. I tend to challenge the conventional thinking of many people around here and they are uncomfortable with that. Thats why I get the usual insults in reply. But I can live with that as there are usually one or two capable of reasoned discussion.

If I wanted to go thanks whoring I'd open a thread about lighting farts, pissing contests or something along those lines. The kind of simple 'humour' that keeps so many around here amused.

anncoates

Lapin wrote: »

I tend to challenge the conventional thinking of many people around here and they are uncomfortable with that.

We just can't handle it, man.

Larbre34

No, OP is right. I don't assume everyone in social housing is unemployed, but why should welfare go towards supplementing the stratospheric ESB bills for Christmas lights for those that are, not to mention the purchase cost?

It used to be in Ireland that people were brilliant at making ends meet, stretching a pound, saving and budgeting, and that was in a time when money was properly scarce, with very few external supports.

Now, the welfare suite has become so extensive, that people have no incentive to make responsible decisions and judgments of their own.

The Priority list seems to be - 1. Sky TV 2. Smartphones 3. Drink and Going out 4. Holidays 5. Toys 6. Food. 7. Medicine 8. Education

BeerWolf

First world problems...

The Moldy Gowl

Fat Christy wrote: »

I don't have any on! Sexist! Are you assuming I wear make up because I have lady features?! :mad:

Things aren't going well for you....Gowlawhatever: Blacklisted.

I have no proof you have lady features. I was just trying to cheer you up because obviously you are self conscious about your eyes if you only go out in the night wearing sunglasses.

You on the rag or something?

Fat Christy

I thought working class meant those who were working....not on the dole. Oh gawd, I'm so confused!

Larbre34

Fat Christy wrote: »

I thought working class meant those who were working....not on the dole. Oh gawd, I'm so confused!

No, working class means not working, middle class means working. Keep Up.

Icepick

Why do you say working class when you talk about people who don't work?

Fat Christy

Larbre34 wrote: »

No, working class means not working, middle class means working. Keep Up.

So all working class people don't work. Oh the deception!!

recyclops

I love when people complain about there electricity bill in jan/feb and complain that its the companies fault.

absolutely no sense of responsibility on their part for adding the electrical equivalent of a runway in their garden

Karl Stein

There's a couple of working people's dwellings near the entrance to the manor that are adorned with the very 'ilumitatty' you've highlighted. I used to have my driver stop at the gatekeeper's lodge so that I could leave stale bread and tins of peas on their tiny little lawns to help them through this time of year.

One year one of the uncouth brutes that resides within chased the Benz and tossed a tin of peas right through the rear windscreen! No more help from me!

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Lapin wrote: »

And why is this determination to get the lights up so early a predominantly notable attribute of working class areas.

But it's not! This is where you went wrong. You probably need to get out more.

Frank O. Pinion

Whether on a council house or a Celtic Tiger mansion, either way, can't we all agree it looks like shit?

Karl Stein

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

Whether on a council house or a Celtic Tiger mansion, either way, can't we all agree it looks like shit?

No. I kinda like it, and not in an ironic cider-can-hipster way.

Oh mother of sweet divine jesus a thread about Christmas lights turns into a dole scroungers thread.

Yis are a shower of Bah Humbugs.

I hope all yizzer curtains fall down and yis have to see ALL THE LIGHTS ALL THE TIME.

Yiz.

AndyBoBandy

Could we get some pictures of the offending houses?

Generic Dreadhead

IBTL

Summer wind

I love driving around at Christmas with the children in the car looking at the lights. They love it too and some of the houses collect money for charity so that's good too. Why not have a bit of colour and sparkle in our lives.

anncoates

The best light display I've ever seen is in Ballyfermot.. The house and even the garden is bedecked.

I've often swung by there to have a look even though it's out of my way.

If they have kids, they have won Christmas

TheLastMohican

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh mother of sweet divine jesus a thread about Christmas lights turns into a dole scroungers thread.

Yis are a shower of Bah Humbugs.

