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Do you tip taxi drivers in Ireland?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭Arbiter of Good Taste


    Billy86 wrote: »
    To be honest, I find 90% of taxi drivers will round down without thinking if it 20c or less over a round number. I'm far from one to hammer on about "everything is better in Ireland" but taxi drivers are typically a lot quicker with change (and more willing to round down) over here than most other countries I've been to. If you find rummaging for change funny here, you'd be in stitches in Sydney, where I once sat in the back of a taxi for over 4 minutes waiting for him to get the change out - and it was $18! This was pretty much standard over there.

    Anyway, if I've got on well with the taxi driver I'll round up, but I live close to a rank and used to work in a local petrol station to I know some of them to see type thing - but to each their own, really.

    Slightly OT, but my experience with taxi drivers in Sydney is that most of them were incompetent


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Slightly OT, but my experience with taxi drivers in Sydney is that most of them were incompetent

    That too - thankfully I lived in Kingsford so there was no bullsh*tting with directions on the way home: "up William Street to the Coca Cola sign, take a right and literally just go straight for about 10-15 minutes." I wouldn't tell them it was just straight until that turn was taken though, because then they'd try to mess about getting to the Coke sign.

    Things like easy going taxi drivers and good quality butchers (and decent beer that doesn't cost an arm and a leg) you really notice you were missing when you get back! :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭jezzer


    Following on from a discussion on another thread - do you tip taxi drivers in Ireland?

    I don't and neither do most people I know but apparently a lot of other folk do.

    In Ireland the only place I generally tip is in a restaurant.
    I'd hate it if Ireland became like the states where you're expected to tip everyone from barbers to delivery men and so on. Whatever about throwing someone a few quid for providing service above and beyond the usual but I hate the idea of an institutionalized system of tipping where it essentially becomes socially compulsory.


    Damn right i dont tip the robbing shower of whinging b*stards, when i get in a taxi and the trip is not over ten miles long they do be moaning about losing their place in the que and how they work so hard bla bla bla, a more hateful shower you couldnt meet, of course they are not all like that but the majority of them are some shower, also as you mention, the tipping situation in the US, its a disgrace, the customer is expected to pay the staff wages, if a guy opens a door for you he expects a tip, everybody is just being nice so they can shake you down, horrible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭Arbiter of Good Taste


    I spend quite a bit of time in London and I'm always struck about how genuinely grateful taxi drivers there generally are when you tip. I had one only today say God bless you when I gave him a £1.40 tip. A lot of the time in Dublin I would barely get a thank you. It's as if a tip is expected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Packrat


    I don't like taxi drivers because as a bus driver, the shyte they pull on the roads every day which is dangerous in the extreme annoys the hell out of me.

    However, I always tip a couple of euro, - it's a sh1t job, and frankly, I think the people here saying they NEVER tip anyone apart from in restaurants are the worst form of life.

    So you tip in restaurants because otherwise your friends would see how truly mean you are, but won't tip another person working an equally if not lower paid job simply because you can get away with it without being seen by your mates/spouse?

    'Scummy' is the term I'd apply to that behaviour.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Lau2976


    The only tip I give to taxi drivers is the rounding up. Unless they've been exceptional, like I don't know my way around or they are generally very helpful. They provide a service, I pay in full for that service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭letsgetloud


    OT but csn someone tell me is 25 euro fare normal for an 11 km trip ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,230 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    OT but csn someone tell me is 25 euro fare normal for an 11 km trip ?

    I took many a taxi ride from City Centre to Blanchardstown. Which is 10km and 21 euro to 23 euro was the average. So yeah it is the norm.


    As for tipping taxi drivers myself? I just round it off. Used to tip an extra euro but I just think it's foolish now. Like, lets be honest because a good percentage of fares dont get declared. Hardly anyone asks for a receipt so taxi drivers can put any ol' (reasonably sounding) income down.
    So with that in mind I already paid the fare, your diesel is covered, you've earned your few quid, the service has been provided and paid for... So why should I give you more?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭jezzer


    In fairness some taxi drivers are sound and will round the fare down if its say 23 euro they might round it to 20 but they are mainly down the country, in dublin they rip you off and then expect a tip, and did you ever notice them rooting for change and make it look as much of a hassle as possible so you might say ah go on hold on to it, they give out about everyone when your in the car with them and if your trip is not over 10k they complain about losing their place in the que, then they fight with each other and basically hate everyone, i know its not a very nice job but they must be making money or they would not be doing it and they all can keep decent cars on the road, i'd say between a friday and saturday night they would make a good weeks wage


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭Duck Soup


    I'll round it up if they're pleasant and they've not taken the scenic route. Or tried the 2 minutes looking for change scam.

