Wonder Woman (2017)

Sobko

Did a search and cannot find a thread for her stand alone movie. Well the movie now has its director Michelle MacLaren better known for her work on Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead and Breaking Bad.

OU812

Knows how to handle action & drama so. Hopefully we'll get something decent & no invisible frigging plane

ancapailldorcha

OU812 wrote: »

Knows how to handle action & drama so. Hopefully we'll get something decent & no invisible frigging plane

And the protagonist wearing more than a bathing suit.

wonderboy76

OU812 wrote: »

Knows how to handle action & drama so. Hopefully we'll get something decent & no invisible frigging plane

Joss Whedon's script, dumped by WB all those years ago (how they must be regretting THAT now) apparently worked in the Invisible Jet.

I'm sure we won't see it just yet but it's such an inconic part of her history that I think they'll try and have it appear in the Justice League movies or later WW outings.

But I'm hoping for something intelligent and respectful of her and her origins and history but that updates her for a new era. The news of this skilled director taking the helm certainly makes me think we won't get something terrible but it's going to depend on the script.

And please let them give Lynda Carter a cameo.

Otacon

wonderboy76 wrote: »

Invisible Jet... I'm sure we won't see it just yet

sharmander

wonderboy76 wrote: »

And please let them give Lynda Carter a cameo.

THIS THIS THIS THIS please!

kingtiger

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

And the protagonist wearing more than a bathing suit.

lets hope not

ricero

I fear this may flop and sadly because its a female superhero. I'm not being sexist I'll go see it as i like the characther but I think the majority of testorone filled males won't due to this. Also not a big name actress in the role

wonderboy76

I agree that female heroes have a bigger uphill climb at the box office but Catwoman, Elektra etc didn’t flop at the box office b/c they were women, they flopped because they were awful movies.

The Hunger Games shows that you can put a woman in a lead action flick and have it do well.

And Wonder Woman is clearly the most famous and well known female superhero. I think the casting of a virtually uknown (and not white) woman in the role is exactly what it needs. Remember years ago when it was going to be Sandra Bullock?

ricero

wonderboy76 wrote: »

I agree that female heroes have a bigger uphill climb at the box office but Catwoman, Elektra etc didn’t flop at the box office b/c they were women, they flopped because they were awful movies.

The Hunger Games shows that you can put a woman in a lead action flick and have it do well.

And Wonder Woman is clearly the most famous and well known female superhero. I think the casting of a virtually uknown (and not white) woman in the role is exactly what it needs. Remember years ago when it was going to be Sandra Bullock?

The hunger games had a huge following from the books already and also Jennifer Lawrence who is a huge star and loved by audiences. I agree Catwoman sucked and Electra was just as awful. Here's hoping its a good film that's the most important thing.

pixelburp

ricero wrote: »

I fear this may flop and sadly because its a female superhero. I'm not being sexist I'll go see it as i like the characther but I think the majority of testorone filled males won't due to this. Also not a big name actress in the role

One swallow doesn't make a summer, but The Hunger Games series has demonstrated that the gender of its protagonist can be utterly irrelevant if the tentpole 'hero' movie is decent in of itself. If Wonder Woman has a tight script and is competently put together (though the track record of DC so far doesn't suggest this is likely), there's no reason it can't succeed; frankly there's a lot of broadly untested myth about the idea that female-driven blockbusters can't shift tickets.

Guardians of the Galaxy was meant to be a tremendous flop, it was too out there people said, too potentially alienating of the common audience member, yet it's arguably the biggest hit of the year; if the product is good, people will go see it.

wonderboy76

ricero wrote: »

The hunger games had a huge following from the books already and also Jennifer Lawrence who is a huge star and loved by audiences. I agree Catwoman sucked and Electra was just as awful. Here's hoping its a good film that's the most important thing.

And the books also featured a female lead in a well written story. A female-led action franchise CAN work. And arguably, if there's any female hero it's suited to more than any other, it's WW.