I hope all yizzer curtains fall down on real lighting candles and yis have to see the lines of fire engines with the blue flashy lights clashing with your orange glow ALL THE LIGHTS ALL THE TIME.

Yiz.

Just a minor tinkering with your post in a corrective manner

Magico Gonzalez

What harm, if they like it, let them get on with it.

Some of you deserves nothing but soot and coal for Christmas. Miserable shytes.

ireland.man

I hate these threads. Young middle-class people (or the ones who aspire to be) post about how they hate some signifiers of 'working-class culture' (certain clothes, pyjamas in public, now christmas lights). The poster looks like a narrow-minded tool lacking in self-awareness and doesn't realise he's just using a piece of culture to vent his dislike for a whole group of people. Then a few posts later you have people fighting about and focusing on welfare fraud, disability and those lazy bast*rds we're all paying just to sleep all day and watch telly, reinforcing the OPs prejudices.

mariaalice

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh mother of sweet divine jesus a thread about Christmas lights turns into a dole scroungers thread.

Yis are a shower of Bah Humbugs.

I hope all yizzer curtains fall down and yis have to see ALL THE LIGHTS ALL THE TIME.

Yiz.

Turning a thread on Christmas lights in to a dole bashing thread must almost win first prize for stretching the most tenuous link.

Smidge

Maybe its just me but what's wrong with it?
Its been a tough year for a lot of people and xmas is a time to ENJOY.
To see friends, have family return from abroad, have a couple of days off work for some folks where you can sit about all day watching shyte on the telly while eating entire tins of sweets in your pyjamas, and no-one bats an eyelid as well, its xmas.
I love to see people put up lights and decorate their homes and gardens.
Doesn't matter a jot to me if it is done in an entirely white and totally tasteful theme or if the strings of multi-coloured, flung up lights look like a very unfortunate trip to a drunk dentist. Its the entering into the spirit that I like.

Iranoutofideas

No Christmas lights here, my house looks like Dracula's castle (fun sized version)

jimgoose

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh mother of sweet divine jesus a thread about Christmas lights turns into a dole scroungers thread.

Yis are a shower of Bah Humbugs.

I hope all yizzer curtains fall down and yis have to see ALL THE LIGHTS ALL THE TIME.

Yiz.

Couldn't agree more. 'Specially for you Whoopsie, have one of my favourite Christmas carols:

steddyeddy

Lapin wrote: »

Something I've noticed in recent years is an apparent race between the occupants of a number of houses in a council estate near me to don their homes with the most gaudy over the top Christmas lights, and the determination by some of the residents to get theirs up before the neighbours.

Two houses in particular have had theirs up for almost a fortnight now.

And each year they seem to get more and more outlandish and ostentatious with larger then scale figures of Santa Claus lit up at the chimney to be seen for miles around and further lights now festooned around the garden and every available space on the walls of the house.

I don't have a problem with anyone tarting up their houses for the festive season. It has long since been accepted as the most tasteless time of the year, but I'd prefer if they were confined to the festive season rather than two months of the year.

Of course I acknowledge that there are middle class people who turn their residences into garish winter wonderlands every year too. I don't know where they get the time. But the phenonmen of displaying the most jaunty glittery tat annually, and the quest to get it up first every year is overwhelmingly a feature of working class council estates urban areas.

Its not as if there are prizes for doing so like there are for the Tidy Towns competition during the Summer, (although that doesn't seem to be an insentive in many of these estates anyway.)

The first electricity of the new year for families with such displays must be eye watering, but that's none of my business. I do wonder though it this race to get the lights up earlier every year adds increased pressure to fire crews around the country as the potential for fire risk must be a lot higher with so many lights and electrical sockets in use.

Middle and working class? Please bring your thinking into this century and we can have a level debate.

Fat Christy

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

I have no proof you have lady features. I was just trying to cheer you up because obviously you are self conscious about your eyes if you only go out in the night wearing sunglasses.

You on the rag or something?

Yeah, bleeding all over the shop so I am.

I'll PM you some pics, I'm sound like that.