    The thing is, since the recession, scenic routes have proliferated. In the Celtic Tiger days (when you'd hail a cab just to go down the shops) it was a positive rarity that a cab driver would take you the long way round. Some of the attempts at stretching the fares since the recession hit have been hilarious including - for example - going from Merrion Square into Ballsbridge to get onto Baggot Street. Fcuk me.

    And it's not the furry nationals or the out-of-towners. Invariably it's the Dublin born-and-bred types, who know every back street and trick in the book to bump up the final fare. Ultimately, it's self-defeating, I'll only take a cab if absolutely necessary now and give them directions if they're wandering. It's sad. Everyone has it tough. Not everyone tries to take the pish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,085 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Duck Soup wrote: »
    I'll round it up if they're pleasant and they've not taken the scenic route. Or tried the 2 minutes looking for change scam.

    The thing is, since the recession, scenic routes have proliferated. In the Celtic Tiger days (when you'd hail a cab just to go down the shops) it was a positive rarity that a cab driver would take you the long way round. Some of the attempts at stretching the fares since the recession hit have been hilarious including - for example - going from Merrion Square into Ballsbridge to get onto Baggot Street. Fcuk me.

    And it's not the furry nationals or the out-of-towners. Invariably it's the Dublin born-and-bred types, who know every back street and trick in the book to bump up the final fare. Ultimately, it's self-defeating, I'll only take a cab if absolutely necessary now and give them directions if they're wandering. It's sad. Everyone has it tough. Not everyone tries to take the pish.

    Why would you take a cab from Merrion square to Baggot st?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭Gannicus


    Had one Sunday night he was a right racist tosser.

    He said and I quote "Black drivers should only take black fares". he also stated how they were entitled to free water etc. (a completely unfounded and untrue statement) when the charges come in. I told him just to be quiet and drive me home. This wasn't even half way into my journey. The fare came to €16.80 and I gave him a twenty. He alleged he hadn't got enough change after rummaging around for a couple minutes. So I said give me a fiver and I run in and get you the €1.80. I went in got my jar of change and gave him the €1.80 in 1 & 2 cent coins. He was none too pleased. He refused to take it so I refused to go get him larger denominations.

    There was no tip for him either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭Duck Soup


    Why would you take a cab from Merrion square to Baggot st?

    Usually because I've got about 3 minutes to get to the bank. I make it clear as I get in - "Sorry this is a real short one, but I'm in a hurry" - that they are not going to retire on the upcoming fare.

    And away we go. From Merrion Square, down Lower Mount Street. Over the canal bridge. Into Northumberland Road. Down to the Ballsbridge Hotel. Right at the coffee kiosk, up Pembroke Road. And onto Baggot Street.

    If they don't want the fare, don't take it. But don't liberties [probably another stop on the route to Baggot Street] instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,085 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Duck Soup wrote: »
    Usually because I've got about 3 minutes to get to the bank. I make it clear as I get in - "Sorry this is a real short one, but I'm in a hurry" - that they are not going to retire on the upcoming fare.

    And away we go. From Merrion Square, down Lower Mount Street. Over the canal bridge. Into Northumberland Road. Down to the Ballsbridge Hotel. Right at the coffee kiosk, up Pembroke Road. And onto Baggot Street.

    If they don't want the fare, don't take it. But don't liberties [probably another stop on the route to Baggot Street] instead.

    jaysus that's not on, I hope you told him as much when he started taking you on the little tour. I haven't found drivers too bad for that. The big one for me us where on a Friday or Saturday they bring you onto Camden st instead of literally any other route. Then sit there while the meter rattles away and you sit in grid lock with all the other taxis. I always specify to them not to go up there. To be fair most of the drivers are honest and will often suggest it themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,860 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Duck Soup wrote: »
    Usually because I've got about 3 minutes to get to the bank. I make it clear as I get in - "Sorry this is a real short one, but I'm in a hurry" - that they are not going to retire on the upcoming fare.