I feel the one thing that will kill this movie before it even hits is the negativity about how it "will bomb". I hope Gal, Michelle and everyone involved feels that people DO want this movie, the time is right for Wonder Woman but if keep shouting that it'll be a pile of cr*p then that'll ensure it's dead in the water.

Keep the faith, people!

DoYouEvenLift

Lol actually looking forward to this but chances are it'll be terrible

Bipolar Joe

If it does bomb (I'm cynical about it, myself), can we expect the "Viewers are too sexist to watch a Wonder Woman movie" articles?

Frank O. Pinion

Why exactly did Warner Bros./DC insist on a female director?

pixelburp

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

If it does bomb (I'm cynical about it, myself), can we expect the "Viewers are too sexist to watch a Wonder Woman movie" articles?

Why would there be? If this movie bombs the more likely conversation will be DC's continuing ham-fisted inability to adapt its own franchises for cinema.

DoYouEvenLift

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

Why exactly did Warner Bros./DC insist on a female director?

Appeal to the whole modern feminism and "we're as good as men" market I suppose...even though it's based off of fuking comic books that kids read

pixelburp wrote: »

Why would there be? If this movie bombs the more likely conversation will be DC's continuing ham-fisted inability to adapt its own franchises for cinema.

Mostly, yes, but there would still be some bored tumblr users who hadn't even seen the movie out to stir sh!t...and malleable idiots to spread it. And aside from TDK trilogy I agree with you, seems like they're really rushing into this new slate of movies to try to compete with marvel when they're not even close. They should just slow down and plan it all out perfectly to make each individual movie as good as possible.

pixelburp

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

Appeal to the whole modern feminism and "we're as good as men" market I suppose...even though it's based off of fuking comic books that kids read

Mostly, yes, but there would still be some bored tumblr users who hadn't even seen the movie out to stir sh!t

So sort of the same as bored boards.ie users who haven't seen it, yet are reading way too much into decisions made already? The box office is perfectly capable of supporting female-lead blockbusters, Lucy and the Hunger Games this year alone show this, there's no hidden agendas at play there, unless you count the bankability of ScarJo and Jennifer Lawrence; the most foolish thing will be people suddenly channeling their hopes and prejudices into Wonder Woman just 'cos it's a female superhero. Me? I'm looking forward to it 'cos it'll make a friggin' change.

DoYouEvenLift

pixelburp wrote: »

So sort of the same as bored boards.ie users who haven't seen it, yet are reading way too much into decisions made already? The box office is perfectly capable of supporting female-lead blockbusters, Lucy and the Hunger Games this year alone show this, there's no hidden agendas at play there, unless you count the bankability of ScarJo and Jennifer Lawrence; the most foolish thing will be people suddenly channeling their hopes and prejudices into Wonder Woman just 'cos it's a female superhero. Me? I'm looking forward to it 'cos it'll make a friggin' change.

I said I was looking forward to it? Who said the box office wasn't capable of supporting female leads? And Hunger games 2 was good, Lucy was sh!t

pixelburp

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

I said I was looking forward to it? Who said the box office wasn't capable of supporting female leads? And Hunger games 2 was good, Lucy was sh!t

Meh, I was mostly still addressing the previous talk the films success/failure down to its gender. Time will tell.

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

And aside from TDK trilogy I agree with you, seems like they're really rushing into this new slate of movies to try to compete with marvel when they're not even close. They should just slow down and plan it all out perfectly to make each individual movie as good as possible.

Rumour has it the order came down from DC for 'no jokes', that these movies be more serious affairs than Marvel's approach, presumably either to avoid direct comparison with the Marvel films, or just the belief that more of the Nolan'verse was what people wanted. Again time will tell, but I'm not sure I'm immediately and entirely stoked about a half-dozen 'Man of Steel'-a-likes and everyone acting terribly grimdark about being a superhero...

wonderboy76

wonderboy76 wrote: »

I agree that female heroes have a bigger uphill climb at the box office but Catwoman, Elektra etc didn’t flop at the box office b/c they were women, they flopped because they were awful movies.