Lapin

Makayla Some Bride wrote: »

But it's not! This is where you went wrong. You probably need to get out more.

It is. I didn't go wrong anywhere. I opened a post based on my own observations. I'm out everyday.

Summer wind wrote: »

I love driving around at Christmas with the children in the car looking at the lights. They love it too and some of the houses collect money for charity so that's good too. Why not have a bit of colour and sparkle in our lives.

Do you tell your kids Christmas lasts from early November to the second week in January?

anncoates wrote: »

The best light display I've ever seen is in Ballyfermot.. The house and even the garden is bedecked.

I've often swung by there to have a look even though it's out of my way.

If they have kids, they have won Christmas

Again, its not Christmas.

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

What harm, if they like it, let them get on with it.

Why not just have Christmas lights up all year round then?

ireland.man wrote: »

I hate these threads. Young middle-class people (or the ones who aspire to be) post about how they hate some signifiers of 'working-class culture' (certain clothes, pyjamas in public, now christmas lights). The poster looks like a narrow-minded tool lacking in self-awareness and doesn't realise he's just using a piece of culture to vent his dislike for a whole group of people. Then a few posts later you have people fighting about and focusing on welfare fraud, disability and those lazy bast*rds we're all paying just to sleep all day and watch telly, reinforcing the OPs prejudices.

Can you please explain how drew this assumption from my opening post?

I never mentioned welfare fraud or disabilities. You are making accusations there based on what you want to believe rather than anything I actually said.

steddyeddy wrote: »

Middle and working class? Please bring your thinking into this century and we can have a level debate.

Both terms are widely in use today.

The Moldy Gowl

Fat Christy wrote: »

Yeah, bleeding all over the shop so I am.

I'll PM you some pics, I'm sound like that.

Already one step ahead of you. Have your own thread ready and waiting. Be the woman you were meant to be.

Generic Dreadhead

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Already one step ahead of you. Have your own thread ready and waiting. Be the woman you were meant to be.

With the amount of bleeding going on right now she's more boat than woman

Fat Christy

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Already one step ahead of you. Have your own thread ready and waiting. Be the woman you were meant to be.

No.

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Fat Christy wrote: »

No we're lovers, dontcha know?

Like an incestual geminial Castor and Pollox? Hey, this thread has been stretched enough with side topics so please don't bring sex into it.

eviltwin

Lapin wrote: »

Something I've noticed in recent years is an apparent race between the occupants of a number of houses in a council estate near me to don their homes with the most gaudy over the top Christmas lights, and the determination by some of the residents to get theirs up before the neighbours.

Two houses in particular have had theirs up for almost a fortnight now.

And each year they seem to get more and more outlandish and ostentatious with larger then scale figures of Santa Claus lit up at the chimney to be seen for miles around and further lights now festooned around the garden and every available space on the walls of the house.

I don't have a problem with anyone tarting up their houses for the festive season. It has long since been accepted as the most tasteless time of the year, but I'd prefer if they were confined to the festive season rather than two months of the year.

Of course I acknowledge that there are middle class people who turn their residences into garish winter wonderlands every year too. I don't know where they get the time. But the phenonmen of displaying the most jaunty glittery tat annually, and the quest to get it up first every year is overwhelmingly a feature of working class council estates urban areas.

Its not as if there are prizes for doing so like there are for the Tidy Towns competition during the Summer, (although that doesn't seem to be an insentive in many of these estates anyway.)

The first electricity of the new year for families with such displays must be eye watering, but that's none of my business. I do wonder though it this race to get the lights up earlier every year adds increased pressure to fire crews around the country as the potential for fire risk must be a lot higher with so many lights and electrical sockets in use.

I live in an area like that. My neighbours either side have their decorations up at least a week. Mine will go up mid December. So what though, I'm not going to draw conclusions from that. Maybe it cheers them up or perhaps they do it for the children. It doesn't indicate anything about the kind of people they are. We may live in a less affluent area but we aren't lesser people because of that.