    And away we go. From Merrion Square, down Lower Mount Street. Over the canal bridge. Into Northumberland Road. Down to the Ballsbridge Hotel. Right at the coffee kiosk, up Pembroke Road. And onto Baggot Street.

    If they don't want the fare, don't take it. But don't liberties [probably another stop on the route to Baggot Street] instead.

    I'd well believe this. An English friend of mine (complete with Sarrf Lahdan accent) used to get the scenic route home all the time - especially if he had his American girlfriend with him. He'd just sit back and enjoy the ride. Once he got home he'd throw them a tenner and tell them that's the usual fare and they were "'avin a laugh". If they didn't like it he pointed them to the Garda Station around the corner.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Not if they add the fee for the bags and don't load the bags, that's for sure.

    Regardless, I rarely tip them - too many have tried to kill me over the years on my bike :D

    Plus taxi fares in Dublin are expensive enough already, and they make enough from ripping off the tourists and drunk people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Only if it's exceptional service. Not paying someone extra for doing a job I'm already paying him for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 Drummer1967


    I'm a Taxi driver licensed for D, WW, WX. apart from hello & where are u going, I don't speak.
    I don't blame people for disliking Taxi drivers because the caliber of drivers is a disgrace.
    You just need to take a look at the rank outside the Gresham the filthy mouths and the way most of them dress and conduct themselves would put anyone off. There are hundreds of illegal drivers floating around Dublin city every weekend.They don't have a clue where they are going but are quite prepaired to charge the public to direct them. If you get into a nice clean car and the driver is polite and dressed neatly and knows where he is going, round up to the nearest euro.I never expect a cent tip from anyone, and I always offer the change before it's mentioned.If the fare is say 8:54/65 I always leave it at 8 most people appreciate this and give 9/10 anyway.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Amaris Uninterested Shortcake


    I have on occasion where we've had really nice chats and I'm happy to tip for that
    Generally though I don't

    I think a few have tried to pull the rooting around for change thing on me though I didn't quite cop it at the time - I'm quite happy to sit there all day waiting for it, it's my change
    One guy did take the piss rooting around in 3 difference places for it though. lol


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭jezzer


    I'm a Taxi driver licensed for D, WW, WX. apart from hello & where are u going, I don't speak.
    I don't blame people for disliking Taxi drivers because the caliber of drivers is a disgrace.
    You just need to take a look at the rank outside the Gresham the filthy mouths and the way most of them dress and conduct themselves would put anyone off. There are hundreds of illegal drivers floating around Dublin city every weekend.They don't have a clue where they are going but are quite prepaired to charge the public to direct them. If you get into a nice clean car and the driver is polite and dressed neatly and knows where he is going, round up to the nearest euro.I never expect a cent tip from anyone, and I always offer the change before it's mentioned.If the fare is say 8:54/65 I always leave it at 8 most people appreciate this and give 9/10 anyway.

    I fully agree with you, if a taxi driver is smartly dressed and has a clean car and doesnt take the p*ss then i certainly would have no issue in tipping but as you mention the absolute scum that drive some of the taxis is disgusting, they stand outside the cars smoking fags and wear tracksuit bottoms hanging off them, a lot of the time when you get into the car there is an overwhelming smell of fart and they try and pass it off by saying the previous passenger was drunk, and i do not blame taxi drivers for being racist, i'm no fan of taxi drivers but it is unacceptable that they have all the black and foreign drivers coming in and not having a clue where they are going, imagine in any other job where people can come in willy nilly and do what you are doing for a living. i've been in taxis where the driver was black and he looks nothing like the picture on the dash, and of course if you mention it (like i did one time) your a racist, a lot of them drive multiple taxis on the one licence, another time i was in a taxi with a black driver and he just didnt know where he was going after a while i got fed up and asked him to let me out and he tried to charge me and i do not blame women for not wanting to get into a taxi with a black driver, i've seen on ranks where women dont want to get in with them and the drivers roar out the window at them "get into my taxi now" that kind of behaviour is not on. Of course not all black drivers are like that. Unfortunately well turned out decent professional drivers seem to be a thing of the past.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    I love the way taxi drivers try to make out that drivers with poor hygiene, sub-standard vehicles, a penchant for ripping punter off are a recent phenomenon!