The Hunger Games shows that you can put a woman in a lead action flick and have it do well.

And Wonder Woman is clearly the most famous and well known female superhero. I think the casting of a virtually uknown (and not white) woman in the role is exactly what it needs. Remember years ago when it was going to be Sandra Bullock?

Why not white?

pixelburp

pixelburp wrote: »

Meh, I was mostly still addressing the previous talk the films success/failure down to its gender. Time will tell.


Rumour has it the order came down from DC for 'no jokes', that these movies be more serious affairs than Marvel's approach, presumably either to avoid direct comparison with the Marvel films, or just the belief that more of the Nolan'verse was what people wanted. Again time will tell, but I'm not sure I'm immediately and entirely stoked about a half-dozen 'Man of Steel'-a-likes and everyone acting terribly grimdark about being a superhero...

Try making the flash as an uber serious lad and watch that fail (especially if they use Wally in place of Barry)

wonderboy76

Deleted User wrote: »

Why not white?

I don’t mean it as in we should be beating a diversity drum but more than the Amazons should have a more exotic quality, rather than all look like lovely all American girls. Heck Lynda Carter is/was half Mexican. 

I think Gadot’s ethnic heritage, accent etc will sell the character more. Again, I wouldn’t be caring if they had cast a blue-eyed white American girl but I am kinda glad they didn’t. I’ll be interested overall to see how they tackle the ethnicity and diversity of the Amazons overall in this movie.

wonderboy76

Deleted User wrote: »

Try making the flash as an uber serious lad and watch that fail (especially if they use Wally in place of Barry)

Now the actor playing him is an odd choice!

I do wonder if they've tested all the actors with each other to see if they all 'gel' as a League.

wonderboy76

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

Why exactly did Warner Bros./DC insist on a female director?

I don't think they _insisted_ but I think it was certainly the route they were preferring to go down. One of the producers is also a woman but no word on who will write the script yet. Female screenwriters doing action/adventure seem even rarer than directors!

wonderboy76

wonderboy76 wrote: »

I don’t mean it as in we should be beating a diversity drum but more than the Amazons should have a more exotic quality, rather than all look like lovely all American girls. Heck Lynda Carter is/was half Mexican. 

I think Gadot’s ethnic heritage, accent etc will sell the character more. Again, I wouldn’t be caring if they had cast a blue-eyed white American girl but I am kinda glad they didn’t. I’ll be interested overall to see how they tackle the ethnicity and diversity of the Amazons overall in this movie.

I get ya know. Basically a Mediterranean (seeing as she is based around ancient Greeks)

wonderboy76

Deleted User wrote: »

I get ya know. Basically a Mediterranean (seeing as she is based around ancient Greeks)

and that she'll be a demi-God. Batman V Superman has a lot of work to ensure audiences buy into the notion that the Gods worshipped by the Amazons exist. It's one thing to have them cross over in the 2d pages of a comic, but in a live action movie to have Batman running around with the daughter of Zeus will be a much tougher sell.

JP Liz V1

Wasn't Angelina Jolie in the mix to direct at some stage?

Will it be Circe or Cheetah or another the main villain in this film?

Any casting suggestions for them or Steve Trevor, Eva Green's name been mentioned on a few sites and Ryan Gosling too for Steve

Hannibal Smith

I cannot wait for this! I loved wonder woman! I really hope its not Angelina Jolie.

Harry Palmr

So long as she has a narrow waste and big tits it'll be a hit. That said whoever plays WW she'll never be as hot as Lynda Carter.

Is Gadot not playing her?

DoYouEvenLift

Harry Palmr wrote: »

So long as she has a narrow waste and big tits it'll be a hit. That said whoever plays WW she'll never be as hot as Lynda Carter.

Guess that counts Gadot out then.


WW was actually the toughest character to cast for these movies I'd say, so few actresses that can pull off the look of her while also being an actually good actor. Gina Carano was one of the better options considering she'd be on the same level as Gadot acting wise and she's actually a fighter with the physique to go along with it.

