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Mini Mac Specs for Uploading Apps
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28-11-2014 8:58pm#1
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EIREHotspur wrote: »Android ...You can upload an app within a few hours and have a working version there.....Apple take 7-10 Days.
Apple app store apps have to meet certain minimum standards, Android apps don't. Generally results in better apps on the Apple app store.EIREHotspur wrote: »Android Updates take around the same time....Apple again has a waiting time...
Again, checking minimum standards with apple apps. Pain for developers, arguably better for end-users.EIREHotspur wrote: »Android...You can send Notifications with Adverts (which users are free to choose through Topics or opt out of altogether as is the right with Notifications on any App)....Apple banned that....I mean what good are Notifications to a Business who SELL.....DOH....."I wonder what we can get value for money from our 1k App....and use our Notifications for to grow our Business.....No wait that is illegal......Let's send out TV Schedule Alerts so.....".
How I would love adverts to popup on my mobile phone randomly (said nobody ever). Notifications can notify users including special promotions etc if that's what you really think your customers want.EIREHotspur wrote: »Android you can almost upload using an 8 year old PC with a working browser.....and again with Apple....you have this absolute horsecr*p.
Not difficult or particularly expensive although it does require a minimum level of investment and learning on the part of developers. If your app isn't worth a €500 investment and a bit of learning, I'd argue it's probably not worth publishing.EIREHotspur wrote: »I'd love to ask Tim Curry at a News Conference why Apple has to be the biggest pain in the arse to develop anything for.....
I've no idea what an English actor would be able to tell you about the Apple developer program. If you do get to ask him, be sure to let us know what he tells you.
From your other thread I think it would be fair to say you're trying to run before you can walk on a multitude of levels. Trying to develop an app with the barest of programming knowledge, trying to develop a fairly complex (push notifications) app with only a very rudimentary/non-existent understanding of app<->back-end communications. Trying to publish an app with no experience of publishing apps, trying to publish an app without the required software/services/equipment.
To borrow the old 'building a house' analogy again, you're trying to build a small hotel with no experience of building/planning/architecture and you're determined to start construction with the chimney pots and work your way down while only using a wooden spoon and small mixing bowl as tools. It's going to be a frustrating experience.
None of that is said to try and put you off. Quite the opposite, I hope you keep at it. You may find it less frustrating to rethink the approach though.0 -
You think Apple does this for "Quality" or because they want to be an elitist organisation??
You are making assumptions based on my lack of knowledge with Coding PHP.....where did I say I didn't know anything about doing Apps????
I do Business Apps, School Apps and Sports Apps....(and also websites....shoot/edit videos....360 Panoramic Tours....Photoshop repair)....like I said in my other post and explained..I have spent a fortune on software over the years....extensions to get me where I want to go...
The analogy about building a Small Hotel is nonsense though....if I had the money to build a Small Hotel I would hire a Builder....have my local Councilor help with the planning and hire my nephew the Architect to do design the plans for free??
I am not talking about letting Businesses Spam people.
In fact I tell them to think about how they would like random Notifications like "We are open thursday" appearing every other day.
I build them as a "Topic" which people if they are a Hair Salon customer...can opt in or out of to avil of Special offers.
Graham...Have you ever try pitching an App to Business?
I have....Adverts pay for Business Apps ....while I am asking Tim Curry (The Apple Chief Bottle Washer)....you try asking them to invest in an App without advertising and tell me how you get on. 0 -
QualityEIREHotspur wrote: »You think Apple does this for "Quality" or because they want to be an elitist organisation??EIREHotspur wrote: »I do Business Apps, School Apps and Sports Apps....(and also websites....shoot/edit videos....360 Panoramic Tours....Photoshop repair)....like I said in my other post and explained..I have spent a fortune on software over the years....extensions to get me where I want to go...
That's impressive, that many specialisations would normally only be found in a fairly substantial sized agency.
I'm not sure what you mean by extensions though?
Yes and none have them have ever involved adverts but I suspect we're addressing two different target markets.EIREHotspur wrote: »Graham...Have you ever try pitching an App to Business?