    It's like we're expected to believe that before all the 'furriners' arrived Irish drivers never took the pi$$, had scrupulous personal grooming and provided a first rate public service!! :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭Mr_Muffin


    Black taxi drivers can be pretty clueless from my experience so i just try to avoid them.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Amaris Uninterested Shortcake


    they've all been lovely and knew their stuff IME
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭chrissb8


    I don't mind tipping them if they're quiet and quick. One thing though is when they take the money and don't give the change back. Annoys me to no end. Assuming it's their tip. No friend that is MY money and don't assume you can do with it what you please. I gladly wait in those situations for my money. Got in a debate with a couple of friends who are waiters/waitresses before about tipping. They just expect it and think it rude not to get tipped even when they're on a wage. Definitely a sense of entitlement and social pressure for tipping already in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭Gannicus


    I have been to the states a few times and the cabs are clean the drivers are lovely and they help with the bags when you're getting in and out of the cab. I have made exceptions to my rule have tipped those lads. The same when I was in Madrid this year.


  • Posts: 5,285 [Deleted User]


    I have started noticing people tipping in Barbers for a hair cut :eek:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭jezzer


    again with the barbers, its their job and they charge more than enough for it and i'm sure if the only work there they get paid accordingly, why tip them? do you tip the guy who changes your flat tyre? do you tip the bus driver? do you tip the teller in the bank?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭jezzer


    This is the typical Dublin Taxi Driver

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xX3JIpUQ4k


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Usually just round up to the nearest euro for local journeys. Occasionally if at home if on a night out, the taxi can cost €15/16, that cast i might give them an extra 2.

    One such occasion though the driver missed two possible turns for my house, a local journey, and fair enough he switched off the meter after i pointed this out and questioned which way he was going. He let him self down though when he did get me home, by asking for €2 more than it usally cost. I only paid what it usually roughly cost and waited on the change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,068 ✭✭✭LoonyLovegood


    My da was a taxi driver for years, I'll always round up to the nearest euro. I've seen how difficult it is surviving on a taxi driver's wage, so I'll do what I can to give them a hand.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭jezzer


    CTYIgirl wrote: »
    My da was a taxi driver for years, I'll always round up to the nearest euro. I've seen how difficult it is surviving on a taxi driver's wage, so I'll do what I can to give them a hand.

    Surely a fri/sat night brings in a weeks wage?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Just seen the comment re drivers not knowing the way to an address, surely if you want to taxi somewhere like Dublin, or any of Ireland so called cities, surely you have to pass some kind of test. Not talking about on the scale of The Knowledge in London, but at least show you have some idea.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭jezzer


    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    Just seen the comment re drivers not knowing the way to an address, surely if you want to taxi somewhere like Dublin, or any of Ireland so called cities, surely you have to pass some kind of test. Not talking about on the scale of The Knowledge in London, but at least show you have some idea.

    the problem is, one guy does the test then brings over all his mates and they all use the same ID, if you say they look different to the pic on the dash your racist


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    yeh but only if there's change left over. Say I give him a 20 for 18 euro fair, I'll just say keep the change or whatever


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    Taxis are an absolute fcuking rip off. I try to avoid needing them as much as i can nevermind tip them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭jezzer


    Taxis are an absolute fcuking rip off. I try to avoid needing them as much as i can nevermind tip them.


    Say a ten euro trip, it would have cost the taxi man no more than 2 euro, thats some profit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Sq001


    No don't tip. Why tip them? For doin they're job? I don't get tips for my job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90,185 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    No as they over charge as it is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    I tip quite generously if the taxi driver takes me the right way. If they do what most drivers in Dublin do when I get in and ask for where I want to get to in my English Home Counties accent and take me in completely the wrong direction (what I like to call the 800 Years Tax) then they're lucky to get the fare let along extra on top.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Beefy78 wrote: »
    I tip quite generously if the taxi driver takes me the right way. If they do what most drivers in Dublin do when I get in and ask for where I want to get to in my English Home Counties accent and take me in completely the wrong direction (what I like to call the 800 Years Tax) then they're lucky to get the fare let along extra on top.