Harry Palmr

I dunno if she can act but Adrianne Curry would be pretty good looks wise.

jonnyfingers

I was hoping they'd go for someone like Gina Carano. Really liked her in Haywire and she has the physicality to portray Wonder Woman. I just don't buy Gal Gadot in the part. Will still be interested to see how this turns out.

Soft Falling Rain

I'm Gadot will surprise us but it's interesting to note that she is Snyder's WW, not McClaren's. I'm sure McClaren has bought into their vision though as otherwise she wouldn't have signed on.

JP Liz V1

Deleted User wrote: »

Is Gadot not playing her?

She is

Brief_Lives

Deleted User wrote: »

Is Gadot not playing her?

Mickeroo

wonderboy76 wrote: »

and that she'll be a demi-God. Batman V Superman has a lot of work to ensure audiences buy into the notion that the Gods worshipped by the Amazons exist. It's one thing to have them cross over in the 2d pages of a comic, but in a live action movie to have Batman running around with the daughter of Zeus will be a much tougher sell.

Not a hard sell at all, people said the same about Iron Man running around with the son of Odin and it didn't really take any great effort beyond just putting them together in a film.

DoYouEvenLift

Mickeroo wrote: »

Not a hard sell at all, people said the same about Iron Man running around with the son of Odin and it didn't really take any great effort beyond just putting them together in a film.

Depends how much detail they want to include about the greek mythology and all that for her origin in the universe really, chances are it'll pretty brief like superman's in MoS

Mickeroo

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

Depends how much detail they want to include about the greek mythology and all that for her origin in the universe really, chances are it'll pretty brief like superman's in MoS

They laid it on pretty thick in Thor without any issues I don't see why it wouldn't work for this. It's nothing to do with the Nolan Batman films so they pretty much have carte blanche in how far they want to go with it imo. The daft stuff they showed on krypton in MoS is no worse than Greek mythology in terms of believability (for me anyway).

ricero

Who's directing ? And who would you say will be the main villian against wonder woman ?

Nervous Wreck

The reason the Norse mythology worked in Thor is Marvel went all in. They trusted their characters and their stories and they laid it all out. If DC do the same with WW's origins, it will work. But I'm skeptical, I have to say. Their hesitance to even make a WW film so far is telling. Hope I'm wrong though!

JP Liz V1

ricero wrote: »

Who's directing ? And who would you say will be the main villian against wonder woman ?

Sobko wrote: »

Did a search and cannot find a thread for her stand alone movie. Well the movie now has its director Michelle MacLaren better known for her work on Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead and Breaking Bad.

From OP

JP Liz V1

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

She is

thought as much, just wondered if I missed something given the way that people were talking

wonderboy76

Marvel's Universe seemsIt’s a good point about Thor; I guess it seems a harder sell as they’re going to be throwing it all into one movie without the build up of a solo film that Thor had. Though in that respect, maybe Marvel has done the groundwork for DC and paved the way for audiences to buy into this.

The Greek gods on screen could be interesting, as long as they move them on a bit from the Clash of the Titans ones sat around in a Roman baths in togas

Zubeneschamali

wonderboy76 wrote: »

The Greek gods on screen could be interesting, as long as they move them on a bit from the Clash of the Titans ones sat around in a Roman baths in togas

What? How can they top "Release the Kraken!"??

wonderboy76

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

What? How can they top "Release the Kraken!"??

Fair point, well made.

wonderboy76

Filming to begin this autumn, it's being reported. I'm still (sadly) expecting something to go hidesouly wrong and WB to pull the plug. Perhaps reacting to her appearance in BvS if the reaction is negative.

donfers

I'm not watching this unless studio executives make a last minute decision to reboot the whole franchise and cast a male actor in the role of wonder woman - someone like the rock

Sobko

Well MacLaren is out and Jenkins is in.

JP Liz V1

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/wonder-woman-chris-pine-steve-trevor-1201472335/


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