I have....Adverts pay for Business Apps
Amusingly, Tim Curry played King Arthur in Monty Python's Spamalot on Broadway and the West End. That would probably make him more suited Google Marketplace than AppleEIREHotspur wrote: »while I am asking Tim Curry (The Apple Chief Bottle Washer) 0 -
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Elitist....less than 10% of the desktop market gave them that mindset...
Sort of like My Dad the Carpenter and My Old Woodwork Teacher....my dad learned the hard way with a hammer and a saw......woodwork teacher had all of the best machinery....they both done good work.....I never learned anything the conventional way.....jump into the middle and try to problem solve.....but then you could tell that with the other thread.That's impressive, that many specialisations would normally only be found in a fairly substantial sized agency.
Point being with the analogy is it doesn't matter with what or how you do a job....just do what it takes to get it done well.
Extensions are add ons that add functionality....If you were doing a Wordpress Shopping website for someone and they needed a way to put up timed promotions with a countdown for the sale price....there is an extension you could buy to add that feature...I'm not sure what you mean by extensions though?
Well all of the ones I deal with would say "What is in this for me"...Yes and none have them have ever involved adverts but I suspect we're addressing two different target markets.
Coming soon in the next year I'd say is the next Big thing in Apps....Notification Cards...
Tim was in Robin Hood: Men in Tights....The Chinese will seriously put a dent in Apple when they get going......Amusingly, Tim Curry played King Arthur in Monty Python's Spamalot on Broadway and the West End. That would probably make him more suited Google Marketplace than Apple 0 -
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I'm not sure I'd classify the sale of 74 million iOS devices in 2014 Q4 as elitist.EIREHotspur wrote: »Elitist....less than 10% of the desktop market gave them that mindset...
Whatever method of learning works for you, go with it. I was suggesting you might find more traditional routes less frustrating.EIREHotspur wrote: »Sort of like My Dad the Carpenter and My Old Woodwork Teacher....my dad learned the hard way with a hammer and a saw......woodwork teacher had all of the best machinery....they both done good work.....I never learned anything the conventional way.....jump into the middle and try to problem solve.....but then you could tell that with the other thread.
Point being with the analogy is it doesn't matter with what or how you do a job....just do what it takes to get it done well.EIREHotspur wrote: »Extensions are add ons that add functionality....If you were doing a Wordpress Shopping website for someone and they needed a way to put up timed promotions with a countdown for the sale price....there is an extension you could buy to add that feature...
Ahh ok, for a lot of SME's WordPress can be a sensible back-end for mobile apps. I've played with a couple of the App generators (App Presser being one) that plugin to those and you can get respectable enough results for a relatively tiny budget. The cost being the loss of flexibility for using a generator and usually for restricting the App capabilities to HTML/extension capabilities.
I don't know many businesses these days that would go to the expense of an app without being able to answer either 'what's in it for me' or 'what's in it for my customers'.EIREHotspur wrote: »Well all of the ones I deal with would say "What is in this for me"...EIREHotspur wrote: »Coming soon in the next year I'd say is the next Big thing in Apps....Notification Cards...
I agree and as much as you'll hate it I expect cards to be driven in a large part by the introduction of a decent smart watch sometime during Q2
Other big thing - proximity. iBeacons, Google Physical web and proximity payments.
I try to avoid films where men wear tights but I'll take your word for it :pac:EIREHotspur wrote: »Tim was in Robin Hood: Men in Tights
The rate the Chinese are buying iPhones is certainly likely to put a dent in the iPhone suppliesEIREHotspur wrote: »The Chinese will seriously put a dent in Apple when they get going......
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EIREHotspur wrote: »Wow....Who said I was leaving it behind????
You might want to polish up the iOS/Apple sales pitch 0 -
Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness View Post
In this day and age, I think it's silly to leave one of these platforms behind or even digging your heels in and complaining how one of them does things. They both have a huge install base, both are going to be around a long time and both have their merits and weaknesses.
Yes agreed but he is making assumptions.....where did I say I wasn't doing IOS Apps?You might want to polish up the iOS/Apple sales pitch
Well part of it is "Your Android App will be ready in two weeks and your IOS App will be ready two weeks later"....cue puzzled look...0 -
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