    A few years ago while working abroad I had to come to Dublin on a business trip.

    Four of us arrived piled into a taxi at the airport to go to a city centre hotel. The other three were chatting away in their English accents. When we got to the hotel the driver - chirpy, Dublin accent - says the fare will be IR£20 each!!! (pre-Euro)

    I told the lads I'd get it and yer man went a bit pale when heard my accent - I threw him 20 quid and told him I'd meet him in the Carriage Office if he wanted to discuss the rest!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 571 ✭✭✭tmh106


    jezzer wrote: »
    again with the barbers, its their job and they charge more than enough for it and i'm sure if the only work there they get paid accordingly, why tip them? do you tip the guy who changes your flat tyre? do you tip the bus driver? do you tip the teller in the bank?

    I've always tipped barber (usually €2), especially when it's not the owner who cuts my hair. I don't know how well they get paid, but I doubt it's anything too exorbitant, and I regard the tip as my way of saying thanks to the person who cut my hair (as opposed to the business, which gets the fee). Plus I'm lucky enough to be able to tip at this level and not miss the money. I've never tipped a bank teller, but all of the others I've tipped on occasion where they provided service which I considered over and beyond the call of duty.
    Of course, in all of the above, barber included, I only tip if the service is up to scratch.

    Jim


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭jezzer


    tmh106 wrote: »
    I've always tipped barber (usually €2), especially when it's not the owner who cuts my hair. I don't know how well they get paid, but I doubt it's anything too exorbitant, and I regard the tip as my way of saying thanks to the person who cut my hair (as opposed to the business, which gets the fee). Plus I'm lucky enough to be able to tip at this level and not miss the money. I've never tipped a bank teller, but all of the others I've tipped on occasion where they provided service which I considered over and beyond the call of duty.
    Of course, in all of the above, barber included, I only tip if the service is up to scratch.

    Jim

    Thats fair enough if you tip across the board


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    shanec1928 wrote: »
    Which works out at 2 or 3% after hails take their cut for the fare.
    &? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    I'll tip if they don't take the piss on taking longer routes for an extra few euro. That's the only reason I wouldn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Cathy.C


    I round up to the next Euro if under €10 and add an extra €1 if between €10 and €20.. and so on and so forth.

    Unless the driver has gone a needlessly scenic route or generally been a pain in the ass for some other reason, of which there are many.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    If they're nice enough and the taxi itself is clean then I've no bother giving them extra.

    Sometimes, say from my house to the town is usually €6 or €7 so I'd give €10 to save the hassle of waiting for change.

    But if they deliberately go the wrong way then they won't get a cent extra!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    I already answered this.
    __

    I would also be willing to share taxis, if this was something they offered themselves. (ie half price if willing to share journey etc. not something I had to organise myself.)
    In this case they could charge 5€ x 2, for the 2km to end up with their 10 over the same distance.

    Most don't offer something like this. They're not interested in making the rates more affordable.

    Hmmm typical AH not quite truthful post....

    The fare for a 2km trip between 8.00pm and 8.00 am (the most expensive time ) would be €4.45 (initial charge including 1st 1 Km plus €1.35 for the remaining 1 km Total €5.80

    The fare for two people would be €6.80 so I think you'd best remeasure the distance you're traveling or use a different taxi


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    shanec1928 wrote: »
    Which works out at 2 or 3% after hails take their cut for the fare.

    Less than that Hailo are 12% commission at the moment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Jawgap wrote: »
    Not if they add the fee for the bags and don't load the bags, that's for sure.

    Regardless, I rarely tip them - too many have tried to kill me over the years on my bike :D

    Plus taxi fares in Dublin are expensive enough already, and they make enough from ripping off the tourists and drunk people.

    There's no fee for bags, hasn't been one since 2006 or so, you don't get out that often in a taxi by the sound of it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    I'd rarely do it and even then it's just for my own convenience to not wait for 50 cent change. I don't tip in restaurants either unless I got exceptional service. Tipping is only a thing in American restaurants because of their minimum wage and waitresses needing tips to actually get by, in Ireland we have a set minimum wage which removes that issue.


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